Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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I think all productive matters have been discussed, but even if they haven't, you have two sides here which are split on how best to handle this situation, one side apparently a little more extreme than the other.  Watching this topic closely has shown me personally that leaving it open isn't solving a thing.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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I am considering whether to close the topic. Does anyone want to add anything or do you think all has now been said and done?

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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I'm grateful Aprone finally baned Abdulrahman. Since the beginning, I thought he deserved the same treatment as Ethin has received for his provocative behavior. Abdul is a very well known figure on the Playroom, even to someone like me, who is a semi-regular player but hardly ever chats to anyone. In my own case, first, I don't usually have enough time to spend it chatting to other people than those I've met personally, i.e. they come from my country, second, sometimes I fear I could receive the same unfair treatment from the mods as some of my friends, and third, I join those who said they were active on the Playroom to play games, not to socialize with other, sometimes somewhat weird or strange people. :-)I believe Abdul is either the most seriously spoiled and badly brought up child I've ever encountered or heard of, in the blind community as well as outside of it, or he has a combined disability besides just his visual impairment. The most likely can
 didate is, in my opinion, a serious and real personality disorder. There are so many of them and I'm not involved with psychology in any real way that I don't dare to propose the exact disorder, disease or syndrome, but considering what I've heard about these disasters from my partner and her friends who all do study psychology, I'm seriously inclined to believe this is actually the case. Considering the country Abdul lives in, I really doubt he's ever going to get properly diagnosed, tracked and treated, which in fact makes me sorry for him rather than angry with him, the more I think of it.To let those who don't have personal experiences with ABdul and haven't perhaps figured everything out by themselves yet know, he has been heard, caught and recorded on Skype/Zello/Teamtalk/whatever similar program conversations changing voices, pretending to be all those people who he claims are not and never were his fake alter accounts, he's been
  directly confronted with proves of his other transparent lies, yet he's never admited even a single one of them as far as I'm aware. He almost deserves to be admired for his incredible ability to always dodge everything he's forced to face, always avoiding it, always trying to make up another unbelievable insane naive cover story within a few seconds. :-)For all this, I believe even the possibility that he might be sincerely convinced everything he says is actually true. If he does in deed suffer from a mental disorder or disability, he can't be held responsible for his own actions, claims and opinions. I'm not saying this to excuse his intollerable behavior on the forum though, not at all, just to demonstrate the potential frightening depth and direness of the situation he might be in.As far as Ethin is concerned, asking your friends to post your rants for you might only get you worse reception rather than helping you get out of the trouble yo
 u are in. It was you yourself who got you into it, in the first place. Being rude to someone doesn't mean just straight out using foul language. It's all this childish, immature, provoking behavior of threatening, insulting, boasting about your own abilities for nothing, whether you do actually have them or not, failing to listen to the other side's reasons just because you have your own reasons to be angry with them, reiterating the same point over and over again, no matter whether it's valid or not, even though you've been obviously shown the other side has already heard it but just doesn't care about it any more either way, and so on and so on and so on, the behavior you've conducted and which can't be tollerated for too long goes on beyond just this.And sorry, but posting several long and loud posts where you threaten to hack the Playroom, then being banned, then coming here through a friend almost begging to be let back in and claim
 ing you've learned your lesson, you've changed, everything is going to be different this time, whatever, just such a short while since you've received your ban in the first place, that just doesn't mean a lot at all. I could tell you how little it actually means to myself but that might get me an unnecessary warning from the mods as well. :-D Even the fact you apparently still remain banned clearly shows you how much the mods themselves think of such claims of yours.The fact that I've joined those who were complaining about the unfairness of the ban which initially started this very topic is not just about subjective reality, as Nocturnus said very close to the beginning of the topic, though. I can't just agree with those who basically say that when the Playroom is provided for free, as a courtesy, as a kind gift from the developer which was made and is being maintained in his spare time, that we should not politely complain whenever we have soli
 d basis to do so, that we should perhaps instead really just shut up and either stay on the Playroom, grateful that it even exists when it's for free, or go

Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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@speeder,Word of advice; it's not in your best interests to be posting messages for banned members on here.  If we want to hear from them, we'll unban them so they can post themselves.  Ethin has, to put it mildly, been a naughty boy.  I hated having to send him away, but well, there ya have it.

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ethin's next message:\Hello all,@Briant, Oh, yes, I have learned what all of that means. I simply have a different way of expressing myself than the one which you like. I have learned not to be rude to other forum members. In fact, I was never "rude" to anyone on this topic. OK, I was rude to abdulrahman.essam, but I think you can understand exactly why I was so rude in the first place. Thing is, Briant, sometimes the only way for someone to understand anything is to be rude to them, or to be harsh to them. And I have learned what proper forum conduct is. Please, please go look at my previous posts on this forum before saying that I have or have not learned anything, because it's obvious that you still hate me for things long gone.@Aprone, thank you for banning him. I was just about to post another retort, but then, once I saw your message, well, I rewrote it as this as a replacement.  Thanks.

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@speeder:That is not the issue here. The issue is that ethin has been warned on more than 1 occasion and also banned, and he has still not learned not to be rude to other forum members, or what conduct on this forum is.And when a person says they can hack something, I would think that makes their ententions quite clear.Long story short, Ethin has not, despite many warnings and indeed 2 bans, still not learned what proper forum conduct is. He did this sort of thing last time has was banned. He registered under a different username and begged to be reinstated into this community, saying that he was cinceerly sorry for his actions. And look at what's happened now and what has happened in the past. If I were moderator, I would do the same thing as nocturnis has done. I wouldn't want that kind of person on the forum. he's already had his second chance. My impression that he's just going to carry on being the person he is if he's unbanned.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Moderation!Abdulrahman, some of your earlier posts were somewhat close to the line, but I believe this latest post of yours puts you over it.  You are making specific hacking threats so I see no reason to give you any different treatment than Ethin was given.  Unless, and until, another moderator chimes in to defend your posts, I am banning you from the forum.  At this time it is my opinion that your posts in this thread are similar enough to Ethin's post (which got him banned), so it is only fair to give you the same consequences.If my fellow moderators disagree with my decision, then I do encourage them to speak up.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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> His Fullname is Carl Carlos MassoniOK. So I definitely don't know anybody having this name. That's pure invention.Your posts are just provocation. I should no longer reply.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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[ a-t ] AminielI already posted His RealnameHis Fullname is Carl Carlos Massonitry to rememberAlso He has told Me that He has visited You, also I have heard Your Voice so You can't lieAbout finding a Street address of someone, it's impossibleI did an IP lookup and it's only displayes The location, City, ISP, Organisation and Cordanates@Ethinenough lies, and thanks for The strongest hacking tools that You gave MeDo You think that leaving The team and lying is The solution to get unbanned?Sure Not, and You gave Me about 54 hacking toolsAnd By The Way: Didn't You say that Most of Your Tools can break The strongest Firewall?No way to lie to The Team: etthinOur team is Profissional, We have a Skype chat History, But Believe Me: if I shared it Here: You won't be able to lieYou have left The team before an Hour ago, But We still have The hacking tools that You gave U
 s, not only Tools, The modefied version of DebianNote That I won't tell The name so Aminiel won't know about it, You told me to keep it Secret, About FirewallsBelieve Me: There, is, no, Firewall, which, protect, from, Strongest, tools that, You, gave MeThere is No Website or Server wich impossible to hackEven I can hack IOS, and Android, but I won't do itAnd Sure I'm not a god, But You already said that You joined Our Team in Skype so: no liesOw I forgot: Do You know that I have recorded The Skype Call?Do You know: I always record Skype calls, so: Ethin: No way to lieEven if You continue lying, No One believe YouBTW: we have 4 New Members from Iran which They can help usalso: I won't stopSoon: The QuentinC's Gameroom will be hacked

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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@speeder:That is not the issue here. The issue is that ethin has been warned on more than 1 occasion and also banned, and he has still not learned not to be rude to other forum members, or what conduct on this forum is.And when a person says they can hack something, I would think that makes their ententions quite clear.Long story short, Ethin has not, despite many warnings and indeed 2 bans, still not learned what proper forum conduct is.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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I'm sorry, but 21 in age don't represent 21 in maturity. I know that my english is bad but i hope you understand what i'm And i agree with Aminiel, you re not paying for it so you not have the right to complain. We are lucky that we have hosted servers, is cheap to maintain a hosted sever even if domesticaly or on vps.Hope everyone understud my bad english, lol.

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disclaimer:this message was posted of my own valition, for ethin, who writes, Hello all,Ethin here. I am writing this message and posting it through Speeder as I am unable to at the moment. So, I'm going to say this:I am not, was never, and will never be associated with, collaborated with, or otherwise correlated with abdulrahman.essam or his so called "team." I have never hacked the playroom, and, if I did, I would be far more sneaky and difficult to track. I also would not advicate or otherwise publicate myself like abdulrahman.essam has done. @Nocternis, I did not mean to break forum rules. Please accept my appologies. (Oh, and, if you would unban me so I could speak without having to go through others as my proxies or spokespersons, please, that would be appreciated.)Also:@abdulrahman.essam:You, abdulrahman, are truly an idiot. I have never seen something more idiotic or stupid in my entire life. The fact that you think 
 you can just waltz into Aminiel's server and just do what you wish without any emanation is just astounding. Do you think that Aminiel has left his server--a Linux server, mind you--defenseless? Do you honestly think he wouldn't have any tools to create inter-networked shields, firewalls, and cross-computer auditing systems to ensure that his server was protected? Of course he would! He would protect his server as best he could, and, now that you have broadcasted your intentions to the universe, and described what, exactly, you'll do, you have given Aminiel ways to stop you, and I definitely know that he has probably set those defenses up already. You are not a god, abdulrahman! You are human; a biological and genetical creature of natures creation who can fuck up just like anyone else. So don't go saying that I've joined your pothetic and inarticulate "team" of asinine juveniles! I would never associate with someone like you! So here's my lit
 tle deal for you:You will stop, immediately, ruining my reputation just because you can. You will stop pissing everyone off and you will stop threatening Aminiel just because you think you can do whatever you want with impunity. And, most of all, you will stop being an idiot and acting like some child who can't understand the word 'no'. And if you don't stop blathering and claiming that I have joined your little group of juviniles and children, believe me when I tell you that I will litterally make your life a living hell on earth, and you will definitely wish you were never born. (You might also be facing legal charges for defacing me like that.)So, I've had enough. Maybe this damn ban was good for me. Maybe it wasn't. I had to change my IP address and delete my cookies in order to get on the forum to read the latest gossip, but now I really, really wish I hadn't. I am getting sick and tired of idiots who think they can do what they wa
 nt, whenever they want, and however they want, and nothing will happen as a result. (I guess (and suppose) that I was like that once...) (And no, I don't have control of Speeder's computer. I asked him to post this message for me as I am currently... indisposed, if you will.)I'm sorry for being so harsh and rude, but abdulrahman just really pissed me off.Oh, and Aminiel, I know that I said I would hack the playroom, but I didn't mean what I said. I guess I was caught up in the moment--or caught up in my anger--and... well, you know. I didn't mean anything I said. (OK, I meant what I said about your moderators, but nothing else. I meant every word in this message, however.)So, please enjoy your lives. I'll keep monitoring the forum, like I always do. Oh, and mods, don't try and find me. You won't be able to. If I have to, I'll wait out this ban and then get back into the community. In the meantime, though, I'll still
  be reading the forum. I will just ask others to post messages for me, as it's quite obvious that I cannot.  So, enjoy your lovely lives and have fun!thanks,

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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> •He studied with You in School and UniversityWhat's his real name ?Give me his real name, and then I may believe you.As long as I don't have a real name and/or where exactly I met him and/or what he was doing at that time, then it's too easy to invent bullshit.> • He told Me everything about You, And also I heard Your Voice in Zello When Swiss-carl has visited YouHe never visited me. AGain, it's too easy to invent bullshit without showing any proof.> Also: Swiss-carl knows Your Street Address, so What You'll think?Finding Someone's Street Address is impossible, even using IP lookupDon't play chimp with me please. It's extremely easy when you know where to look.Internet never forget, and knows much more than you think about me, about you, and about anyone of us.> Anyway: soon The QuentinC's Gameroom will be hackedCome on, we're waiting for you. There is now more than one year since you said that for the first time, and the playroom is still up.If you want to keep paying amazon servers and keep failing miserably, that's your problem and your money.Don't tell me that you didn't do that; I have logs.Basicly you're just doing virtual terrorismm; no more, no less.> Do You know that Paypal doesn't support many CountriesThat's one of the problem, sadly.But if it's the price of peace, then, we'll go for it. Unfortunately there are always left-behind people.However, there are probably solutions that are safe and legal to go around that. I couldn't imagine that India, north Africa and middle-east countries, which have quite a high Internet penetration, don't have any mean of buying something online.Perhaps the problem is the cost of life over there... $1 for them probably means a lot more then for us... but that's another problem.One thing is sure, the next important thing I will release won't be free. Never ever again. That was one of my great misstakes.The more I'm thinking about that, the more I understand Aprone's decision behind making Swamp paid, and why it was probably the best and fairest decision he could have taken against troublemakers.

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LOL: Street Gang?What are You writing aboutOur Team isn't a street gangBy The Way: Do You know that if The QuentinC's Gameroom became payed, The Members will be decreased?As I said: it's not easy to get Veeza in some Countries, and even There is no Veeza gifts for Some Countries as I heardWe are over 21 Years, And This team has many membersWe are doing good work to unban Fellow players Who got banned by Un-just, stupid and Jerk Zorvax, and also Stupid Aminiel who premoting These fucking Administrators and helpers

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At Aprone, +1 !!!About making the playroom payedabdulrahman, guess who would be to blame for such a measure? for the playroom being payed as swamp is now?You and da cheaf man,the boss the leader of your street gang and no one else.dilusional kid wrote:We are over 21 so We know What We are doingYou most certainly don't sound like you know even the k of know in what you are doing and not certainly 21.! but if you are, I pray for the hole world if there  are 21 year old people with the. mental capabilities similar to you and your so called team.doubt it though.

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About making the playroom payedabdulrahman, guess who would be to blame for such a measure? for the playroom being payed as swamp is now?You and da cheaf man,the boss the leader of your street gang and no one else.dilusional kid wrote:We are over 21 so We know What We are doingYou most certainly don't sound like you know even the k of know in what you are doing and not certainly 21.! but if you are, I pray for the hole world if there  are 21 year old people with the. mental capabilities similar to you and your so called team.doubt it though.

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That's not trueThey are My Friends, not fake People as You saidSwiss-carl is a Real Person so, enough lies HereAbout Random Bans, it isn't because of Me, it's simply because Aminiel's stupidity of premoting People who really don't trust Them as Admins or HelpersSwiss-carl has told Me that Aminiel isn't banning People by Randomand Here's the quote from His Message in Skype"carl carlos: Abdul: Aminiel isn't banning People randomly, Who banning People randomly are Mayya and Zorvax, and also Zorvax isn't normal, as I discovered: He insulted My Family"Here what did He sayAlso He has many scandles about Zorvax, but I won't share it Here

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That's not trueThey are My Friends, not fake People as You saidSwiss-carl is a Real Person so, enough lies HereAbout Random Bans, it isn't because of Me, it's simply because Aminiel's stupidity of premoting People who really don't trust Them as Admins or HelpersSwiss-carl has told Me that Aminiel isn't banning People by Randomand Here's the quote from His Message in Skype"carl carlos: Abdul: Aminiel isn't banning People randomly, Who banning People randomly are Mayya and Zorvax, and also Zorvax isn't normal, as I discovered: He insulted My Family"Here what did He sayAlso He has many scandles about Zorvaax, but I won't share it Here

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Hello guys , while i was posting about the same issue , i did got the second chance and now i am happy with playroom. I actually understand Aminiel completely , and do not believe anything this abdulrahman guy says. Basically , he is a guy pretending to have multiple friends , swisscarl and all of those are completely fake and are just himself. As ridiculous as it sounds , it's true and he even still comes to playroom with different personalities though there is no easy solution to bann him forever. Anyways if we ignore abdul , yes , some unfair banns did happen , but as Aminiel already said they mostly are because of him. Anyways , as hard as it is for Aminiel to manage the administratin , shutting pr down would really be a bad decision. Personally i am not sure are there technical possibilities to block VPN , but if yes Aminiel should do that because then Abdul will not be able to come back. Anyways good luck to Aminiel.

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But I'm Sure that Swiss-carl was Aminiel's friend, He told Me everything about AminielThey didn't drop Friendship because of Administration, The cheef boss: Gregory Sárközy has told Me that They have Personal reasons, also The main reason of dropping Friendship is simply because Aminiel has hacked into Carl's PC, Though, Though He didn't want to call Police beccause He wants The QuentinC's Gameroom to be alivealso: not sure if it's main reason or not, Because Gregory told Me that There are many Personal reasons@AproneI'm not Yung, also The Team MembersWe are over 21 so We know What We are doing

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But I'm Sure that Swiss-carl was Aminiel's friend, He told Me everything about AminielThey didn't drop Friendship because of Administration, The cheef boss: Gregory Gregory Sárközy has told Me that They have Personal reasons, also The main reason of dropping Friendship is simply because Aminiel has hacked into Carl's PC, Though, Though He didn't want to call Police beccause He wants The QuentinC's Gameroom to be alivealso: not sure if it's main reason or not, Because Gregory told Me that There are many Personal reasons@AproneI'm not Yung, also The Team MembersWe are over 21 so We know What We are doing

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But I'm Sure that Swiss-carl was Aminiel's friend, He told Me everything about AminielThey didn't drop Friendship because of Administration, The cheef boss: Gregory Gregory Sárközy has told Me that They have Personal reasons, also The main reason of dropping Friendship is simply because Aminiel has hacked into Carl's PC, Though, Though He didn't want to call Police beccause He wants The QuentinC's Gameroom to be alivealso: not sure if it's main reason or not, Because Gregory told Me that There are many Personal reasons

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Why do you think Aminiel cannot restore a ban list?  If it is even possible for a hack to clear the ban list (which seems unlikely), there is no reason on earth that Aminiel cannot just restore it.I have no idea whether Aminiel and your "boss" were friends, but I think it is hilarious that you are trying to use that information as evidence.  Do you seriously think that because someone finds out your phone number, email address, street address, or Anything else, that it means they were your friend?!  You must be joking!Abdulrahman, I am finally convinced that you must be a young child who just does not understand how many things work.  It sounds like this team/boss of yours has told you some things that sound amazing, and you believe them because you don't know any better.  I think it would be best if you stopped talking about these things because they are only making you personally look foolish.  The internet has a nasty w
 ay of remembering everything we ever post, so going on and on with these frankly embarrassing claims, is going to be something you regret later on.  Years from now when you've grown up a bit, you are going to wish you had never been so gullible, but sadly there will be a written record if it all.  I suggest you stop now and cut your losses.  The more you say, the more you will eventually regret.Look, we were all young kids at some point, and I understand that you don't yet know how to separate reality from fantasy.  It doesn't help matters that you probably have that team filling your head with nonsense.  Heck, for all we know that team might be just as young and naive, and are only telling you these things because they don't know any better either.The odds are pretty high that you'll read my suggestions, reject them, and reaffirm your position with a handful of new hollow claims/threats.  If that is how things end
  up going, then at least one day you'll remember that someone tried to talk you out of doing something stupid.

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Like I said in the privius post, no matter if that Carl was his friend, (which maybe isn't even true), Aminiel doesn't have any need to make him an admin because of it. If they would be true friends, Carl wouldn't drop their friendship because of not becoming an admin, and he wouldn't now want to hack the playroom. That's a bullshit excuse. I will become the best friends with aprone then. He'll surely make me an admin then, and if he doesn't, bye bye swamp. And fyi, that was a joke, I have nothing against swamp and no programing skills. If your "boss" really wants to hack Aminiel now, because he can't be an admin, well, then it's true, they never were friends. Even if they were classmates, even if your boss knows everything about him, they aren't friends.žMost of the people that got banned were banned for a reason. If they got unbanned playroom would become a shithole. But that's probably your gole anyway. Sure, the people might leave if your plan works, but they'll just go elsewhere, and soon you'll be the ony one that cares. Asooming Aminiel really does nothing, you'll just be able to play playroom with only your fiew friends and the bots for ever, a ghost of the past.

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About making The QuentinC's Gameroom payedDo You know that Paypal doesn't support many Countriesexample: Syria, Iraq, Tunisia, India, and There are many Countries wich no longer suported by PaypalAlso: There are many People who can't get Veeza card easilyexample: in Bahrain only 18 years or older can get Veeza card With Cundations•He/she should have about 400 USD per month or more• getting Veeza only in banks

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Even if We don't own The QuentinC's Gameroom after hacking in to it:, We'll simply clear The ban players list before doing anything so fellow People can Enter againAlso Aminiel can't Restore The Ban players listAbout Swiss-carl, The boss of The team was Your Friend: AminielBut Now You are no longer His Friend because You refused to give Him Administration permitionAnd: Are You sure that finding Your Phone Number, Your First and lastname is easy?If Yes: Swiss-carl knows everything about You•He studied with You in School and University• He told Me everything about You, And also I heard Your Voice in Zello When Swiss-carl has visited Youdon't pretend that Swiss-carl wasn't Your Friend, Because infact He' wasAlso: Swiss-carl knows Your Street Address, so What You'll think?Finding Someone's Street Address is impossible, even using IP lookupAnyway: soon The QuentinC's Gameroom will be hacked

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Even if We don't own The QuentinC's Gameroom after hacking in to it:, We'll simply clear The ban players list before doing anything so fellow People can Enter againAlso Aminiel can't Restore The Ban players listAbout Swiss-carl, The boss of The team was Your Friend: AminielBut Now You are no longer His Friend because You refused to give Him Administration permitionAnd: Are You sure that finding Your Phone Number, Your First and lastname is easy?If Yes: Swiss-carl knows everything about You•He studied with You in School and University• He told Me everything about You, And also I heard Your Voice in Zello When Swiss-carl has visited Youdon't pretend that Swiss-carl wasn't Your Friend, Because infact He'sAlso: Swiss-carl knows Your Street Address, so What You'll think?Finding Someone's Street Address is impossible, even using IP lookupAnyway: soon The QuentinC's Gameroom will be hacked

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Since he has shown that he supports and approves of the boss' plan to hack QuentinC's Playroom, I think abdulrahman should be shown the same opinion of hacking that audiogames.net showed Ethin.

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Posts #57 and #58. Go bakc read my post. I just posted a placeholder answer to make sure the topic won't be closed before I finish writing the actual response.

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and the dev just could comment like that? , [[wow]]

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

Hello all,OF course we are doing random ban, because we find that people on the earth are amazingly stupid, and we want that everybody leave the game. Bots are much more funier than real people, obviously.The whole world is boring and full of idiots. That's why I created bots.More seriously.Swiss karl isn't my friend. It's very easy to find my real name, postal address and even phone number if you know to look; I'm not hiding myself. Knowing this information don't prove in any way that you are indeed a friend of mine.I can say it, Swiss carl isn't my friend, and has never been.Do you really thing that we are banning people randomly ? Seriously ?If we are banning a lot of accounts, first think about the fact that's precisely because a couple of idiots are making trouble, and don't understand ban after ban that they should stop making trouble.At some point we will have to ban entire c
 ountries to have peace. Go explain to 99% of innocent people that they are banned because a single idiot doesn't give us another choice.Unfortunately if we want bans to be efficient, there are sometimes colateral effects, that's unavoidable.The initial poster of this topic may be one of these colateral victims, in which case I'm very sorry. IF you are a colateral victim and want to attack someone, head to the idiots who are making trouble, not the playroom team. wE are just trying to keep the place safe, spam-free and troublemakers-free; nothing else.Or he may be just a complaining idiot, banned for legitimate reason, and want to venge himself by yelling that we are bad people.Well... think what you want. We are good people for those who deserve it; but we are also bad people for who deserve it.IN any case, we aren't taking actions randomly; an effect always has a cause. I'm just tired of doing the police all the time m
 yself. At the end it might well be the case that I close the playroom entirely and send everybody to go f### themselves.  Or make it paid. I don't know.And, after all, this would mean the victory of the troublemakers. So, no; I won't close the playroom.In fact, only troublemakers should pay. From now on, I wwill accept unbanning people for money. $2 to divide your ban duration by two. It's still extremely sad that a majority of honnest people are always fooled by a minority of idiots.

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Since he has shown that he supports and approves of the boss' plan to hack QuentinC's Playroom, I think abdulrahman should be shown the same opinion of hacking that audiogames.net showed Ethin.I was considering joining QuentinC's Playroom to play some of the games, but right now it just sounds like yet another unsafe place to visit on the internet. So, I'll just pass.

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Hello all,Seriously.*TO BE EDITED*

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What this abdulrahman person brings to mind.Da boss says, we does, da boss and me gonna topple the government. we gonna have gud life after da boss and we do thisda boss and me gonna bring in new reforms, gud shinny cars and houses for allDa boss shall be the president, me da minster and there after joy shall be had by all and no one shall wheap or cry.omfg,  I'ma gonna bust a gut@abdulrahmanYour and your da boss's and the teams brain should be working at quite... how shall  I put it. a different level to even have come up with such utter tripe.Its beyond conceit to not just imagine or even! to hack a game but to believe as you guys do, that you shall not only hack the game,but reinstate yourselves as the admin's and that the players would not at all mind not to mention Aminiel would just take a d
 eep bow and say,you have bested me,sir the dame is now yours? Thank you abdulrahman for reinstating my belief in the stupidity,foolishness and self delusion of humanity.Bloody hell, either these guys are on drugs or they reside in a different world of their own.I would go as far as to call them nothing but children, but that would be insulting the mental Faculties of children for I can not even think of them as behaving like. these thugs. if even that would not be demeaning to the word thuggrryf

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Abdulrahman you and your team cannot really be this foolish can you?  Do you really imagine that after some magical hack, the playroom will suddenly be yours to set up however you like?  Hacking does not work that way sir.  Even if there is some crazy way Aminiel set up his server program that would allow you guys to change a few settings after a hack, all he has to do is go back to the server himself and reset it.  All work you guys would do could be undone in 10 seconds by him, and then he would just change passwords and code so you couldn't do the same thing again.The fact that you guys seem to believe you will "own" the playroom afterwards actually made me laugh out loud.  I don't think you have your feet planted in reality here.  Perhaps you have watched too many cheesy and made up television shows about "hackers", haha.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Thank you for giving us the complete transparency of your story, because now in Aminiel reads this thread, he'll know who to look out for. And he may read this thread. Thank you also for proposing the very reasonable power structure idea. Now let's just remove the hacking aspect, shall we? Just for the record, you don't need to be 18 to pay for Swamp. You can make a Paypal account when you're under 18, I've done it. It all depends on whether your parents decide to give you a debit card under age, and whether the bank/credit-union/other finance department supports the ability to create an account under 18. Paypal accounts are easy to set up when under 18. Even if you enter the wrong bit of information when asked for extra information, which only happens if you add money into your account by the way, and your account gets put in restricted mode, the only restriction is that you can't add money directly into your Paypal account. Hell, you can even buy a 
 Swamp subscription with one of those prepaid Visa giftcards! So no, if Playroom actually were to be made paid, that would not restrict it to just 18 and up, it would be all up to the people setting up the account, and whether they have any payment method available.

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Thank you for giving us the complete transparency of your story, because now in Aminiel reads this thread, he'll know who to look out for. And he may read this thread. Thank you also for proposing the very reasonable power structure idea. Now let's just remove the hacking aspect, shall we? Just for the record, you don't need to be 18 to pay for Swamp. You can make a Paypal account when you're under 18, I've done it. It all depends on whether your parents decide to give you a debit card under age, and whether the bank/credit-union/other finance department supports the ability to create an account under 18. Hell, you can even buy a Swamp subscription with one of those prepaid Visa giftcards! So no, if Playroom actually were to be made paid, that would not restrict it to just 18 and up, it would be all up to the people setting up the account, and whether they have any payment method available.

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The Story isn't changedThe Team's Boss has 2 reasons Why He'll hack into The QuentinC's GameroomThe Main Reason is that Aminiel has hacked into The Boss's PC in December 2012The Second Reason is That The democrasy will be restored after Hacking into The QuentinC's GameroomThe Boss told Me that after He hacked into The QuentinC's Gameroom, He'll doing The following Things:•Unbanning All Players•Changing The staff Members , and here are The Members of The New Staff•Administrators◦Carl Carlos AKA Swiss-carl◦Gregory Sárközy de Nagy-Bocsa AKA Gregory◦Bobo And His Brother: Bibo•Helpers in The English Comunity◦Abdulrahman◦Alex◦Bajy◦BajoThe  Helpers in other Languages won't change, except French if neadedAlso: The Boss will Add The Arabic Language to The QuentinC's Gameroom, and We have• a Very Active translator: Hamad AlkuwaityAlso: banning players will be changed•We won't believe any Reports from players who used F Four Key, until They send a History Report•after We receaved a History Report, We'll investigate and We'll take an action if need it• Also: before We'll take an Action: We'll do voting, only if We receaved a report from large Tablesalso: We'll worn the abuserif He/She has receaved 3 Wornings: And if He/She continues, We'll ban The AbuserThat's What We'll doMayana wrote:Ok, let me just post this sentance, from post 34, by abdulrahman.essam:"I have been accused of Moltiple Accounts, and That's not true"Oh sure it isn't, I'm sure that all those millions of spammer accounts that you enter playroom with every day and intentionaly spam with in the free tables, totally aren't yours. The accounts that come to our free tables when we are just trying to chat and not have spam, asking why we banned their grandfather, mother, sun, sister and millions of others family members. Accounts pretending to be from random places in the world, proving they are from there with google translate. There was even one from Slovenia (thanks a lot for that abdu And another, from I think it's post 38 by the same person:"Making The QuentinC's Gameroom payed won't help removing the Random bans, But It'll redoose spammers"I'm sure it will, because then you might maybe stop spamming, and then 80 % of spam will go away from playroom. Oh wait, who am I kidding? Corse you won't do that.First of All: I didn't enter to The QuentinC's Gameroom for a long Time, almost 2 years agoSo: I don't know What are You writing about, also I have only 1 Account and I didn't violate The QuentinC's Gameroom's Rules and Licence AgreementAnd I don't know Who's entering Your Tables and spammingand about making The QuentinC's Gameroom payed: It'll only redoose spammers to 20 Percent, not 80 PercentLets show an Example: SwampStill There are many cheaters, also It's only redoosed to 30 Percent When it's payedBTW: If The QuentinC's Gameroom became payed, People under 18 won't be able to register an Account ThereAlso: Paypal doesn't support many Countries, example: Iraq, Syria  and Tunisiaryok wrote:abdulrahman let's make things clear here shall we?I'm not in support of the unfair banns. However, the fact that you're talking about the playroom banning you and your friends is a  lie.it's true that you were banned from the playroom. However, your friends that you're talking about are fake. All of them are accounts created by you.Don't come here to victimize yourself and talk about hacking the playroom.Believe Me: I really have 1 AccountThey banned Me and My FriendsI'm accused of Moltiple Accounts, and This accuse isn't true at allThey banned My Friend Alex Vorsky from The United States, Bajy Brody and His Brother: Bajo Brody from Canada, Bobo and His Brother Bibo Marky from Switzerland, and Carl Carlos from Switzerland, simply known by His nickname Swiss-carlAlso: These stupid Admins didn't check Their IP and My IP, They simply banned Me Without any WorningsAnyway: There is also My Friend from Jorden got banned randomly, and The reason is reasonable reasonerror: You have been banned from The Server for The following Reason: Good Morning... This ban ends in 420 Days, 0 Hours and 0 MinutesAnyway: I hope that Aminiel will reply before He getting hackedWe now have hacking Tools thanks to New Member of My Team: Ethin The Great

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Abdul, I think you are going to forcefully unban someone without a permission, right?When I see this kind of posts, I always say, don't play this game, do, not, play, this, game. Do you think that hacking the playroom is going to solve anything? I don't think so, but I don't think that saying don't hack the game is not going to prevent you from hacking the game either, so do whatever you want, but take your responsibility when anything serious happens. Now I'd like to say one more thing in this post. Admins, please close this topic before any flame war starts. Thanks

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

abdulrahman let's make things clear here shall we?I'm not in support of the unfair banns. However, the fact that you're talking about the playroom banning you and your friends is a  lie.it's true that you were banned from the playroom. However, your friends that you're talking about are fake. All of them are accounts created by you.Don't come here to victimize yourself and talk about hacking the playroom.One more thing:Grow up.

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Ok, let me just post this sentance, from post 34, by abdulrahman.essam:"I have been accused of Moltiple Accounts, and That's not true"Oh sure it isn't, I'm sure that all those millions of spammer accounts that you enter playroom with every day and intentionaly spam with in the free tables, totally aren't yours. The accounts that come to our free tables when we are just trying to chat and not have spam, asking why we banned their grandfather, mother, sun, sister and millions of others family members. Accounts pretending to be from random places in the world, proving they are from there with google translate. There was even one from Slovenia (thanks a lot for that abdu And another, from I think it's post 38 by the same person:"Making The QuentinC's Gameroom payed won't help removing the Random bans, But It'll
  redoose spammers"I'm sure it will, because then you might maybe stop spamming, and then 80 % of spam will go away from playroom. Oh wait, who am I kidding? Corse you won't do that.And if I made a multi player game, just because soemone is my friend and we went to school togeather, that doesn't mean I'll give them the administrator rank. No matter how good friends we are, it's my game, if I think they can't handle responsibility good enough, it's my choice. And if they choose to be afended because of it and even clame they will hack me, then well, no. That's not a friend, and not someone I'd ever want to be friends with. That's just a person trying to use "friendship" to get what they want.

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Methinks I have some lemons I'm gonna start hacking at; it's a greater source of benefit and a much more convenient use of my efforts and hacking abilities.  Yes!  Life gave me lemons, I tell you!

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Abdulrahman you keep changing your story.  You are now saying that your team is going to hack Aminiel in order to restore some democracy.  You then immediately say that the main reason is because your "boss" wants revenge for being hacked himself.Can you even think of 1 realistic way that hacking the playroom would cause it to become a democracy?  A game is only run democratically if the owner decides it should be.  So unless Aminiel decide to let people vote on issues, then it isn't going to happen, ever.  Making Aminiel angry by damaging something he created will Never make him choose to give you what you want.  If you have some magic way that your team's plan will work, please let me know, because I'm curious.  Hahaha.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Sigh. I don't understand why blind people think they have to resort to hacking someone every time something doesn't go their way. It's either far more prevalent in our community, which, incidentally seems less and less like a community these days and more like some hostile part of the projects, or should I say rampant, than it should be, or I just haven't been hanging around sighted people who do that sort of thing.if you don't like the administration in the playroom, then don't play. And tell your friends not to play, who may tell their friends not to play, and maybe one of those friend of a friend of a friends posts a nice little rant on Twitter, and word starts to spread that the playroom is an untrustworthy place. At the very least, some will know to watch their back. Some won't believe you, and the story might change somewhere along the way anyway. But you'll have actually done damage by warning folks, because, over time, less an
 d less people will want to play.yeah, maybe a smear campaign isn't exactly the nicest or more mature thing to do, either, but it's better than possibly destroying someone's life by hacking them.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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I don't think so, because Aminiel is the First to attack My Bossand He also refused to give Him Administration permition

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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It's a case of revenge; plain and simple.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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That's isn't TrueWe are trying to restore The Democrasy in The QuentinC's Gameroom, like When it's started until 2012And also Aminiel has hacked My Boss's PC  in the Twenty sixth of december 2012 and He deleated everything, this is The Main reason Why The boss will hack The QuentinC's Gameroom's serverAminiel was Best friend of Swiss-carl, but When He refused to Premote Swiss-carl as an Administrator Swiss-carl became angry and He's no longer talk to Aminiel until 2014

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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So basically the name of your team is a flat out lie.  You are not interested in doing anything productive at all, all you want to do is cause trouble because you believe Aminiel deserves it.  Don't try to pretend that you guys are some sort of honorable outlaws, like Robin Hood figures.  You are just thugs looking for revenge because someone didn't do what you wanted them to do.  Pathetic.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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I don't care, This is Aminiel's fault of premoting someone as Administrator just to abuse His PowerThe boss is still thinking that He'll hack The QuentinC's Gameroom or notBut He'll hack The QuentinC's Gameroom soon with New Member: EthinAminiel also told The Pending Member: John Johnstan AKA Russian Stranger that He can publish The bad Things about The QuentinC's Gameroomso: it's also Aminiel's fault of decreasing Member in His Gameroom's Serverso: as I'm The Member of lets Restore democrasy in The QuentinC's Gameroom's team: I can't regect The Boss  Commands

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I don't care, This is Aminiel's fault of premoting someone as Administrator just to abuse His PowerThe boss is still thinking that He'll hack The QuentinC's Gameroom or notBut He'll hack The QuentinC's Gameroom soon with New Member: EthinAminiel also told The Pending Member: John Johnstan AKA Russian Stranger that He can publish The bad Things about The QuentinC's Gameroomso: it's also Aminiel's fault of decreasing Member in His Gameroom's Serverso: as I'm The Member of lets Restore democrasy in The QuentinC's Gameroom's team: I can't regect what the boss  commands

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Aprone's right. You can't fight immaturity with more immaturity. It's just gonna cause more of a disaster than there already is.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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How exactly does hacking the gameroom cause a change in the administration?!  That doesn't make any sense!  Causing trouble for Aminiel is not going to convince him to give you guys what you're asking for.Causing Aminiel trouble is only going to make him angry with you.  When someone is angry, they will intentionally NOT give you what they know you want.  The more hacking people do of his playroom, the more he will continue to do things you hate.  Even if it means making everything paid, or shutting it all down, he is not going to decide to give you what you want after you cause him grief.I can't figure out how your little team cannot understand this.  Even children usually understand this.  You cannot get your way by pissing off the person who you need cooperation from.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Aprone wrote:Abdulrahman, I need to ask this...How will hacking QuentinC's gameroom get anybody unbanned?  That does not make any sense at all.  The most you could possibly accomplish would be to convince Aminiel that he needs to switch to paid accounts or to just close down the play room entirely.  There is nothing you guys can do that will actually get you what you're trying to get.  Your little team needs to take a realistic look at what you're trying to accomplish.Making The QuentinC's Gameroom payed won't help removing the Random bans, But It'll redoose spammersAminiel Should removed Zorvax from The Moderation, cause He's The only person who banning Random People everydaySwiss-carll tried to Contact Aminiel using The contact form in The QuentinC's Gameroom's Website but He didn't replyI contacted My team'
 ;s Boss: Swiss-carll about This Idea and He regectedHe also told Me that hacking The QuentinC's Gameroom is the only way to change The Administration, since Aminiel won't sell The Domain and The Server to swiss-carlBTW: Swiss-carl was Aminiel's FriendHe studied with Him in School and also He's studied with him in The University

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as I said, try sending hoards upon hoards of zombies their way instead! 

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Abdulrahman, I need to ask this...How will hacking QuentinC's gameroom get anybody unbanned?  That does not make any sense at all.  The most you could possibly accomplish would be to convince Aminiel that he needs to switch to paid accounts or to just close down the play room entirely.  There is nothing you guys can do that will actually get you what you're trying to get.  Your little team needs to take a realistic look at what you're trying to accomplish.

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hmm. I suppose the last post could be easily ignored by many, for it seems to come from someone who's well, --- popular among playroom users, for --- who knows what.

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hello thereI suppose there was no need to create this topic on here, let alone the tools business and other arguments and so on. besides, the topic didn't seem to help the person who was banned from the playroom, accept for a subsequent ban which took place because of this discussion on the unfair ban itself!well the thing is, whether one writes about that ban on a forum post or involves his friends into an adventure like the one above, the end results may not always be desirable. think about a scenario when a few people get motivated and start causing trouble for playroom server. whatever is likely to happen should not only mean that they were responsible to some extent but also undesirable consequences arising because of their actions. suppose the developer gets frustrated and shuts playroom down way before he actually planned to do so. forget banned a
 ccounts, but that way others wouldn't be able to enjoy nearly a dozen games that it had to offer. so definitely it might not be a good alternative. writing that on the thread doesn't add any value either. I can easily write on here, hey I have the imaginary tools... I should send a large taskforce comprised of giant, destructive demons down their way and cause whatever suffering the demons have in store for those mods (haha). but that doesn't change a thing about current position of playroom as well as those so-called operators on there. any more ideas? how about summoning other creatures? dragons? zombies? elves? vampires? for this wonderful task. anyways, I can't say about all others but I don't play the games too often. I was able to get in
 to a conversation with an operator at one point while reporting a user who was deliberately crashing other people's eloquence by writing strings etc. the mod there did not only replied in English but also suggested to send proper history report according to client options and  also acknowledged it. I also encountered an English speaking operator on other occasion. I guess I've been lucky both the times well as the saying goes, --- life just goes on.regards.sid

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Hi:This is not The First Time that Administrators of The QuentinC's Gameroom are banning Random People without any Reasonable Rreasons, and I'm one of Them who got bannedI have been accused of Moltiple Accounts, and That's not truealso: They have banned My best Friends for Same Reason and They think that My Friends are My Accounts, Though They didn't check IP Address of Me and My FriendsMy Friend Swiss-carl AKA Carl-Carlos is The only friend Who evaided The BansAnd He created a New Account just to Contact One of Available developers, Administrators and Helpers of The QuentinC's GameroomBut They always banning HimAlso: Swiss-carl has told Me that The Administrators of The QuentinC's Gameroom aren't respectfull, and They insulted Him in the Message of Reason of The banAlso: Swiss-carl continued creating accounts until April 2014, Also Aminiel told Him before in march 2014 that He can't ban Him or do anything, and Swiss-carl told Him that banning People without reasons won't work, then He didn't reply, then He banned Swiss-carl When He's playing ScopaSwiss-carl's Friend: Gregory Sárközy de Nagy-Bocsa has told Swiss-carl that Hacking The QuentinC's Gameroom is The best SelutionHe also said that The QuentinC's Gameroom should be hacked an order to Unban fellow PlayersThey formed a very small team called lets restore the Democrasy in The QuentinC's Gameroom, and lately I joined This teamThe Members of The team are: Bosses: Swiss-carl: The boss, Gregory Sárközy de Nagy-Bocsa, His Helper, Members: Me, Alex, Bobo and BiboBut still This team is SmallBut now We are getting support from ethin, and We agree that Ethin is hacking The QuentinC's Gameroom for doing a great work to unban Random Peoplealso: in July 30th 2016: My Brother: I won't tell His Username in The QuentinC's Gameroom, has recently discovered that Who's doing  The random bans aren't The Helpers of The English comunity of The QuentinC's GameroomThe Administrator or known as so called Accounts Hunter who's doing random ban is ZorvaxAnd still the Story isn't ended yetAlso it's not a Full storyI hope that Aminiel will reply before He getting hacked

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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hello thereI suppose there was no need to create this topic on here, let alone the tools business and other arguments and so on. besides, the topic didn't seem to help the person who was banned from the playroom, accept for a subsequent ban which took place because of this discussion on the unfair ban itself!well the thing is, whether one writes about that ban on a forum post or involves his friends into an adventure like the one above, the end results may not always be desirable. think about a scenario when a few people get motivated and start causing trouble for playroom server. whatever is likely to happen should not only mean that they were responsible to some extent but also undesirable consequences arising because of their actions. suppose the developer gets frustrated and shuts playroom down way before he actually planned to do so. forget banned a
 ccounts, but that way others wouldn't be able to enjoy nearly a dozen games that it had to offer. so definitely it might not be a good alternative. writing that on the thread doesn't add any value either. I can easily write on here, hey I have the imaginary tools... I should send a large taskforce comprised of giant, destructive demons down their way and cause whatever suffering the demons have in store for those mods (haha). but that doesn't change a thing about current position of playroom as well as those so-called operators on there. any more ideas? how about summoning other creatures? dragons? zombies? elves? vampires? for this wonderful task. anyways, I can't say about all others but I don't play the games too often. I was able to get in
 to a conversation with an operator at one point while reporting a user who was deliberately crashing other people's eloquence by writing strings etc. the mod there did not only spoke English but also suggested to send proper history report according to client options and  also acknowledged it. I also encountered an English speaking operator on other occasion. I guess I've been lucky both the times well as the saying goes, --- life just goes on.regards.sid

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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hello thereI suppose there was no need to create this topic on here, let alone the tools business and other arguments and so on. besides, the topic didn't seem to help the person who was banned from the playroom, accept for a subsequent ban which took place because of this discussion on the unfair ban itself!well the thing is, whether one writes about that ban on a forum post or involves his friends into an adventure like the one above, the end results may not always be desirable. think about a scenario when a few people get motivated and start causing trouble for playroom server. whatever is likely to happen should not only mean that they were responsible to some extent but also undesirable consequences arising because of their actions. suppose the developer gets frustrated and shuts playroom down way before he actually planned to do so. forget banned accounts, but that way others wouldn't be able to enjoy nearly a dozen games that it had to offer. so defin
 itely it might not be a good alternative. writing that on the thread doesn't add any value either. I can easily write on here, hey I have the imaginary tools... I should send a large taskforce comprised of giant, destructive demons down their way and cause whatever suffering the demons have in store for those mods (haha). but that doesn't change a thing about current position of playroom as well as those so-called operators on there. any more ideas? how about summoning other creatures? dragons? zombies? elves? vampires? for this wonderful task. anyways, I can't say about all others but I don't play the games too often. I was able to get into a conversation with an operator at one point while reporting a user who was delebrately crashing other peopl
 e's eloquence by writing strings etc. the mod there did not only spoke English but also suggested to send proper history report according to client options and  also acknowledged it. I also encountered another English speaking operator on another occasion. I guess I've been lucky both the times well as the saying goes, --- life just goes on.regards.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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I tend to think that if a person is crowing about what they can do, they most likely can. Nobody bluffs that well, especially on a public forum where potentially thousands of people can call them out on it if they don't follow through with what they say they're going to do.Back to the topic, even if you have doubts that the person in question was banned for a legitimate reason, you can tell that this isn't the case by one simple fact. No admin in their right mind would just pull a random number out of their ass like 6939 days. That's ridiculous, and is a shining example of extreme immaturity. Either give a reasonable ban or a lifetime ban, but don't flaunt your power like a child who thinks he's big and bad because he stole a candy bar from the store and didn't get caught.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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To date I have never done anything with QuentinC's Playroom, mainly because I wasn't aware of it until I saw it in threads like this one on this forum.After reading the description of it in the games database, I'm still not sure what is so great about it that everyone wants to go back to it after they've been banned, So far, with what little I know about it, the only thing about it that attracts me is that they have an accessible Mille Bornes, that is my favorite card game and I'd love to have an accessible version of it.Some of the other games might be fun to play too. If I ever go there, my only reason for being there at all would be the games.

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Thanks, Arq.  Trust me, it wasn't an easy decision to make, but what did solidify it for me was actually post 2, where Ethin said that he didn't want to say he would do out here for fear of being banned, which tells me he was fully aware that his frame of thinking was, at the very least, unethical and how we might react to it.

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Hi, i as a fellow mod, support Nocturnus in this matter. Ethin threatened to hack a platform, and we do not tolerate that kind of behavior on this forum. It's much like if people threatened to hack Swamp, people would be crying for action to be taken, and rightfully so.

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@Figment,Precisely.  The user has the ability to say no, we will not use your platform for whatever reason, effectively turning the developer into another computer programmer who means little and has disappeared into obscurity.  But they must be doing something right over there, given how badly everyone wants to go back.For my part, I'm a lot like @pitermach and don't usually just blast into someone else's games and expect to be willingly accepted into the crowd.  I'm usually the guy creating games and suggesting another method for communication's sake, usually something like TeamTalk will suffice, but skype is not beneath or beyond me, nor is ventrillo if I really want to talk to you.I'm gonna have a stab at what I really think is going on and make myself more hated in the process, but this is honestly just my humble opinion.  Language and cultural barriers... Tons of them!  When you try to cater to such a m
 assive audience and you don't have an official language with which you can conduct public relations and exercise crowd  and damage control it creates a sort of free-for-all environment.  For people like myself who don't actually go in to have extensive conversations and are simply there for the games this doesn't pose much of an issue.  The worst thing that's happened to me is that I haven't played for a set amount of time and my account has been deleted, but that's ok, because creating an account is as simple as eating pie.

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Nocturnus wrote:As far as I know QC is still provided free of charge, and as such, I don't see how any of us have the right to dictate what the administration panel does or does not allow, and we have even less right to attempt to enforce it.Absolutely! At the end of the day, regardless of whether their game is free or not, the only point that matters is that it is their web site, so they can do whatever they want with it. Of course if they keep doing unpopular things like unwarranted bans, they will soon find their web site has become a ghost town.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Alright everyone, Nocturnus did have a valid reason to do that. Just for the record, this isn't the first time Ethin has been banned either, but lte's get to the main point here. Ethin, while there's no telling if he'd actually do it, has openly threatened to hack the playroom if he feels necessary. As unnecessary and ridiculous as Tyson's ban from the playroom was, and all others who got banned in this similar way, threatening to hack is equally just as wrong. This situation needs to be handled maturely. Yes, these moderators may be immature, they may be power=hungry abusers, but that doesn't mean be immature right back to them. Sure, they may not allow you to talk to them, but that doesn't mean ram your message down the playroom's throat either in the form of hacking. In fact as far as the moderators there are concerned, doing that would just fuel their fire, in deed it's likely that so much as attempting to hack the platform would ba
 ckfire, getting you legitimately banned. Instead, contact Aminiel about it. I am sure he will be fair as far as these bans are concerned, and straighten them out.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Alright everyone, Nocturnus did have a valid reason to do that. Just for the record, this isn't the first time Ethin has been banned either, but lte's get to the main point here. Ethin, while there's no telling if he'd actually do it, has openly threatened to hack the playroom if he feels necessary. As unnecessary and ridiculous as Tyson's ban from the playroom was, and all others who got banned in this similar way, threatening to hack is equally just as wrong. This situation needs to be handled maturely. Yes, these moderators may be immature, they may be power=hungry abusers, but that doesn't mean be immature right back to them. Sure, they may not allow you to talk to them, but that doesn't mean ram your message down the playroom's throat either in the form of hacking. Instead, contact Aminiel about it. I am sure he will be fair as far as these bans are concerned, and straighten them out.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Hi I never played in QCP and never play it. however nockterness sir! I only say one thingbe objective and be neutral ThanksIshan

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Ahoy allI thought twice I shouldn't be writing/ replying to this topic, but in the end decided that I'd rather say what I want to say,rather than staying quiet on this matter.QCP is a game provided for free,with no additional requirements from the end user. as such you being allowed to play is a privilege not a right.Therefore, people should at least if nothing else keep a civil tongue (fingers in this case I guess?  ) when writing to or at the developerhence People demanding that you come ahead,talk to us or get rid of so and so problem, else I'ma gonna... you know oh so mysterious you...I find really childish and offensive not to mention certain other words.@SLJ, I'd like to point out to you the post by Nocturnus in which the moderation notice as to ethin being ban was posted.you're right, he hadn't if that c
 ould be said to be that, done anything but threaten a community member/developer in this case with using his mighty tools,which would/could adversely affect the game in question. (doubt it,though)Consider this, if you willI write a post on the swamp topic or anywhere else on the forums saying that since I really dislike the way Aprone smells I want him to smell good and leave the forums else I'll you know... use my mighty tools of bluster and childishness and hack into swamp and give away accounts to peopleJoking aside, if I write I'll crack a game or dDOS a online game for any reason, people could mail me for the keys or such or indicate that I would unless something were done wouldn't you want me ban,too?whatever it is that people do outside the forums , I could care less, but when you speak of it on these forums I consider it more than far
 e to be kicked out.Geting back to the topic which the OP posted, QC has had these topics brought up before, and the developer has also responded on these topics, so people ought to perhaps read those before starting up a similar topic.Because the developer as far as I remember it, would prefer that people contact him privately and no that's not only QCp, but e-mail etc, and he could look into it for the person concerned.He also has posted his reasons for the moderator teams as it stands and what difficulty he has in getting new ones.That said, if you really have such a problem with how QCP is run,why not try its alternatives?Its not like we have nonegrryf

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Banning Ethin from the forum doesn't help. He'll just create an other account which he have said in other topics. That is, if he can do all what he is saying... I think the ban is quite unfair. Ethin did only talk about the possibilities, he didn't do anything. He didn't got any warning, so he haven't got a chance to explain himself.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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As a platform, I definitely prefer the playroom over RS games, simply because there is more games and more variants (Uno with all the intercept options turned on really requires speed and reflexes to be good at). Whenever I play there, I'm in a private game talking to people over TeamTalk so I haven't dealt with either the community or admins. So as a neutral observer I keep seeing this issue with the QC moderators popping up perhaps it may be time to consider talking to those people or just finding someone more reasonable. I would be glad to help, but I'm not on the playroom too often so I couldn't do as good of a job as this would demand

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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hello.I am going to say what I have said before on this issue, because apparently it keeps popping up.As a developer, I really think amaneel needs to take these issues seriously, rather than leaving everything up to the moderators. If the moderators are going to ban someone, they need to have a good reason for doing so. I am not saying this ban was necessary, nor am I saying it wasn't necessary, because I don't know either. But judging by the first post, it appears that the user in question did not get a chance to explain himself and justify his ban.For this reason, as stated above, amaneel really needs to look into what his moderators are doing.I'm not trying to start a flame war, just expressing my opinion, because I am upset at what has happened, and think the user should get a fair chance to explain themselves, and justify wether or not that ban was necessary.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Well, I don't know why admins ban people for no reason. Guys, the only thing you can do is, don't play this game.

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Ah. Just some more idiotic management from the playroom. See, I try to be a reasonable person, which is why I myself wouldn't cause harm to the playroom. Honestly, I just stay away from it because, in all honesty, it is really just a slab of code on the net that anyone else with legitimate coding knowledge could write. In otherwords, something like the Quentin C Playroom could be redone if it's wanted that badly. But all I will say, is this whole team of moderation disgusts me

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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And a possibility we do not advocate nor wish to stand by, thus the reason for his ban.  It would be a slap to the face of any online developer were audiogames net to even so much as hint that such action is tolerated by this community, and not having done something about it would be a form of tolerance.  The ban shall stand, unless someone over myself and or with a reason greater than all I have posted above should feel the need to lift it.Taking a step back from the moderation panel for the amount of time that I did has allowed me a bit more insight into the obvious, which is that as long as we allow perception to dictate reality rather than seeking objective truth as best we can, we can go around for hours and hours on any topic and get nowhere.  What we don't know is why situations are being handled on QC the way they are.  We can guess, but we don't know, and it doesn't do us any good to simply state how we feel and call that knowledge
 .  What we do know is that a user has said he is not above hacking the platform because he and many like him feel deserving of answers and results.  As far as I know QC is still provided free of charge, and as such, I don't see how any of us have the right to dictate what the administration panel does or does not allow, and we have even less right to attempt to enforce it.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Hi.at nocturnus, with all due respect, but I think the banning of ethin was seriously out of order.Ok, I have to admit, hacking something isn't the best solution, but he was just saying this to prove his point, he wasn't trying to get anyone on his side, it was just a possibility he was playing out here.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Oh my God, I  don't know what pisses me off more. the lack of care of the mods in there, or people like Ethan who believes that taking the justice by his hands is the best thing. Heck, doing things that way will, and I'll say it again, will, never, work! How is it possible that someone believes that violence gets solved with violence? I mean come onn! lets reason a little bit, shall we?And I tell you, back in the days when Swamp was free I remember that this guy who hacked the server, who even had an account here, did a lot of damage, resulting in most of us losing  our hard earned stuff and aprone making the decision he had to make. But heck, this guy? come onn he's a dog who only barks, but cannot bite! Now don't get me wrong, I'm not justifying this illegal way of doing things, I'm just saying that if someone's gonna do something, does not goes publicly  I have tools and this is what I'm gonna do-saying

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MODERATION!I have banned the user Ethin.  Posts 10 and 12 are indicative of causing harm to a gaming platform, whatever the reason or intent might be.  As this community and its moderators are devoted to productivity and keeping audiogaming alive for us all, I can hardly see any good from such tirades and, as Figment has wisely pointed out in post 14, such moves are illegal, which we do NOT!  Condone!

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@EthinWhat you are apparently proposing is more than likely illegal, that isn't going to solve anything, in fact it will more than likely inflame the issue, plus, two wrongs don't make a right, or put another way, and eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.What I don't understand is, if the moderators there are a problem, why subject yourself to them by going there?

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Hi.Well, the thing is, what can we actualy do? I havn't been banned from the playroom yet, but hey, maybe they will find a reason to ban me, I don't know what is going on in their heads these days.But at ethin, as long as you don#t step over the legal boundarys, well, they have nothing in their hands to sue your or something like that.But, would you mind telling me what we could do? I don't have any programming, knolledge, so hacking into the server or something like that aint possible for me.

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@Timberwolf1991, I did ask that the admin step forward and explain this issue to us. I even went on the playroom and asked if I could discuss this issue. Guess what? No response. And Timberwolf1991, never say that I can't hack into the playroom. I have some tools that certainly can do that. I just have to use them in the right order. However, I'll be nice and not do it yet. I have my own way of doing things, you know. And they don't all revolve around hacking. Seeing as no one else has stepped forward or done anything about it, why shouldn't I? If no one does anything about it then this issue will never be resolved. And seeing as the admin likes to sit back and do nothing about it, and the moderators are his closest friends who could care less about the players who they administer and moderate, it seems like a player must do something about it. I know that my way is harsher than some, but a simple question to the moderators and administrators (or "operator
 s" as the playroom calls them) gets no response, indicating to me that the moderators don't actually care about anyone but themselves, and all they want is power. If the only way to show them that they need to stop being rude to everyone and start giving us some answers is to force them to do so, then someone has to do it. At least, that seems to be like the only way, because they won't talk to anyone, and they won't undo the ban unless, again, someone forces them to do so. If you can provide me with another way, please tell me, because hacking the playroom seems to be the only way to get them to talk.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Sorry, this is all amusing.Let's fight fire with fire because that's all most know how to do. Instead of, you know, maybe asking for an explanation, trying to discuss things with the moderators etc.Keep at it! in 6 months, the playroom will become pay to use, just like swamp! Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, considering the ridiculous price RS games decided to charge for the iOS games, with no port (and no plans to port, based on the company they decided to partner with) to android.PS: If you didn't catch the first few lines were sarcasm. The likelyhood of anyone actually getting into the playroom is next to none. Which is why I started my post off the way I did.But enjoy hacking, bro! We're all trembling in our high heals.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

Sorry, this is all amusing.Let's fight fire with fire because that's all most know how to do. Instead of, you know, maybe asking for an explanation, trying to discuss things with the moderators etc.Keep at it! in 6 months, the playroom will become pay to use, just like swamp! Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, considering the ridiculous price RS games decided to charge for the iOS games, with no port (and no plans to port, based on the company they decided to partner with) to android.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

As I said, though, If this isn't corrected soon, I'll ensure that it certainly is corrected, in my own way. I have tools that allow me to do some very... interesting... things.  I am getting tired of these moderators acting like idiots and giving the stupidest reasons for banning people. Abuse? Abuse! What the hell does that even mean? This seems to bring me back to the original never-ending unanswerable questions of life: Abuse of what, where, when, why, how, and who?We can't answer what, because the moderators will never allow us to even talk to them.We can answer when: Thursday, August 11, 2016 6:18:59 PM CSTWe can't answer why and how, because, again, the mods won't let us talk to them about it.And we can't answer who because who doesn't really pertain to this issue.So, Aminiel, if you want nothing bad to happen to y
 our little playroom, start giving us some answers and doing something about this issue, or your going to have a very bad problem on your hands. As I said in post two, I'm tired of this issue and will forcefully correct it if I must.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

And here we go again. It happened to me, on the spanish side of it, nothin weird that the story gets repeated

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

Ah, subjective reality... Ya gotta love it!

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

Unfortunately, this is not the first, or one of the first, occasions such a ridiculous ban happened for no good reason. Even if some people I know were banned for a reason, the admins and mods never gave them a proper, fair, deserved chance to discuss it, or at least a solid, plausible explanation for why they chose this decision. The mods don't athere to their own rules either, fail to issue warnings or anything like that and immediately throw bans left and right, abusing their own power and specifying the vague word abuse as a reason for the ban. And people are expected to accept that and consider them an authority to be respected... More often than not, such an unfair ban gets lifted in a few days, when dozens of other people who know the unfairly banned one get involved, then, several days or weeks or months later, this same person gets banned again, and it all goes on again and again and again in exactly the same way forever, in a never ending circle. Cases like this cou
 ld be named for days, involving dozens of different unfairly banned people without any exageration, and Aminiel apparently does nothing about it. Perhaps the mods are his personal friends or whatever and the trust he gives them is based on no real accomplishments, or perhaps he is just too busy programming the thing and feels stepping between the mods and the players is something he's not willing to do. Now, we probably need king Solomon to tell us what would be the best possible thing to do here.Lukas

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

What? the moderators just banning random people?

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

Have you contacted the Playroom about this to ask what you have done wrong?

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

don't mean to laugh but 6,939 days lmaooo.even Tysons children children will be band lol

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

holy shit this issue again?[[wow]] the moderator are seriously... and it seams the dev doesn't care at all , bla

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

This sounds like a direct attack on Tyson himself. (And you wonder why the Playroom is so unpopular. It's because (excuse my language) the idiotic administrator of the entire server does not know how to properly administrate anything and thinks that we can just "talk about it with the mods themselves" (when the mods that usually ban people are non-English speaking mods, so we can't exactly hold a conversation with them)). I don't mean to be rude, but this is the (I think) third unfair ban that I've seen. It's quite stupid, honestly. It just shows that not everyone can be trusted when it comes to the administration of a game. Oh, and 6,939 days? That's about 19.01 years. This is why I'm pissed. The playroom won't be around after that ban is gone. That means that Tyson is being banned from ever enjoying the playroom again, all because of some stupid admin who thinks that they can do whatever they want. (If this is not so, please give
  me a very, very good explanation on why this happened.) If this is not corrected (the reason "abuse" means nothing to me and does not say why Tyson was banned) then I will take matters into my own hands, and, believe me, I can get quite nasty when that happens. I won't say what I'll do because I don't want to get banned from the forum for telling you guys what I may do, but I will do it if I have to get Tyson unbanned. I am tired of this issue and it is time to fix it. Permanently.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

This sounds like a direct attack on Tyson himself. (And you wonder why the Playroom is so unpopular. It's because (excuse my language) the idiotic administrator of the entire server does not know how to properly administrate anything and thinks that we can just "talk about it with the mods themselves" (when the mods that usually ban people are non-English speaking mods, so we can't exactly hold a conversation with them)). I don't mean to be rude, but this is the (I think) third unfair ban that I've seen. It's quite stupid, honestly. It just shows that not everyone can be trusted when it comes to the administration of a game. Oh, and 6,939 days? That's about 19.01 years. This is why I'm pissed. The playroom won't be around after that ban is gone. That means that Tyson is being banned from ever enjoying the playroom again, all because of some stupid admin who thinks that they can do whatever they want. (If this is not so, please give
  me a very, very good explanation on why this happened.) If this is not corrected (the reason "abuse" means nothing to me and does not say why Tyson was banned) then I will take matters into my own hands, and, believe me, I can get quite nasty when that happens.

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Re: QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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Re: QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

This sounds like a direct attack on Tyson himself. (And you wonder why the Playroom is so unpopular. It's because (excuse my language) the idiotic administrator of the entire server does not know how to properly administrate anything and thinks that we can just "talk about it with the mods themselves" (when the mods that usually ban people are non-English speaking mods, so we can't exactly hold a conversation with them)). I don't mean to be rude, but this is the (I think) third unfair ban that I've seen. It's quite stupid, honestly. It just shows that not everyone can be trusted when it comes to the administration of a game.

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QuentinC's playroom unfair ban

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QuentinC's playroom  unfair ban

hello I am not necessarily complaining but I am writing this post to let you all know what happened. Apparently  I have been banned because when I went to go open Quentin see today I got the following message "You have been banned from the server for the following reason: abuse.This ban ends in 6939 days, 9 hours and 25 minutes.  " although I did nothing wrong at all I did not even get an official administrative warning thank you all for reading

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