Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? I won't recommend it.It's very good to sketch small apps or make some personal tasks easier.1) Window handling is automatic and placing objects is the easiest as far as I know. (Positioning isn't auto)2) Many libraries are built-in. 3) Calling dll functions is much easier than Python.4) one-touch exe conversion.But it's only applicable when the user has full access to Japanese resources without having to spend extra time understanding them. Trying HSP with translation, directionless experiments or any other extra task is simply a waste of time in my humble opinion, especially if the following disadvantages considered.1) It's slower than Python.2) It doesn't have proper local variable support.3) Its OOP support is almost nonexistent.4) It doesn't support dll callbacks.5) It doesn't provide struct support, meaning that we have to manually construct them.6) It doesn't have reliable dynamic array.7) Dictionary type is not supported.8) It has implicit type conversion rules and they're really hard and annoying.9) It's still impossible to develop accessible products on other platforms.10) some built-in libraries do not have required specs for audio game development E.G. socket.11) It doesn't teach you usable programming knowledge for your future career (applicable when you're trying to be a professional engineer / programmer). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514318/#p514318 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? I won't recommend it.It's very good to sketch small apps or make some personal tasks easier.1) Window handling is automatic and placing objects is the easiest as far as I know. (Positioning isn't auto)2) Many libraries are built-in. 3) Calling dll functions is much easier than Python.4) one-touch exe conversion.But it's only applicable when the user has full access to Japanese resources without having to spend extra time understanding them. Trying HSP with translation, directionless experiments or any other extra task is simply a waste of time in my humble opinion, especially if the following disadvantages considered.1) It's slower than Python.2) It doesn't have proper local variable support.3) Its OOP support is almost nonexistent.4) It doesn't support dll callbacks.5) It doesn't provide struct support, meaning that we have to manually construct them.6) It doesn't have reliable dynamic array.7) Dictionary type is not supported.8) It has implicit type conversion rules and they're really hard and annoying.9) It's still impossible to develop accessible products on other platforms.10) some built-in libraries do not have required specs for audio game development E.G. socket. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514318/#p514318 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? Hi Nyanchan, thanks for the information.I'd like to ask you this. You who know Hsp very well, what are the pros and cons? For those who want to make an audiogame would you recommend Python or Hsp? Now with nvda Translate it is no longer a problem to use a program in Japanese, because with these add-ons it translates everything into the desired language. Is there a documentation that explains how to program an audiogame, with the management of text to speech, audio, etc.? Even if it were in Japanese it wouldn't be a problem.Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514043/#p514043 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? The example above is inaccessible.accessible version:sdim ret,3for i,99,0,-1ret+=""+i+" Bottle(s) of beer on the wall, "+i+" bottle(s) of beer.\n"ret+="You take one down\n"j=i-1ret+=""+j+" bottle(s) of beer on the wall.\n"nextscreen 0,1200,800pos 0,0objsize 600listbox n,750,retobjsel statstop URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513980/#p513980 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? Hi, since it is a Japanese programming language, not much documentation is found. In any case, I will do my best to report documents from which to start. The last link is the official guide of HSP, which however is in Japanese, and is translated with google translate. However, this official guide only covers the basics, so I put it last.https://hsp3.web.fc2.com/en/http://lhsp.s206.xrea.com/index.en.htmlhttps://translate.google.com/translate? … nroll.htmlAn example that uses nursery rhyme 99 bottles of beer for i,99,0,-1 mes ""+i+"Bottle(s) of beer on the wall,"+i+"bottle(s) of beer." mes "Take one down and pass it around," j=i-1 mes ""+j+"bottle(s) of beer on the wall." next stop URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513883/#p513883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? Hi, since it is a Japanese programming language, not much documentation is found. In any case, I will do my best to report documents from which to start. The last link is the official guide of HSP, which however is in Japanese, and is translated with google translate. However, this official guide only covers the basics, so I put it last.https://hsp3.web.fc2.com/en/http://lhsp.s206.xrea.com/index.en.htmlhttps://translate.google.com/translate? … nroll.html URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513883/#p513883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? Hi, to my knowledge there is no official English documentation for Hsp. In any case, you can translate the one into Japanese, which is well done, using google translate. Machine translation is not bad, and I think anyone who wants to experiment has the basis for understanding language.https://translate.google.com/translate? … nroll.html URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513883/#p513883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? oo! interesting! so, its not in english then? can't wait tille it is! it sounds cool. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513860/#p513860 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? You can make game and aplications for windows, androin, steam, and I think macintosh. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513846/#p513846 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? aha. so, what can you do with it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513833/#p513833 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? HSP, my friend, is a language called hot soop prosesser. Have you ever played BK3 and you saw something like hspec.dll and hspinit.dll? yeah, that's HSP! it's easy and flexable to write in only problem is that there's lac of english manual. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513800/#p513800 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? what is hsp? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/513797/#p513797 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? interested on that 2 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/512849/#p512849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: HSP documentation in English?
Re: HSP documentation in English? Yeah, I was kinda wondering that as well. does anyone know where to find this? I would like to try out HSP. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/512716/#p512716 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
HSP documentation in English?
HSP documentation in English? Just like it says. Anybody have it? Or just a set of plane HTML pages so I can use chrome translation or something, the HDL kinda makes that hard. NVDA translate is fucking up the syntax in HDL and is really slow because it translates on navigation, and the HDL is just a pane to navigate anyway because the back button doesn't work... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/512584/#p512584 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
