Re: Explanation from Somethinelse

Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Ios 11 maybe? Don't know what else to tell you unless they're 32bit apps. Those won't work, period. That is, if you've upgraded to ios11. I jumped off the ios train a long time ago, all be it still using it on occasion. Too limiting, and app distribution

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse I never played any of the Papa Sangre games, so it sucks to see them disappear from the appstore. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=330170#p330170 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Ok, but if it is happening in more than 6 aps not only those games? I must think, that something is wrong. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=330100#p330100 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse I really don't think they can! refund everyone. They don't have all the funds to do so, Apple takes 33% remember, and they used a lot of the investment towards, well, the games. As for Apple, they have bigger fish to fry. Trust me. I did the same thing

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Hi,Yes it is problem, you bought the game and you aren't able to get to the game.And why I am still trying to get the app? I payed for it and if they put it away from the store and I wasn't able to download or get to the older phone, where it is working, I

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse I'm confused as to why people are still obsessing over this company. The apps aren't being supported any more. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=330042#p330042 ___ Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse You're telling me they forged the apps for the folks who bought it? Does this mean...that they're still obtainable? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=330031#p330031 ___ Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse can try.Bigger problem I see, that new iTunes don't have the apstore, what means, that you will be not able download the ipa files to your computer.Interesting that papasangre and audio defence still working with ios 11, but because developer didn't payed

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Sad now that sixth sense is going the same way as the rest. I suppose once I update, if I do update, it will no longer be workable on my I7. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=329634#p329634

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Yes, the original Papa Sangre used their own voices. The Nightjar was the first game in which they used a big-name actor. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=329615#p329615 ___ Audiogames

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse am not sure, but I suppose, that the voices of the persons girls and the Papa man in the first and in second the person who was going through and woman and man voice wwere voices of their employees. For me it sounds logicall, why find another than use my

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Last what I read was, that they will sell only to the big companies. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=329429#p329429 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse If the Papa Engine wasn't open sourced, I did miss that. Last I heard they were actually open sourcing that. Well damn. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=329379#p329379 ___ Audiogames

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse How many times do I have to tell you, Apple doesn't do 32 bit support because they don't want to. It's possible, but they choose not to do it. Papa engine, last I heard is open sourced. The games are lost to time unless something else comes. End of story

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse As I know from the mail they left the dev account till the end of the cycle in 2016 of Jun or something like this and didn't pay for next year.But still they and I believe that they have the code or the games and waiting if somebody will come with big

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse A few comments:1. Papasangre 2 is working only in IOS 10.x. Papasangre 1 is working in ios 11, but there are some limitations.I think, that it is not problem of 64/32 bit applications.2. As I read somewhere the first papasangre came with higher price about

Re: Explanation from Somethinelse

Re: Explanation from Somethinelse So Apple sets an expiration date in the software to make it slow down on November 22 or whatever date they choose, or does it have to do with the actual device? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=329265#p329265

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse And that really shows Ios's unreliability as a platform for incredibly involved audio games of this type.shotgunshell wrote:Although I suppose there are people who are gullible enough to buy another device, thinking there's no way they can get screwed over

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse shotgunshell - as far as I'm aware the upkeep cost Vs revenue was the initial reason. although that won't so much be because of the share that Apple take of the money, bear in mind that they had no advertising or in app purchases, once someone has bought

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse shotgunshell - as far as I'm aware the upkeep cost Vs revenue was the initial reason. although that won't so much be because of the share that Apple take of the money, bear in mind that they had no advertising or in app purchases, once someone has bought

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse I would also like to know what the problem was.Obviously I am not a developer of mobile games and I also can't know how development for IPhones works.But if I as a company develop apps for apple, wouldn't I be bound by contract to update my code for each

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse But the people who can't use their apps anymore would probably be thinking, "No, screw you Apple, you're probably going to do something to take my money again," and Apple won't get anything out of it, right? Although I suppose there are

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Uh, right. But whether you bought the games or not, they'll obviously eventually stop working for good. Within a few software versions, I'm sure. Keep in mind that the games, as unfortunate as this is, are not, and cannot be officially declared abandonware

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Uh, right. But whether you bought the games or not, they'll obviously eventually stop working for good. Within a few software versions.@shotgunshell Well, it could actually make financial sense for Apple's benefit. A lot of 32bit apps are getting pulled

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse if you have your phone or Ipad jailbroken you can use appcake to get the games. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=329104#p329104 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse @Post22 The post was mainly asking in regards to the business, not the consumer. In the eyes of a businessmen, I would assume that stripping 32 bit compatibility wouldn't have any advantages. Did they do this for profit or was opinionated? URL: http

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse @Shotgunshell, with regard to your post about Apple and decisions that may screw people over, ask yourself this one question. Have any of Apple's controversial recent decisions ever been motivated by pure logic, and have they been all that ethical

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse I don't think it has much to do with sales, more to the point the difficulty of updating so many components grew to be a pretty thankless task, i e, they'd love to be spending time making more games, not updating them to work on the next new annual series

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse First, Apple does whatever they want. If you don't like that policy, stop buying Apple products and services and go elsewhere.As far as I'm aware, all the games are 64 bit compatible and should run on iOS 11. The company simply chose to remove them from

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse My question is, exactly how much money were Something Else allowed to keep from their products? I think they quit because they weren't earning enough from the games they sold to make updating the game every time a new version of IOS comes out worth it. I'm

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse My question is, exactly how much money were Something Else allowed to keep from their products? I think they quit because they weren't earning enough from the games they sold to make updating the game every time a new version of IOS comes out worth it. I'm

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse @jack, I consider 32-bit obsolete as well, though I'm certainly not against making an app 32-bit compatible if I must. But I'm usually very hesitant to do so, considering that it's becoming more obvious how 64-bit is the dominant factor and 32-bit is dying

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Re post 15 to Liam:Thanks for this great explanation. It totally makes sense. Many people think they buy something which works forever. This is sadly not the trooth. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=328991#p328991

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Phil, you bring up a good point. The engine, last I heard, was open sourced. There you go folks, there's your answer as to whether or not they would open source the games if they could. They open sourced the engine because the dev team had full control

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse When Somethin' Else dropped the games I figured that they were 32 bit and their head game designer retired.What is more frustrating is they were just about to start selling a iOS game engine that allowed people to make games much easier. URL: http

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse I also do want to point out something that may have been said. When you buy a game or even a song, you are not buying ownership rights for that product. Instead you are gaining usage rights. So this means that a developer is not mortally or legally

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse What I don't understand is why Apple can't use the 32-bit compatibility layer on top of 64-bit processors to run 32-bit apps. What's the problem with that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=328831#p328831

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Technically speaking, on the ios audio-gaming front the Papa Sangre series was as full-length as games ever got on that platform especially with binaural audio, but there indeed are many great games out there. The point is that this is not like finding

Re: Explanation from Somethinelse

Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Technically speaking, on the ios audio-gaming front the Papa Sangre series was as full-length as games ever got on that platform especially with binaural audio, but there indeed are many great games out there. The point is that this is not like finding

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse About app store purchases, as far as I know, Apps that are 32-bit don't Show up in the app store search results anymore.Haven't tested myself though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=328779#p328779

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Slightly off topic, but I do have to agree about holding off on app store purchases until after the dust settle after the release of iOS 11 and the dropping of 32 bit support.Other wise you could find you just bought a 32 bit app that won't be moving to 64

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Stuff like this is really terrible for game preservation. It's a shame many, many games are literally lost to time because of reasons like this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=328765#p328765

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse I have to agree with previous posts. The company no longer deals with said software. They've changed focuses. It's a lost cause. Move on. Other apps have suffered similar fates for various reasons. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=328757

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Re: Explanation from Somethinelse Hi,We swill see. I would be happy if I should move it forward and can tell you, that you can still play it. I am not doing only for my own but trying to do it for all our community.Second think it is principall but I spoke in differend topic.We will see

Explanation from Somethinelse

Explanation from Somethinelse Hi all,Here is the latest status from SomethinElse. I am trying push them if they can provide me the ipa files, Apple could sign it for me, that is not problem. But as it looks they don't want cooperate so much.I am trying get info who was the developer