Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd @Camlorn, are you saying that PB sucks just because its shareware? Because if you are, I take that as a personal offense. And no, writing a game isnt the easiest thing you will ever do in C/C++. I do agree though, GNU is quite popular for mathimatical, compilation

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd To allow commercial software into GNU would defeat the whole point of its existance.Why would you take a critical opinion of PB as a personal offense? Just seems odd is all. Personally I dont like most of those proprietary programming/scripting languages like

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd No. I did not say that PB sucks because its shareware. Any programming language that costs money has a specific set of pretty serious problems associated with it in terms of actually being able to be used on a team of any sort whatsoever. That is why we dont see

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd @wanderer, I am not saying that GNU hates me. Im just saying that GNU needs to step back and assess their situation. They wont get ultra popular unless they accept proprietorial software, which they wont do. Oh, and your thing about PB not being for Linux

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd Okay. Sorry. I cant not comment. I tried, but I cant.Gnu is extremely popular. Gnu is bone-crushingly popular. I cannot state the popularity and importance of Gnus software in terms that would fit in the universe. Gnu maintains what used to be and probably still

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd A few things from the last post Id like to address.First, regarding the FSF movement, its important to remember that were refering to free as in freedom, not price. Plenty of free software lisences allow commercialization, so long as the source code is available

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd A few things from the last post Id like to address.First, regarding the FSF movement, its important to remember that were refering to free as in freedom, not price. Plenty of free software lisences allow commercialization, so long as the source code is available

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd WRT the GNOME situation, there are a couple of shims already available to try and provide the systemd interfaces in userspace, but it looks like the Ubuntu shim used while Canonical were using upstart is now redundant since they, also, have gone to the dark side

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd @Wanderer, I do get when youre coming from, and I realise that desktop Linux is in many ways a different OS from Server Linux (or just Unix). I would say that that was a mistake, but perhaps history has shown otherwise.But I really think systemd was the wrong

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd @cebi, you could always reverse engineer gnome and make its dependencies not use systemd. I haveto agree with you though: runit and openrc are much better alternatives myself. They offer more flexibility when configuration. And why would you use binary log files

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd

Re: I F**ing Hate Systemd Ive had no problems with Systemd, though Ive never run a server and havent needed to mess with it much. From a purely esthetic point of view I kind of like it, since so many components in Linux are written by totally different people who dont collaborate, and you

I F**ing Hate Systemd

I F**ing Hate Systemd This rant ^H^H^H^H message is intended for people running Linux but especially those who, not unnaturally, use GNOME on that platform for their graphical environment.As you may have guessed by now, a war is raging. It concerns systemd, a set of daemons intended