Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox With chrome I can say the issues are ones I've got around. Bookmarks can be easily managed if you use the applications menu on each of them and use "edit" to move to folder rather than trying to mess too much with  silly bookmarks manager, and a lot of

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : JaceK via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I was going to say Seamonkey, 2.49 works fine here.Also Mac? No, I don't think so.I don't know why everyone's saying FF isn't accessible, I'm posting from it right now, it't certainly is. Plus NVDA devs are working with Mozilla to figure out what to do. Also maybe it's

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox hi,For me, the real beauty of windows is increased choice. I wouldn't trade my windows machines, for a place in apple's overpriced walled garden. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352702#p352702

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox [[wow]]. All this makes me so relieved to be a mostly full Tim Mac user. On Windows, I hate having to think about which browser I want to deal with at a certain time. Firefox with its accessibility issues and slowness, Edge with its unsteady accessibility, or Chrome

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : st . mc via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox hiI've heard a lot about the new firefox having problems with screen readers, but when I tried v58.0 with nvda 2017.3 It was much better than what was being said about it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352659#p352659

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : JaceK via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox at, 2.49 just works outta the box on Windows/Linux here and is a great little browser. nSeamonkey, it just works, and is a less system inensive version of FF.I never got any warnings about FF and at least on Linux/Solus here it just works out of the box for me

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Hmm, haven't heard of WaterFox. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352581#p352581 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Well I use waterfox which is basically firefox 56 at least till june.Then it will become something else and we will have to see what that will be.Due to mozilla''s stance on accessibility in particular that accessibility as it is now is not secure which it probably

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Hrvoje via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I'm using Chrome actively just because of speed, but I like Firefox's interface more. Currently on my machine is Firefox 59 Beta with NVDA Next snapshot. There are still problems where browse mode freezes or fails to load on large pages with lots of content, and I've

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : G-Rad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Yeah I jumped back to Chrome today to play with it and so far I'm much happer with it right now.  I  am basically saying I don't have a true default browser, but for the most part I have been known to use Chrome, but lately I"m up in the air.  It seems like Fi

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox hi,One thing you guys who use IE forget is that IE is an obsolete piece of software. It is no longer being developed, and is in the extended support phase, for all versions. So it isn't the manufacturer provided browser. The manufacturer provided browser for windows

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Just like everyone else does, when I was a Windows user, my primary browser is IE, even sometimes it's slow or crash in some websites, but IE can do better thing with flash contents. I only switch to Chrome whenever I visited some sites that IE doesn't want to work

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Just like everyone else does, when I was a Windows Uer, my primary browser is IE, even sometimes it's slow or crash in some websites, but IE can do better thing with flash contents. I only switch to Chrome whenever I visited some sites that IE doesn't want to work

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : gamesmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox BlindJedi wrote:Firefox is garbage. IE is life when it comes to accessibility at least. For speed though chrome is the way to go. I have firefox but can't use it for what ever reason, I open it and get some message about accessibility settings not working then when i

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : AlirezaNosrati via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox firefox is still accessible, you will have to disable something i do not remember in about:config. i disabled it and i'm now posting this with firefox 58 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352479#p352479

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I find that I somewhat disagree with 28.  having something to fall back on is always bad for me in particular, because then I get into the habit of falling back on it rather than pressing forward with what I'm supposed to.  That having been said, my greatest problem

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Well, nobody in here said somebody is dumb just because they use old software. after all, we all will choose which way will we use our computers. I am just saying that as web standards update and progress, you will have more and more issues and it is always better

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox While I will agree with ie's inherent accessibility, the problem I was finding last year was that too many websites would hang or crash or similar, which got to be a right pain. This especially happened with a lot of games such as clicker idle games like space company

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox While I will agree with ie's access, the problem I was finding last year was that too many websites would hang or crash or similar. This especially happened with a lot of games such as clicker idle games like space company. Since I'm sort of supposed to be playing

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ammericandad2005 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I actually disabled automatic updates on firefox just as firefox57 was being released under order of a combination of Firefox staff and audiogames.net forum members. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352445#p352445

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I use IE too. The bottom line is, that it works, has great accessibility, and I've never noticed any speed difference with firefox. Some pages do seem to hang with IE that don't with FF, an if I were visiting these sites daily, FF would probably become my default

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I use IE too. The bottom line is, that it works, has great accessibility, and I've never noticed any speed difference with firefox. There's a definite speed increase with chrome, but there's also one or two accessibility issues I can't recall that sent me back to IE

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I use IE too. The bottom line is, that it works, has great accessibility, and I've never noticed any speed difference with firefox. There's a definite speed increase with chrome, but there's also one or two accessibility issues I can't recall that sent me back to IE

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Except,  jaws and NVDA no matter how much you like or hate one of them are up to date and are in active development, unlike IE which will become opsolete pretty soon and then it will no longer be a choice unless you are fine with not having access to modern websites

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Orko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox @Nizda07What have you got against people who choose to use and are happy with Internet Explorer? It's a choice, just as JAWS and NVDA are choices, or PC and Macintosh's are choices. There's nothing wrong with any of them. Be thankful you have the option to choose

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Oh god those IE guys, it is not any better than people using XP these days. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352425#p352425 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : G-Rad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I'm on Firefox 58.0.2 and latest version of NVDA on WIndows 10 and I'm not seeing these problems?  I jumped ship from Google Chrome, which I loved, to firefox last month after trying to browse Sweetwater and my sweetwater card website and it wasn't working properly

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Orko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I don't use Firefox or Chrome because I like the way Internet Explorer integrates into Windows. The sad thing is that both Firefox and Chrome could have taken advantage of many of the integration possibilities, but chose not to. Their loss.Besides, for accessibility

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Orko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I don't use Firefox or Chrome because I like the way Internet Explorer integrates into Windows. The sad thing is that both Firefox and Chrome could have taken advantage of many of the integration possibilities, but chose not to. Their loss. URL: http

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : BlindJedi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Firefox is garbage. IE is life when it comes to accessibility at least. For speed though chrome is the way to go. I have firefox but can't use it for what ever reason, I open it and get some message about accessibility settings not working then when i try and use

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox hi,And guys, once the bugs in firefox are ironed out for accessibility, mozilla claims that  it is almost double the speed of firefox of 6 months ago. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352394#p352394

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I only use Chrome on my iPhone and my android devices. Chrome on the Mac is sucks. It uses much CPU and battery a lot. At least on my machine. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352361#p352361

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Orko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I recall having to do something like what Enes suggests in #9 with Thunderbird when an update caused JAWS to stop being able to read the message list. It worked great. I had forgotten that or I'd have suggested it myself.Sorry about getting the version number wrong, I

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox @LordLundin,Sadly, this is one of the downsides to a system that tolerates or claims to tolerate everything save what people deem intolerant.  it's an absolute negation, a self defeating argument that goes a little something like this:Person A says, "I tol

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Lol Dark!4chan isn't deep web! I don't think Liveleak is either. Just wanting to put that out there.I watched the school shooting in Florida on there today, sorry to anyone who might've been affected.On another note I wish I could boycott Google all in all but ... ugg

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I've heard of a few deep web things like 4chan and liveleak, but none that really encouraged me to look closer. In terms of gore, having  grown up with two medical parents and an intensive interest in biology, I don't really need to go poking about the net ressesses

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Yeah I was mostly kidding, I visit a site called dreamindemon, and view police activity and war leaks on youtube, as well as all the serious tagged ask reddit threads about (worst thing you've seen) from first responders, hospital staff, shop and lab workers ETC, my

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Just went back to 5.6 and it looks much nicer than 5.7.I had speed issues as it seemed to slow down my whole computer ... I never looked at how much it took up in task manager though. Lol URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352310#p352310

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Yeah I was mostly kidding, I visit a site called dreamindemon, and view police activity and war leaks on youtube, as well as all the serious tagged ask reddit threads about (worst thing you've seen) from first responders, hospital staff, shop and lab workers ETC, my

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox I'm forced to use Jaws because NVDA doesn't work, well it does but hardly ever since I updated this machine about a year ago. I'll get firefox 5.6 though, sounds like the best option.I looked into the ESR but I didn't figure out how to get it ... nor did I bother much

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : braille0109 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox first, I agree with post 9. if you want something that just works, just get firefox 56, and don't update. and it's better than using an ESR, in my opinion. personally, as soon as that came out, 57, that is, I decided to switch over to chrome. since I was a firefox user

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox hi,Solution to firefox. Download 56, and disable updates.Do this until at least 59, or until screen reader advisories go away. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352304#p352304 ___ Audiogames-reflector

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : lukas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Well, Orko, the latest ESR is actually 52, not 56, so I see why some people might be concerned about using that instead of more recent versions if you are not a big enterprise or something.In any case, as soon as I read about the whole accessibility situation

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Orko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox To avoid the current accessibility issues that Firefox is having, have you considered using an ESR edition?When Firefox 57 was released with all of the accessibility problems it introduced, most people recommended switching to the ESR edition of 56 to avoid

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Yeah I was mostly kidding, I visit a site called dreamindemon, and view police activity and war leaks on youtube, as well as all the serious tagged ask reddit threads about (worst thing you've seen) from first responders, hospital staff, shop and lab workers ETC, my

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Yeah I was mostly kidding, I visit a site called dreamindemon, and view police activity and war leaks on youtube my self, for the same reason, fascination coupled with a need to experience what the people going through this shit are going through by proxy, a morbid

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Lol you guys need to educate yourselves @Dark bestgore is a community centered around the more ... ahem ... brutal things in the world. We don't necessarily enjoy the gore, but it makes us thankful, or some of us. It's a bit of a kick to the stomach, you're like damn I

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Again, professional, edgelord.Bestgore and the deepweb are practically prerequisites.Not to mention liveleak, /r/watchpeopledie, 4chan, emo punk rock, cutting sideways for attention (not lengthwise for results) dead baby and anti jokes, and hating preppy kids (which

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox Gore videos? What the heck are gore videos, I hope they aren't what they sound like, especially if your having to use tor to access them . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352280#p352280 ___ Audiogames

Re: Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ogomez92 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bye bye, firefox best gore videos? Tor full time? Wtf dude URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352279#p352279 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Bye bye, firefox

2018-02-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Bye bye, firefox So yesterday or the day before that, I can't exactly remember, firefox updated and was no longer accessible.In desperation I switched back to IE, because I'm not using Chrome over my dead body, it doesn't allow you to view best gore videos.I'm thinking of using Tor full