Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I could never understand the use of tracker even the accessible ones which I already know (ammericandad2005 mentioned these) because I never, hmmm... "tracked" with these.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

@17Csound with a midi keyboard is fun.  I don't know how productive it is, as my interest is DSP stuff along the lines of synthizer, not getting music out.  Read the manual.  If you don't feel lost, it's for you.  Experimenting will tell you a lot more than I can here, though I will say that half these languages are the kind of thing you need a specialized background or the right kind of experiences to get much out of.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ammericandad2005 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

HAVE YOU TRIED DIGGING INTO TRACKERS? A FIEW ARE SURPRISINGLY ACCESSIBLE ENOUGH to be useful for serious stuff, at least if you're not dealing with effects. I use famitracker for nes music and bambootracker for fm music (it's ment for pc98 specificly, but it's braud ranging instrument support allows it to work for instruments from things like the sega genesis and the like, in fact the next version will add support for mucom88, the driver that Yuzo koshiro used for his music). to get instruments, I usually extracted .opm files from mdx files, then I used wolstand's bank editor to extract them to .wopni (one of the formats supported by bambootracker). I made at least a hundred bambootracker modules in various instrument sets, ranging from predictable zun early touhou type shit to prepriatary psgs like the one namco used in their arcade games.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-08-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Okay, sorry to ask if it feels like you're repeating yourself, but I want to ask, where exactly CSound falls in all of this?Is it worth anything in comparison to all these languages? What about its potential with a midi keyboard?

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

@15Supercollider and ChucK are almost exclusively for audio experimentation with almost no scoring capability.  They're aimed more at the algorithmic music crowd.  ChucK itself is only half documented, and I've never played with it much.In general the languages you're looking at are used by researchers and experimenters more than anyone else, and unless you're interested in how instruments themselves work, they're not worth your time.The limitation of most of them is incredibly poor support for feedback, which is incredibly important for most instruments.  What I mean is feeding the output of the synthesis back into the input.  For example, to simulate a flute, you might use two parallel delay lines connected with a filter at both ends and some math to model how air works at the ends.  That's a real example, it's called a 1-dimensional waveguide and is how a lot of plugins work.If you have a Midi keyboard, in other words, they can be fun.  But they won't help you if you don't.  In most of these you can't do that unless it already provides the flute model, and if it offers feedback it'll be in big blocks with a large minimum delay and thus useless for that sort of thing.You get to pick between relatively good support for note arrangement, etc, usually with midi output, or a bunch of tools to design your own instruments and effects with terrible scoring capabilities.  I'd suggest just reading the manuals fore any of the ones you're interested in; you can tell which category it falls in very very quickly.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Camlorn, what about other languages like super collider, or ChuckK? I assume that they simpley are not as good as CSound.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I'm using mml2mid just because my keyboard skills are dismal. I used to use MidiText by Aminiel (he did a topic about it 4 years ago IIRC) and it really was cool for me, since the syntax was very similar to MML. The coolest thing about it is that, depending on where the cursor was, with F5 you played the sequence from the cursor, and not from scratch doing a compilation. It is a shame, because I can no longer use it, since opening it gives me an error that the entry point cannot be found in the main executable.QWS and Reaper... Yeah, I also tried them to some extend only for fun, but I never did anything serious with them.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I used to use MidiText by Aminiel (he did a topic about it 4 years ago IIRC) and it really was cool for me, since the syntax was very similar to MML. The coolest thing about it is that, depending on where the cursor was, with F5 you played the sequence from the cursor, and not from scratch doing a compilation. It is a shame, because I can no longer use it, since opening it gives me an error that the entry point cannot be found in the main executable.QWS and Reaper... Yeah, I also tried them to some extend only for fun, but I never did anything serious with them.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I used to use MidiText by Aminiel (he did a topic about it 4 years ago IIRC) and it really was cool for me, since the syntax was very similar to MML. The coolest thing about it is that, depending on where the cursor was, with F5 you played the sequence from the cursor, and not from scratch doing a compilation. It is a shame, because I can no longer use it, since opening it gives me an error that the entry point cannot be found in the main executable.QWS and Reaper... Yeah, I also tried them to some extend only for fun, but I never did anything serious with them; besides with Reaper, it seems that I've a problem that not everyone has. Basically, whenever I use sample-based plug-ins (Sound Canvas VA, S-YXG50, you name it) and import my own MIDIs or existent ones, for an unknown reason Reaper gives me stuck notes. I did a lot of researches, but factors and probabilities vary between different cases.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I used to use MidiText by Aminiel (he did a topic about it 4 years ago IIRC) and it really was cool for me, since the syntax was very similar to MML. The coolest thing about it is that, depending on where the cursor was, with F5 you played the sequence from the cursor, and not from scratch doing a compilation. It is a shame, because I can no longer use it, since opening it gives me an error that the entry point cannot be found in the main executable (a very rare case since they always give errors in DLLs).QWS and Reaper... Yeah, I also tried them to some extend only for fun, but I never did anything serious with them; besides with Reaper, it seems that I've a problem that not everyone has. Basically, whenever I use sample-based plug-ins (Sound Canvas VA, S-YXG50, you name it) and import my own MIDIs or existent ones, for an unknown reason Reaper gives me stuck notes. I did a lot of researches, but factors and probabilities vary between different cases.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I used to use MidiText by Aminiel (he did a topic about it 4 years ago IIRC) and it really was cool for me, since the syntax was very similar to MML. The coolest thing about it is that, depending on where the cursor was, with F5 you played the sequence from the cursor, and not from scratch doing a compilation. It is a shame, because I can no longer use it, since opening it gives me an error that the entry point cannot be found in the main executable (a very rare case since they always give errors in DLLs).QWS and Reaper... Yeah, I also tried them to some extend only for fun, but I never did anything serious with them; besides with Reaper, it seems that I've a problem that not everyone has. Basically, whenever I use sample-based plug-ins (Sound Canvas VA, S-YXG50, you name it) and import my own MIDI files or existent ones, for an unknown reason Reaper likes to give me stuck notes. I did a lot of researches, and factors and probabilities vary between different cases.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I used to use MidiText by Aminiel (he did a topic about it 4 years ago IIRC) and it really was cool for me, since the syntax was very similar to MML. The coolest thing about it is that, depending on where the cursor was, with F5 you played the sequence from the cursor, and not from scratch doing a compilation. It is a shame, because I can no longer use it, since opening it gives me an error that the entry point cannot be found in the main executable (a very rare case since they always give errors in DLLs).QWS and Reaper... Yeah, I also tried them to some extend only for fun, but I never did anything serious with them; besides with Reaper, it seems that I've a problem that not many have. Basically, whenever I use sample-based plug-ins (Sound Canvas VA, S-YXG50, you name it) and import my own MIDI files or existent ones, for an unknown reason Reaper likes to give me stuck notes. I did a lot of researches, and factors and probabilities vary between different cases.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I used to use MidiText by Aminiel (he did a topic about it 4 years ago IIRC) and it really was cool for me, since the syntax was very similar to MML. The coolest thing about it is that, depending on where the cursor was, with F5 you played the sequence from the cursor, and not from scratch doing a compilation. It is a shame, because I can no longer use it, since opening it gives me an error that the entry point cannot be found in the main executable (a very rare case since they always give errors in DLLs).

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

HTF did I learn NWC in 2002 without assistance, and nobody else can figure it out with my help? QWS is way more accessible, but given the choice between an events list with all the midi details, and just writing sheet music with read-lag to get around the accessibility problems ...Anyway, QWS has a virtual keyboard that's semi usable, especially if you can tweak the config to your liking. NWC has nothing of the sort, and the version I use is not so good for modern Windows but the latest version has problems that prevent me from recommending it (mainly that they nerfed the free version). The biggest problem with the old version is that the help file is in an ancient, unsupported format, and I used the help file a lot when learning the program.Anyway, I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding the first two posts, but none of my midis were made with a midi keyboard. ... Or a virtual keyboard, on a count of by the time I've planned the song thoroughly enough, and practiced it enough to get a good recording... I could have written it several times over and tried a variety of modifications. But since most people apparently have rhythm or something...I know nothing about Reaper. I just use NWC for original music, and QWS when working with pre-existing midis (NWC mangles things with its midi importer, and quite badly, but I still use to use it to learn songs, and just mentally corrected the butchered rhythm).I do prefer NWC to music ml type generators, on the grounds that I can easily listen while editing, without need to compile or whatever. Maybe I just had more patience for learning software back then.I'm on my phone, so can't actually check what's in this, but if it's what I think it is (a bunch of midis I sent someone as a demo), then these are all made in NWC: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h97dF … opD2Z_wYC2Ugh, someone teach me how to make NVDA addons so I can fix the NWC accessibility problems. It should be trivial. At the absolute worst, it'd just append shift+left, ctrl+c, shift+right, nvda+c to everything, but that's really dumb and would mess up in literal edge cases and ruin the clipboard. But the way the clipboard thing works suggests that both NVDA addons and Jaws scripts should have other ways of identifying NWC notation.I don't like this post. What should I replace it with?

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Personally since I'm not good at using MIDI keyboards (I'm not a keyboardist even though I had some keyboards when I was a kid) I'm using mml2mid. But that's me, I know many people will never use MML for MIDI-related stuff.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Personally since I'm not good at using MIDI keyboards (I'm not a keyboardist even though I had some keyboards when I was a kid) I'm using mml2mid. But that's me, I know many people never will use MML for MIDI-related stuff.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Personally since I'm not good at using MIDI keyboards (I'm not a keyboardists even though I had some keyboards when I was a kid) I'm using mml2mid. But that's me, I know many people never will use MML for MIDI-related stuff.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dekyo-NEC2608 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Personally since I'm not good at using MIDI keyboards (I'm not a keyboardists despite having some keyboards when I was a kid) I'm using mml2mid. But that's me, I know some people never will use MML for MIDI-related stuff.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

@9The problem with the music languages is that music itself is fundamentally 2D, but text is fundamentally 1D.  For example, if you have a measure where there's 2 half notes forming a baseline and 4 quarter notes in the melody, you have to write them out as separate unrelated strings whereas a sighted person would be able to just see them stacked right next to each other and someone on a keyboard can just play it.  So to that end I've found the music programming languages cumbersome.  But if you want something good for midi, the best I know of is zel.  It still has all these problems, but it's at least a reasonable attempt.Csound is an interesting language and, the next time I need to experiment with DSP without using C/C++, I'll probably reach for it.  Its scoring language reads like this:i 1 2 3 2 3 2 4With one note per line, and no I don't remember the order of the parameters.  You don't even get symbolic note names by default and by default you also have to use absolute times as well.  But the instrument design portions are amazing and can literally do anything, so if you want a playground for learning DSP and how to design instruments Csound connected to a keyboard is a pretty good thing to try.  The only thing that beats it to my knowledge is Faust which is way worse at realtime experimentation, and I'm coding 3D audio library 3 so my knowledge is pretty extensive.  Specifically where everything but csound and faust fall down are recursive effects like reverb, waveguide synthesis, a bunch of other stuff where the end feeds back into the beginning, because for that you have to basically have a little compiler instead of just a bunch of blokcs you stick together.Mind you there's o built-in instruments, so that "the instrument design part is amazing" comes with the clarification that you'll be designing them whether you want to or not, or finding other people's to bring into your project.  But as Synthizer gets more advanced, I'll probably end up using csound to experiment before trying to code the C++ versions of various effects.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

You'll also need to manually edit the velocity. For every. Freaking. Note.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

@camlorn:Did you ever tried CSound? Not that I have any personal experience with it, but I hear that there are programming languages which can let you create music, and I've wanted to dig into them and find out for a while now, and the CSound is the most often mentioned among them.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : DJEPIC via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

@nsoft15, Well, I'd recommend getting yourself a MIDI keyboard, professional or not! You're just putting yourself at a disadvantage if you don't.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nsoft15 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Hi all, i don't wanna be a professional music composer, so i will not buy midi keyboar. I just wanna experimenting with midi and stuff.Regards.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Karlitos via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

I think sibelius is not that accesible because I can't change the parts a lone

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : DJEPIC via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Like others have said, recording MIDI with your computer keyboard is very possible (in fact it's how I do it), but it's slow, inefficient and tedious.To use Reaper's MIDI keyboard, press alt+b on the MIDI track. Voila, there's your keyboard. Experiment with what keys do here. Arrows change octave I think, and you can use the left half of your keyboard for MIDI notes.On your last question, why on Earth would you want to use QWS with Reaper, regardless of whether it's even possible?

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ignatriay via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

You can get computer apps that turn your computer's keyboard into a midi keyboard. Granted the process is way, way slower than say, recording it via an actual midi keyboard, however it is possible, and definitely  an option. Or then again you could use scoring apps like the ones mentioned above, Sibelius comes to mind as well in the scoring via notation department. However, midi without a midi keyboard, is possible. It does however, require a lot of patience. As an example. With a midi keyboard, you can play high and bace notes at once. With the midi computer keyboard, you would have to record  say, base notes first, and then record the high note over the recording you just did of the base notes.  With a midi keyboard, you can play both at once. That is atleast, how I do it when I need or want; to compose and don't have my midi keyboard with me. And then of course, to make it work with... Reaper or whatever software you use to compose, open the midi app first, and once its open, select the app as your midi input, from the software where your composing, reaper, pro tools, etc.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ignatriay via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

You can get computer apps that turn your computer's keyboard into a midi keyboard. Granted the process is way, way slower than say, recording it via an actual midi keyboard, however it is possible, and definitely  an option. Or then again you could use scoring apps like the ones mentioned above, Sibelius comes to mind as well in the scoring via notation department. However, midi without a midi keyboard, is possible. It does however, require a lot of patience. As an example. With a midi keyboard, you can play high and bace notes at once. With the midi computer keyboard, you would have to play say, base notes first, and then record the high notes instead of both at once. That is atleast, how I do it when I need or want; to compose and don't have my midi keyboard with me. And then of course, to make it work with... Reaper or whatever software you use to compose, open the midi app first, and once its open, select the app as your midi input, from the software where your composing, reaper, pro tools, etc.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ignatriay via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

You can get computer apps that turn your computer's keyboard into a midi keyboard. Granted the process is way, way slower than say, recording it via an actual midi keyboard, however it is possible, and defenetly an option. Or then again you could use scoring apps like the ones mentioned above, Sibelius comes to mind as well in the scoring via notation department. However, midi without a midi keyboard, is possible. It does however, require a lot of patience.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ignatriay via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

You can get computer apps that turn your computer's keyboard into a midi keyboard. Granted the process is way, way slower than say, recording it via an actual midi keyboard, however it is possible, and defenetly an option.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Lilypond or Musescore.

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Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: How to make music with out midi keyboard?

You probably don't.  Making music without a midi keyboard is something I and many others have tried, and the thing is that it's terribly inefficient even if you're sighted.  I'll be curious to see if there's an actually good answer, but 've looked many times over the years and never found one.

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How to make music with out midi keyboard?

2020-07-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nsoft15 via Audiogames-reflector


  


How to make music with out midi keyboard?

Hi all.I wanna start making music, but don't have any midi keyboard.Can someone tell me how to use build in reaper virtual midi keyboard?How to use reaper with qws?Thanks and regards.

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