Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : serkan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure yeah there is same online in new server. also who cares if the main server have more online if they are no feir admins URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334622#p334622 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure can i use mush z to play empire mud? and isn't it better to play on the main server since there are more players on? i like to play games which has many activ players on it URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=33#p33 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : JimmyDub via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure nice. I'll check things out in a bit URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334439#p334439 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure yes. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334432#p334432 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure @40,Have a little more sarcasm, because why not, if you have the time. All the fun starts around post 25, but you'll get a little more out of it if you actually read the whole topic. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334409#p334409 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure @40,Have a little more sarcasm, because why not, if you have the time. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334409#p334409 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : shotgunshell via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure @Post39 That post deserves an A+! Thumbs up for sarcasm! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334113#p334113 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Wait a minute, you can't, like, seriously, you know, seriously expect someone to like, let other people shout it out on public channels on a game about fighting, because bullying! You know? I mean, what if you insulted someone by calling them a coward for not engaging you in battle? No! Seriously! Just take a second to think about it! You might really make them cry for hiding behind an admin's back and stuff! On a fighting game! It'd be like running an all you can eat buffet and, well, telling people they can only have a select few items on the menu if their weight is over a certain limit. I'm sure that's how fairness is done? isn't it? I mean, aren't they passing laws about how much coke and other soft drinks you can have?Sorry... I couldn't resist. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334089#p334089 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Probably because he doesn't want the negative publicity his actions would no doubt cause. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334066#p334066 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure What doesn't make sense to me is why he prohibits discussions like that on public channels. That sounds a bit... rude to me, in a way. This is a game for empires, this is a game of wars where people war verbally, magically and physically all the time. Let them have at it on public channels, I say. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334043#p334043 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Speaking of which, we have an Empire Mud server up with the latest live code changes implemented. I still love this game and I think you will as well. So come and play! The land is unsettled and waiting for all of you to come and fight over it. And I promise we will do our best to be fair and helpful admins. One thing that we will never do is show favoritism to people just because they complain that they are scared to log in. If all of this sounds more palatable to you than what you've been reading about previously, go connect now, atriseofempires.anomalousabode.comport 4000Enjoy, and I hope to see you guys create formidable, powerful empires! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=334016#p334016 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dranelement via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure I also tend to agree with the OP from my viewing of the log. That seems to be not the greatest of ways for an admin to behave...He does, or did when last I checked anyways, keep an updated copy of his source on github. If someone feels they can do a better job and wants to put up a different version, I don't think it would be too difficult. The code is under new GPL? I think. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333939#p333939 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Sounds like this game is more of an ego trip for the admin than a game for players to enjoy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333820#p333820 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure I can't speak on the initial situation, but I will say I have had my own bad experience of the empire mud admins which is one reason I've not been back to the game despite the crafting and such sounding really interesting. this was when I was starting, spent literally two hours wandering the map trying to find a free space for my empire and asked for help, when I received none I asked if there was something I was missing in the rules since it seemed odd that the game had no way of finding space, whereupon the admin gave me a private communication and quite severely told me off for complaining about the game on public channels. not the sort of newbie experience that encourages me to play more of the game. In fairness this was with version 1 of the game which didn't have a newbie island and had a much smaller map with many more players and I doubt I would have the same problem again, however after getting a yelling at for being a new player I wasn't precisely encouraged to continue trying. It also stands out being as I've been a newbie on many an online game (hence why there are so many in the db), but I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I've had that sort of nasty response (usually game admins tend to be very welcoming of new players). In fairness though anyone can have a bad day, actually I do need try empire mud out and give it a proper db page since whatever else it does have extremely good screen reader interaction. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333815#p333815 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Bullying would be the US sending it's batallion of fighters, bombers, destroyers and other naval warfare machines to North Korea and nuking the blazes out of it! Right now! With no warning!lol Ok, seriously, I think post 28 pretty much rosted and tosted any opposition the administrative team and its possy might have had. This is one of those situations where, much like Orko I have to agree with the original poster. If you have a game that clearly details and advertises the idea of conquest it should not by any degree favor one set of players over others, even if they themselves are working on the game as pointed out by post 5. This is clearly a power trip; nothing more, nothing less. A player was wronged by an admin who intervened on behalf of a mud builder and his empire rather than allowing the two sides to settle the matter as it should have been settled, in the game, through its mechanics, by battling it out until one side was vic torious. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333746#p333746 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Ok, I actually did take the time to read the log related to this. Here is my opinion.I have not read the actual rules of the game, but these three lines are concerning to me:Khufu tells you, 'And what if the game admin asks you to leave the empire alone for a while to let things cool down after you were harassing them?'You tell Khufu, 'I did leave them alone.'Khufu tells you, 'You literally declared war on them.'This clearly indicates that Khufu believes that declaring war repeatedly is harassment. If the rules provide no restrictions on war as to how long between engagements must pass before war can be declared again, it seems interesting (as well as logically flawed) to me that an admin can say that declaring war on an empire repeatedly is harassment, or bullying, as is indicated here:Khufu tells you, 'I forced you to end the war and shut off the unilateral war option because it's obviously a more immediate issue than I realized. I told you explicitly that I thought what you were doing is harassment and in violation of the rules.'Again, if the rules do not place any restrictions on war, or do not state that repeatedly declaring war on another empire is harassment, then how can the admin then contend that doing something not laid out in rules is somehow breaking them? If the admin does not like that empires can declare war as much as they please, they can either clearly set time restriction and clear-cut boundaries within the rules, change the code so that those restrictions are put into place, or both. Personally, I see no reason to intervene simply because war has been declared upon another empire, even if it has been done repeatedly, as long as there are no restrictions set forth in the rules, and as long as any restrictions that were, indeed, set forth in the rules were not disobeyed. Any land acquisition that does not occur through purch ase or trade of some kind occurs through war. This is just common sense, and if the admin was familiar with history at all, that fact should not be difficult to understand.As for bullying, I am unable to agree with the admin's definition of the word "bullying, as indicated here:Khufu tells you, 'What you keep telling me is this would have ended peacefully if they had capitulated to your bullying. You literally built on top of their roads and then demanded they give them to you? That's bullying.'Usually, before war is declared, when there is a dispute over land that is most likely going to involve combat, the party attempting to acquire said land will begin to place troops, encroach on the land, etc. This does not rise to the level of "bullying" in my opinion; instead, this seems to be a common evolutionary step in this sort of conflict. Moreover, an offer of settlement was presented to the empire:They could always just appease me by losing those roads. That is honestly the easiest way out for them now. Get rid of the roads in my capital boundaries, and I will not declare war on them again.'The empire chose to refuse that offer, which they have every right to do. However, the other empire has the right to proceed accordingly. When negotiation fails, combat most likely will follow. Again, common sense, and I fail to see how that can be construed as bullying.Bullying in my opinion would be if players were deliberately fighting newbies simply for the pleasure of destroying them, taking advantage of a lack of knowledge of game mechanics, threatening players with actions not permitted by rules, flaming other players, using racial slurs against other players, etc.It is my opinion that if the admin of this game does not wish to allow conflict or combat, then he/she needs to remove it from the code, and the aim of the game needs to be modified and re-ad vertised as something other than PVP. It's that simple. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333741#p333741 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Isn't it interesting that no matter how right or wrong the player is, there will always be somebody that decides that the admins are gods and can do no wrong, and that the player is an idiot and can't do anything right. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333731#p333731 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure I don't have any experience as a game admin, but simple common sense tells me that the admins roll should involve maintenance and removing cheaters and hackers and other problem players, his role should definitely not include interfering with game play that the game's code allows.If the admin doesn't like a certain aspect of the game, like declaring war, and he has the ability, he should then change the game's code to eliminate what he doesn't like, after he announces his intention. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333674#p333674 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : hadi . gsf via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Misguided?No.If they can't handle high end pvp then they should stop advertizing their game as one.I think they just wanted to get rid of KeyIsFull. He probably was hurting their poor playerbase lol URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333652#p333652 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Yeah, it'd be like playing a game called Mortal Kombat and expecting not to die. The general idea here is that empires, by virtue of what they are, can be exceptionally tyranical; look through history to find what we are saying is true. You can argue that there are nice kingdoms and dynasties, but if you're going to make a game, do at least tell the players what your aim in the game actualy is rather than expecting them to simply know, then throwing the book at them because they don't. Yes, as a game owner I suppose you have the right to do that, but that doesn't make it inherently and ethically right, particularly if it appears on the surface you're favoring another group of people, one of them being a team member who's helping you build the thing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333603#p333603 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Victorious via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure I would agree this is bullying if he was warring against some helpless newbie, but Knashteran is the second most powerful empire. Since this game is called Empire Mud, it would be foolish not to expect war and territorial disputes. I wouldn't want to play if admins actively interfered in legitimate and fairly routine disagreements like this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333598#p333598 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : keyIsFull via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure @sorressean, the log contains the tell conversation between mea and Khufu. I did not remove any tells from it, but that is all it is. You also say I "bullied the people of that other empire". If you consider what I did to be bullying, you shouldn't be playing a mud called Empire Mud.@griffindor, if you read the log carefully I did not threaten Khufu. I simply told him that by losing me, he would lose a lot of potential players, and if you read this topic, you will see that that's the truth.Also, to everyone, I am not concerned that the dev is power-hungry. I do consider him to be quite reasonable in most cases, and we have had a lot of good conversations about the game. But he developed a game where the mechanics allowed us to do something. Then he forced us to not do it. He could have not enabled that mechanic until it had been thoroughly fleshed out on a test server. Instead, he turned it on when he admitted that it needed work, and then decided t o stop me from using it in the way it was coded. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333592#p333592 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : grryfindore via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Hi, @keyIsFull,sorry to say,but gotta agree with sorressean here.Whilst pvp is the main thiem of such games,and dominenance over those that are less stronger than you are is most aim at, the admin has the right stance imo which is most likely to make me want to play,rather than yours.There is pvp,and then there is bullying/harressment, which you were clearly upto,and the admin was well within his rights to stop you from doing so.Yes, people including you would not feel so bad if a mechanic was in place that would stop players like you or others from bullying,but such as the admin stated does not exist yet,and in such a case its quite natural that the admin takes care of it.And thank you for the soundpack man,but seriously? threatening the admin that he should fold or follow your way else lose players is a good move, not.Just to make it clear, I dont play the game,but probably will,dont know the admin or anything. just read the log you posted,and writing out my thoughts as I see things,as it were.perhaps after the OP has a chance to cool down he may see things differently.Either way,Thanks for the sp,mate.Grryf URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333585#p333585 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : shotgunshell via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure @Post14 We'll have to agree to disagree I suppose. This game looks like an empire game, and the admin is trying to stop war. He maybe an admin, but as long as this game is called empire mud, he is under no authority to do that and needs to back off a bit. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333582#p333582 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : sorressean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Here's the issue I have with this log. It looks to have been heavily edited... There are certain gaps in the conversation that feel weird to me, the dev asks him to stop the conversation on channels, for example and that's left in there but you don't know any of what he said on channels. You see some random lines that just don't make sense.The OP admits that he had at some point bullied the people of that empire and caused them issues, and a dev stepping in to prevent harassment is not a problem. I've been playing for a while and I find the admins and the main dev himself helpful and have yet to see anything of this power hunger that the OP wants us to see. Basically this stinks of someone throwing a fit because they were asked to do something, the dev says he wants to flesh out the war stuff and makes a request until that is done, and that is somehow a problem. It's also worth note that this game is beta and in pretty constant development; you can follow all kinds of topics on the dev channel. This dev, as far as I can tell is engaged with his game base (having discussions with players on how things should work), for example. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333578#p333578 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : shotgunshell via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure @Post12 Easy now, this topic doesn't seem to be out of bounds. As far as I can tell only 2 people disagree with the post so far, and they're not screaming at the topic creator. If the dog isn't biting, don't fight it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333575#p333575 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure sorressean wrote:If you look at the log of this conversation, it doesn't in any way back up what the OP said. The admin simply asked OP to not bully people, and it seems (and was admitted by OP himself) that there was a past of bullying...That's why I'm curious about their side of the story. There's PVP, and there's bullying. PVP is always hard to balance because you'll always have players who bully and ruin things for everyone. In a game like EmpireMUD, it's even harder to balance if you're supposed to war over territory when negotiation fails. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333566#p333566 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : shotgunshell via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure I'm probably going to get minimal backlash for what I'm about to say, but I'll say it anyways. I believe there are a lot of games that have admins like this, (especially in Muds), because they're so power hungry that they look for any excuse in the book to abuse said powers whenever they feel it's necessary. When I was 12 years old, I used to play a Mud called Valhalla, based on some medieval viking story or something to that extent. Because I was a child, I got on a lot of player's nerves. An admin found out about it and told me that I wasn't old enough to play the game, even though it clearly stated in the newbie section that this was a family oriented game and children would be playing it. I ended up getting banned mainly on that argument. This is just 1 of many examples that are probably out there for admins completely abusing their powers and bending rules to their liking because they feel like it. If an admin is like that, just stop playing , that's what I did. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333562#p333562 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure It's shame,maybe he's not experienced?he should know, this mud won't fun without empire wars URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333551#p333551 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : sorressean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure If you look at the log of this conversation, it doesn't in any way back up what the OP said. The admin simply asked OP to not bully people, and it seems (and was admitted by OP himself) that there was a past of bullying... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333552#p333552 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure I wonder if it would have ended differently if the other empire's leader hadn't been such a cry baby.It is non sense just like this that's the reason I prefer single player games. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333546#p333546 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure
2017-10-15
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Re: Empire Mud: A misguided Admin is the cause of my departure Scratch this one off my radar; I just recently heard about it, too. Shame shame. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=333538#p333538 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
