Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Moderation:I really, really don't want to have to do this, but here goes.Thatguy, post 3 clearly violates several rules of the forum.1. The document lists first and last names, which have been posted ostensibly without the permission of those being referenced. If you can provide incontrovertible proof that this permission was granted prior to the release of the sensitive information - and good luck doing that, by the way - I'll drop this point. Otherwise, that's a warning all on its own. We do not give out sensitive info about other people for any reason without their express consent.2. Given that many claims have been made against many individuals for behaviours which may tarnish their reputation, and given that no proof has been furnished, I would judge this to be a form of mild to moderate character assassination. This marks another warning. Surely this document could have made its points without calling anyone out?3. There are no specific links to cracked software, but the document linked to in post 3 is quite clear on what you will get from the so-called essentials package, and some of that is illegal. While this site does not host that file, posting links to copyrighted material is against the rules. This merits another warning.Normally, your third warning means an instant thirty-day ban, and if it were just me and no one else, I would probably do that. Posting your link in this thread is a gross miscarriage of pretty much all standard forum conventions. It flies in the face of good internet etiquette, in the sense that someone came here asking for help and you provided a ringing condemnation of the community, much of which is either straight-up false or heavily exaggerated. Short of straight-up attacking the original poster, you probably couldn't have been more harmful if you tried. In a sense, the document is almost a form of "community assassination" which just so happens to smear a few specific members.As such, here's what's going to happen.1. You've got enough warnings for a ban as far as I'm concerned, but at this moment in time I'm not going to ban you. We will review the situation and decide whether a ban is needed.2. I am removing post 3, and the link it contains.3. I am asking that no one redistribute this document in this thread or in any other. I can't stop you if you want to spread it around privately amongst yourselves, but please don't send it without being asked first, and please don't post it anywhere else publicly. Anyone receiving this document without having asked for it first, please let me know so that I can investigate it. It is my strong opinion that as satirical and tongue-and-cheek as it is, this document represents far more harm than good in its current form, so I want to limit its scope as much as is reasonable.4. I wish to encourage anyone uncertain that this document does not, in fact, serve as an accurate representation of the community in general. There are truthful bits, and there are bad elements in the community including strange behaviours, tendencies and standards, but that is true of literally any group. Some blind people have good jobs, solid social lives within and outside of the blind community, excellent social skills, good manners, solid relationships, etc. In fact, I'd wager that the fair majority are nowhere near as strange as that document makes them look. If you must read it at all, take everything therein with an enormous grain of salt. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402857/#p402857 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? "we have included the cracked versions for you." It says it right there, does it not? As far as i'm concerned, this against forum rules. While not directly linking to carcked software, anyone who clicks on this link and reads the handbook can easily obtain them. Had this been done privately, it would have not been against the rules. I really don't think something like this should have been posted on this topic. The original poster was not asking for something like this. I have reported this post, and hope that the mods will do something about this. SOmething like this does not belong on the forum, especially considering that it mentions specific people's names. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402848/#p402848 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? "we have included the cracked versions for you." It says it right there, does it not? As far as i'm concerned, this against forum rules. While not directly linking to carcked software, anyone who clicks on this link and reads the handbook can easily obtain them. Had this been done privately, it would have not been against the rules. I really don't think something like this should have been posted on this topic. The original poster was not asking for something like this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402848/#p402848 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? @40: This is the *exact* part from the handbookSoftware cracks and other illigality As mentioned in the previous section, being part of the blind community entitles you to some courteous software. Ordinarily, you would have to invest a couple hundred bucks to get this basic blindy essentials package running, but we have included the cracked versions for you. Yes, this is illegal. But they would have to arrest a small percentage of the world if they wanted to do anything about it. Cracked software refers to programs which you would usually have to pay money for, but have either been modifyed or already payed for so that you don't have to do that. One example of this is Virtual Audio Cable, which allows you to route sound on your computer around to different applications. Without the cracked version, the word: "Trial!" would constantly be inserted into the routed audio stream, which, needless to say, isn't fun for anyone. But with the included version, you get all the features money could buy, without paying any at all. There are all kinds of cracked software for the blind. For some blind people, it's a hobby. As a result, you get more bang for less buck. You just have to know the right people to ask to get it. There are a select group of individuals who you will need be aquainted with in order to obtain any cool cracked software. If you are really lucky, then you may even be added into a group on social media in which people discuss nothing but cracks and send links to already cracked stuff.Explain to me where that links to any software cracks? You can read it for yourself, Bryant, I quoted it,verbatim,fromthe handbook. No mention of crak links anywhere in the handbook. The only link is to the (currently down)blindieseentials package and website. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402838/#p402838 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi.Posting something like this on this topic was not cool. Mods, I encourage you to remove this link, as it mentions specific names, as well as downloads to cracks of software, which in and of itself illegal. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402822/#p402822 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? There were some valid points and golden nuggets scattered throughout the thing, but yeah, I still maintain my position that parading it in this topic was in poor taste. And what the hell is wrong with using a mechanical keyboard, anyway? Are you aware that there are hobbyists who build their own and take them to conventions specifically designed for that purpose? I can almost guarantee that 99.9% of those folks aren't blind. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402786/#p402786 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? I like it, too, but honestly there’s a time and a place for this kind of thing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402771/#p402771 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? @post 32, we spent a couple months on it. There was actually a previously released version which was simply updated throughout that time period. Also, @post 36, I do agree with you on some points, but what's done is done. Besides, It's downright uncaring when you let completely inocent people get into something they'll probably regret for a long while without knowing the consequences URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402713/#p402713 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Sigh. That document probably scared the original poster of this topic off, at least in some respects. Honestly, there is probably a time and a place to break out something like that, and it's not in a highly visible topic, to a person who clearly just joined the forum and, if I'm not mistaken, doesn't speak English as their first language. My apologies if I've gotten that part wrong.For someone who holds such disdain towards drama, you sure are stirring the pot. I don't even know any of the people mentioned, which is why I can be objective and say this without bias.Also, you people should really keep in mind that the content of this forum is very easily searchable, and putting first and last names out there for anybody to find isn't good practice. I realize that such information is pretty accessible nowadays, but handing it out, no matter what said people might have done, isn't right either. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402612/#p402612 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Yeah, that was one of the few useful pieces of advice in that thing, hold on to that one.The rest seems to mainly be biased fluff, much of which applies to the internet at large or seems isolated to just a couple people/incidence and then blown out of proportion for cheap laughs and internet points.It's also written in a hard to follow manner that obscures the point and could easily have been compressed to be allot more readable for the intended audience. But hey, I guess drama is interesting... Regardless of voracity or source.I know it's supposed to be all in fun, but the shade thrown at specific names and the inability to separate humor from serious info makes this next to useless for what it's advertised as in my opinion. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402468/#p402468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Okay, here we go!1. Don't be too overly polite or too overly sensitive. Okay, that's more an internet thing, butit still applies (see the bleeding heart remarks on previous pages)2. Keep a normal, healthy and interesting life.3. Don't brag about every tiny thing you do. Seriously. There's blind people who brag about the tiniest things. Which leads in some quartrs to snark and mockery. Not constantly my quartr, despite what people think.4. Don't pay attention to blind people too much. In other words, okay, John Smih has a £90 cane. So what? You don't need one to keep up. Next updon't b afraid to stand up and say what you're thinking. Goes back to point #1but.there's absolutely people, both blind and sighted who are too afraid to say what they're thinking. It seems, at least from a casual glance, to be something the blind community have a problem with and any sort of debate can be met with cries of oh you're not being respectful. Problem is.that's needed to stand up and say things are wrong nd how they are wrong.And last point: Don't be afraid of how people percieve ya. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402504/#p402504 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Aw man.I'm late to the party.Okay. @1: Welcome. I believe I just added ya on Skype and asked who ya are@3: I'm not sure if Pluma not figuring out the encoding is a good thing or not.@drama: Save it for yo llamas, guys. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402500/#p402500 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Yeah, that was one of the few useful pieces of advice in that thing, hold on to that one.The rest seems to mainly be biased fluff, much of which applies to the internet at large or seems isolated to just a couple people/incidence and then blown out of proportion for cheap laughs and internet points.It's also written in a hard to follow manner that obscures the point and could easily have been compressed to be allot more readable for the intended audience. But hey, I guess drama is interesting... Regardless of voracity or source.I know it's supposed to be all in fun, but the shade thrown at specific names and the inability to separate humor from serious info makes this next to useless for what it's advertise as. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402468/#p402468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Yeah, that was one of the few useful pieces of advice in that thing, hold on to that one.The rest seems to mainly be biased fluff, much of which applies to the internet at large or seems isolated to just a couple people/incidence and then blown out of proportion for cheap laughs and internet points.It's also written in a hard to follow manner that obscures the point and could easily have been compressed to be allot more readable for the intended audience. But hey, I guess drama is interesting... Regardless of voracity or source. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402468/#p402468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Yeah, that was one of the few useful pieces of advice in that thing, hold on to that one.The rest is just biased fluff, much of which applies to the internet at large or seems isolated to just a couple people/incidence and then blown out of proportion for cheap laughs/asshole points. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402468/#p402468 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? That book was the funniest thing that I read in the blind community.Actually, it was the only funny thing that I ever read in this community.How long have you spent on that?And as others already have said, keep talking to normal people too. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402459/#p402459 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi,Post 30, thanks for this link, I'll check it out. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400844/#p400844 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? ah okay so basically everything free.In that case, try this topic.http://forum.audiogames.net/topic/26039 … recommand/ URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400699/#p400699 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi,Post 28, I like genres like card and board games, fighting games, strategy games, simulators, puzzles, browser based games, and others which I don't remember now. I can't pay currently. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400696/#p400696 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? What genres of games do you like, that will help me to know what to suggest, also, how much can you pay. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400688/#p400688 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi,Post 24 and 25, I'll take care, thanks.Post 26, thanks for welcoming me, hope forward to have you as a good friend. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400587/#p400587 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hey.First, welcome to the comunity, howp you have a nice time here, but, you have to interact with sighted people too, try to keep your online life some what far from the offline one and, the most important, try to interact with the big world, especialy offline.Second, post 8, I can not agree more.And therd, yes, I will add you to skype, it is nice to get new friends, but try to stay away from most random groups. Again, enjoy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400582/#p400582 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? That handbook could not have been more truthful. It is the reason I avoid 90 to 95 percent of the blind community. That is not a good thing, either. It is simply something I do to maintain my sanity and frankly, to maintain a normal, healthy lifestyle. You should try it too! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400581/#p400581 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? don't, ever play online games, current online games suck. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400580/#p400580 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi,Thanks post 21 for all those awesome games. I'll try all of them. Yeah, I tried eurofly but I found it difficult but I'll try to play it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400554/#p400554 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi everyone,I have made my skype account and I would like to add you guys. My skype id is live:hazzle_5, please add me away. I'm currently seeing into teamtalk. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400552/#p400552 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? el here are fiew games that you can tryeurofly, a airplain similation game that you fly a place from an other, on a real maptdv, an other airplain game but, well, for blasting each other.crazy party, this one has 3 mods, board games, that you throw dices and get several bonuses at each turn, battle, like a pokemon battle with cards, and minigames well those are verry diffrent, you might find yourself at driving a basic train or playing mine sweaperlets come to text based ones, i quite like warsim, its a a kingdom management game.topspeed, if your in to rcar racing you can try it out, its a bit old but, you know still worksand there are muds that blind people play, also sighted do but, stillcosmic rage, a space based mud, rolplay is encaruged, free to play, friendly players and hostsaltereon, verry popular gameand you always can check the audiogames gaming listalso check the new releases room time to time URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400551/#p400551 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? el here are fiew games that you can tryeurofly, a airplain similation game that you fly a place from an other, on a real maptdv, an other airplain game but, well, for blasting each other.crazy party, this one has 3 mods, board games, that you throw dices and get several bonuses at each turn, battle, like a pokemon battle with cards, and minigames well those are verry diffrent, you might find yourself at driving a basic train or playing mine sweaperlets come to text based ones, i quite like warsim, its a a kingdom management game.topspeed, if your in to rcar racing you can try it out, its a bit old but, you know still worksand there are muds that blind people play, also sighted do but, stillsocmic rage, a space based mud, rolplay is encaruged, free to play, friendly players and hostsaltereon, verr populer gameand you always can check the audiogames gaming listalso check the new releases room time to time URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400551/#p400551 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? @post 13 this handbook was released last june, and is periodically updated every 6 months. However, the latest december edition is unable to officially be put up on blindyessentials.com because it is down currently. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400543/#p400543 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? And here I thought things were calming down on the forum URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400537/#p400537 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi,Wow, I'm glad to be here. I found many new games developed by aprone and I'm checking them out. They are simle to operate.Post 15, Oh skype! I'll check it out.Post 16, Don't worry, these discussions are important.Suggest me new games which you think I should try. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400529/#p400529 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? well that, and a ton of stuff in their applies to the internet community at large anyway and doesn't even need to be said LOL. The rest I can't comment on much as I've never gone that deep into blind culture, and don't particularly intend to.A simple general warning of what to look out for would have taken just a few lines and been far more useful and less confusing/misleading. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400526/#p400526 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? well that and a ton of stuff in their applies to the internet community at large anyway and doesn't even need to be said LOL. The rest I can't comment on much as I've never gone that deep into blind culture, and don't particularly intend to. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400526/#p400526 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? @#15 Can't argue with you there about the bleeding heart thing. That's exactly my problem though, calling out people by name. One or two people who were called out in that document are good friends of mine, and they're high-standing people as well. Did I react harshly? Yes, probably, but things are a bit different when you see your friends being bashed for no reason. The rest of those people in there are generally known to be pricks, but that's still not a good reason for calling them out. But you're right, I probably should have kept my mouth shut, and I will on this subject. Lets try to get back to the topic at hand now, and sorry @#1 for derailing it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400513/#p400513 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Shotgunshell, you should know at this point that your a bit of a bleeding heart and can't look at this very subjectively. The blind community has problems, pointing out those problems isn't a bad thing, it's a good help to new members, naming and shaming probably doesn't belong in a document that's supposed to help new people though, it's not exactly classy.But congrads confusing the poor guy everyone, could have just PM'd him the file to avoid conflict, and didn't need to have a back and forth, just state opinion if you really feel you gotta, and leave.Skype is another communication option, plenty of people on the forum have one in their signature or in their profile. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400509/#p400509 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? @#11 How old is this book exactly? Maybe a lot of those people are indeed immature, but I know a couple of them and they are really nice and smart people. This book is not entirely truthful, maybe it was many years ago when it was written but not anymore. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400498/#p400498 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi everyone,Thanks very much to you all for responding this soon. I will read through your posts and I'll try to answer you all.Post 2, Thanks for welcoming me. Oh yes, I'm going to download teamtalk and give it a try. I love card and board games, simulations, fighting games, strategy games too, and many more categories.Post 3, I'll give it a look.Post 7, oh is it? I'll take care about it.Post 8, thanks very much for the advices, I'll keep them in mind.Thanks you all again, to give me advices. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400499/#p400499 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? I knew a few of those people listed and no longer interact with any of them because of the reasons listed in that document. I'd say some of it is true, but it doesn't necessarily reflect everyone. Still, it gave me a good laugh. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400496/#p400496 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Shotgunshell, if you knew any of the people mentioned in that book you would also know that what that guy said was right. The names that I saw at least were names of people who are often childish and immature. That guy did the right thing by putting them in there. And also, that document, if nothing else, was a joke. It was right in a lot of ways, but was still made to be funny, at least I think.And those things you called like stereotypes may have started out with sighted people, however those are things that you can't get away from in the blind community the same way you can in the real world. Which leads us back to my opinion from before... Don't get too involved in the blind community. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400493/#p400493 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Oh boy, here we go…@#9 I don't even know a lot of the people you pointed out in that book. I do know, however, that calling out names and accusing them of things is a form of character assassination, a conversation which I’m sure you remember from about three months ago. These people could be very nice, but others may not want to meat or interact with them now because they’ve heard things about them. This makes a person less likely to make any new friends because their reputation has been tarnished. That, my friend, is character assassination.A lot of these stereotypes you’ve pointed out are traits shown in a lot of sighted people. This is the general direction the world is headed in, and blind people are not mostly to blame for it. In fact, do you know how blind people got most of these quirks to begin with? By observing the actions of others online, especially sighted people. Want to hear someone blowing into their microphone or raging at everything under the son? Look up gaming videos on YouTube. Want to hear people starting and stopping relationships at least 15 times a year? Find a random teenager on Facebook and look at their posts. I could go on and on about the various stereotypes you pointed out being reminiscent of the behavior of the entire online world, but if I did I wouldn’t be able to finish the list even by next year.So, what’s my point? Don’t destroy peoples reputation just because you don’t like them. And please, before you accuse blind people of doing certain things, do your research. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400490/#p400490 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? @post7, this handbook was not written to put anyone to shame. Names, although they are perhaps used more than needed, only serve to emphasize a point and are not used to call anyone out. I mean, can you honestly tell me that after spending time in the community of blind people, you haven't noticed these things? Tell me, am I wrong by compiling a document that points out stereotypes of how blind people act? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400487/#p400487 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Wow, that handbook is fantastic. I haven't read it all yet, but the bit I did read couldn't have been more truthful.My advice to you is this: don't get too involved in the blind community. Interact with sighted people as much as you can. That is the problem with most blind people in general, they don't know how to live normal lives in the real world and often resort to computing as a means of not being socially awkward around sighted people. Don't, do this. For the love of god, don't! Also, spending too much time in the blind community and nowhere outside of it will cause severe braincell loss. I have learned this from experience. It is possible to gain back the cells one has lost, but this, like most things, takes time, and is a painful process.I don't mean to offend everybody, but I just felt I really had to get that out there. I could have created another topic, but what the hell. I don't mean to hate on everyone on this forum or blind people as a whole, but I just find it is a serious problem that blind people spend way, way too much time online and only interacting with other blind people (blind schools are a good example of this). This is not the real world. Not at all. Accept being blind as who you are and move on. Now I know a lot of people are able to live completely normal lives, in other words they look passed blindness and simply embrace what they have. But i'd say about 90 percent of the blind community doesn't do this for whatever reason, And I personally think that's not the best environment to put yourself in. It limits your life and what you can experience and do and etc. Again I apoligize for the rant but I feel it just needed to be said. The blind community is good for short periods of time every once and a while to get help with technology or something, but don't get so involved that its basically your whole life. That's what i'm trying to say. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400486/#p400486 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? AKA, it's meant to embarrass certain people who don’t deserve it for no reason, and to try to make the writers look smart and mature. Spoiler alert, they aren’t. Don’t waste your time reading that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400483/#p400483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? @post4, this is only the truth, the honest truth, and nothing but the truth. It was compiled to warn incoming members, such as @post1, of just what nonsensical things they'll have to do/put up with when joining the community. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400475/#p400475 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? That was priceless. Now if only they had ran a spell checker through it and corrected a few your vs. you're grammar errors ... Well, still worth every minute I spent reading it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400418/#p400418 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? What is this? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400417/#p400417 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Now hold on there. Before you get too far into the blind community, I highly encourage you to read this handbook so that you know just what you are getting into. Proceed with caution. https://www.dropbox.com/s/72hh2nd4041md … 9.txt?dl=1 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400390/#p400390 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hazzle, welcome to the forum and the website. I recommend looking at the game list on the main page. There are many different types of audio games. What types of games are you interested in? Do you like card and board games? Do you like fighting games, puzzle games, strategy games, arcade games, etc?As for a voice chat program, most blind folks seem to like TeamTalk. I'm personally not a fan of it because you have to know what server you're connecting to and it's not very popular in the mainstream. There's also Zoom Cloud Meetings which is mainstream and works really well on all platforms. TeamTalk can be downloaded from https://bearware.dk and Zoom is available from https://zoom.us. If you're using TeamTalk, you will need to connect to a server. Unless you know the details for a private server, I'd recommend the public US one. You can create or join private channels that are password protected. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400372/#p400372 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hazzle, welcome to the forum and the website. I recommend looking at the game list on the main page. There are many different types of audio games. What types of games are you interested in? Do you like card and board games? Do you like fighting games, puzzle games, strategy games, etc?As for a voice chat program, most blind folks seem to like TeamTalk. I'm personally not a fan of it because you have to know what server you're connecting to and it's not very popular in the mainstream. There's also Zoom Cloud Meetings which is mainstream and works really well on all platforms. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400372/#p400372 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
I'm new to the blind community, what to do next?
I'm new to the blind community, what to do next? Hi everyone,As the title says, I'm new to this blind community and I don't know what all I can do here. I have been playing games like eurofly and others. I found it somewhat difficult but it can be due to me being a newbie to the gaming community. I have herd that many people converse on some sort of chatting platform, not sure what it is. Please guide me through it and please tell me about good games. I look forward to your replies. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/400369/#p400369 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
