Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sam Smith via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all all of these devices, i cannot buy them, and i don't have the opportunity to buy them, they are too expensive, i don't know why, i maybe because no one produces them except a few agencies. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554208/#p554208

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Hmm, makes sense.Thanks for all the info URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553995/#p553995 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Windows already has an X86 emulator for Arm distributions. See here.  Overall I'm not sure why this didn't get more coverage.  Mac probably has the same thing for their upcoming switch.  Old audiogames will probably mostly work fine, and I believe

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @38 Do you know how games will be able to move over to ARM? Would it be x86 emulation as you described?Wonder how that'd work for our old accessible games URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553983/#p553983 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @NevEd: Arm will probably end up fully replacing the general consumer market first before it ever replaces the business installations/power users, if it ever does. Most general consumers don't care what architecture is running, or sdk's, or what

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Hey, I didn't know this existed, thanks for enlightening me! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553954/#p553954 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : UltraLeetJ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all NevEd wrote:Now if we could just bring braille displays down in price, that'd be great. Or make it so that you can open your old brf files on a computer without paying some stuck in the past company hundreds of dollars that, lets just face

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @34 Agree 100%. In regards to ARM though, do you really think it'll become mainstream to the point where it will replace x86 all together? I've kind of been laughing at the prospect ever since I heard of it so I'm not as informed about it as you

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @NevEd: I think even FS knows that JAWS is a dying breed in the consumer sector at least. That's why they're trying to branch out and get JAWS or derivative works of JAWS in other applications, such as JAWS Keyosc and the like. Once Windows 10 Arm

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @32 Thankfully the idea of specialised overpriced crap for people with disabilities, or at least blindness, is dying. JAWS is slowly dying. The business model gets more and more obsolete the better NVDA gets. I know there are some FS loyalists

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TheTrueSwampGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all hmm, I think i'll chime in. I don't agree with the high price tags that a lot of companies are putting on things, like JAWS, note takers, etc. I haven't had many humanware products, I only have one and its a Victor Reader Stream. I might use it mroe

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-19 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : NevEd via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all This reminds me of a few BN related bugs that never, never got fixed between my uses of the mpower and apex.When creating a new document, if you used backspace+enter+S to go to the calculater, when you returned back to the document, everything you

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all While I agree with the sentiments given that HUmanware doesn't always make good on their promises, I do have to also second the points people have made that there are other forces at bay here. Here's one way they could lower the price, ditch Audible

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : matt1211 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Personally, I actually do. Or did at least, when apple stopped supporting fairly recent devices. They don't do this as much anymore as far as I know but still.It's fucking annoying when any device is no longer supported. The fact that we have to pay

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : techmaster20 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all alright. Here's my two cents. Yeah, the phone es great, but what ever happened to it being a phone? Gps apps on both iOS and android all drain the crap out of the battery. Not only that but they all require data as well as gps to give directions

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : superb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @UltraLeetJ,I agree that this sort of business model needs to stop. If these devices would be put on lower-price tags, this could affect multiple areas of daily life, like employment and personal enjoyment. Employers could no longer make the excuse

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : UltraLeetJ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Lucas1853 wrote:For me, this is a case of not really caring for change for the sake of change. When my stream breaks, then I might start using my phone for this stuff. I respect the gripes people have with the products not doing things

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : superb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @Nolan,Thanks for clarifying your point. Yes, I completely agree that if more people feel that changes should be made in the pricing of various products, especially those in the Assistive Technology industry, change will occur. I just want to make

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : matt1211 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Hey, fair enough. It's just why I'm not using them now. There are people who will want a separate device for things, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. The main things that bother me about these companies are the price tags

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nolan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @22 To be clear, the extra device shouldn't cost more than a few hundred bucks at most. I'm not arguing that $1000 audio players and $1500 GPSs are a good thing. I'm just arguing for separate devices, not exorbitant pricetags. URL: https

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : matt1211 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all iPhone, plus extra battery, is as cheep as $1000, give or take a hundred or so. While the glass thing I'll grant you, I don't agree that these devices serve much of a purpose anymore for what they say they do. The VR trek costs nearly that much

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nolan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @18 Agreed entirely. What I'm trying to say is that, in my experience, Humanware has a decades-long track record of ignoring actionable feedback, even if put respectfully. At the time, they had two blind developers specifically pointing out issues

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all The Victor Reader does offline stuff extremely well. I'm more concerned with online, as that was the entire point of the refreshed model. However, they haven't done anything of significance since 2017. The features I'd like aren't groundbreaking

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all The Victor Reader does offline stuff extremely well. I'm more concerned with online, as that was the entire point of the refreshed model. However, they haven't done anything of significance since 2017. The features I'd like aren't groundbreaking

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all The Victor Reader does offline stuff prety great. I'm more concerned with online, as that was the entire point of the refreshed model. However, they haven't done anything of significance since 2017. The features I'd like aren't groundbreaking

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : serrebi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all In 2020, No one should feel that have to switch from what works for them, if you spend your own money on it. Some people just prefer a blindness device over an iPhone or something. As for funding, I can see an argument for the 3rd gen with wifi

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : serrebi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all No one should feel that have to switch from what works for them, if you spend your own money on it. Some people just prefer a blindness device over an iPhone or something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553414/#p553414 -- Audiogames

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : superb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @Nolan,I agree that every company needs to improve, HumanWare being no exception to this. To improve, though, I think that disgruntled users of a company always need to try and maintain a tone of respect, and if they are to become particularly

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : superb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @Nolan,I agree that every company needs to improve, HumanWare being no exception to this. To improve, though, I think that disgruntled users of a company always need to try and maintain a tone of respect, and if they are to become particularly

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nolan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all It's all well and good to say "my phone does everything, why would I want anything else?" Then, after a day of doing everything, your phone craps out when you want to read a book, or navigate to that new restaurant, or...I can see

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : bryant via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all I agree with what Superb has said.I own a victor reader treck, as well as a second generation stream for backup purposes.Regarding the FM radio support, i'm not sure humanware can be entirely be blamed for this. The reason I say this is that I

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : superb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @TheTechGuy,I think it depends on what you want to do, and how you wish to access the details. I, for example, respect the capability that the phone or computer can offer me, but I also want to appreciate the experience with Braille under my

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : thetechguy via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all I don't really get why people buy this stuff. You can do the same thing on your phone or computer. Why waste your money? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553400/#p553400 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Lucas1853 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all For me, this is a case of not really caring for change for the sake of change. When my stream breaks, then I might start using my phone for this stuff. I respect the gripes people have with the products not doing things that are promised

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : matt1211 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all The only products I am now comfortable with purchasing/receiving from A T companies are braille displays, and talking scales/other helpful kitchen stuff. I find that I can do most things on my computer or phone anyways, so there isn't really a point

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : matt1211 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all The only products I am now comfortable with purchasing/receiving from AT companies are braille displays, and talking scales/other helpful kitchen stuff. I find most things I can do on my computer or phone anyways, so there isn't really a point

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : superb via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all I know there has been a majority of negative posts toward companies like HumanWare in the Assistive Technology industry. I respect your opinions, but I hope you will also respect me when I say that I do not entirely share your views

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all I'm sorry, but this has to be said. Fuck Humanware! I'm sick of them coming out with products and then abandoning them when they've only reached half of their potential. I don't even want to know how many agencies and individuals have been ripped

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all I'm sorry, but this has to be said. Fuck Humanware! I'm sick of them coming out with products and then abandoning them when they've only reached half of their potential. I don't even want to know how many agencies and individuals have been ripped

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : UltraLeetJ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all yup, why do you feed these companies who charge you ten times the real cost of a product that half works? maybe your sympathy wants to cover what they spent on advertising, very sad. Nowadays cellphones can do triple the things these old pieces

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : UltraLeetJ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all yup, why do you feed these companies who charge you ten times the real cost of a product that half works? maybe your sympathy wants to cover what they spent on advertising, very sad. Nowadays cellphones can do triple the things these old pieces

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : omer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all its just wierd why people spend that much on hardware devices like thosepearl from fc, sucks go buy a ocr software , or hell use a free oneand this noeit doesnt make sense for me URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553353/#p553353

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all I still have the old boring offline VRStream, not that I've really used it in about ten years LOL. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553341/#p553341 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : marko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all @4 i know it's a good book player, but the wi-fi side sucks, especially the fact that almost half of the internet radio stations that work on my phone's ootunes app don't work on the stream. And also the thing with wikipedia and wictionary, which

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : queenslight via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Ah, the Trecker/Maestro Pro.If only they allowed downloading stuff via the browser, and that sights with _javascript_ worked...And although I don't use it anymore, I do still have it at my moms.CD's too! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : khomus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Not disagreeing with anybody's experience, but mine works fine. It does what it said it would do. It reads books. That's why I bought it. It seems odd to me that you presumably bought it knowing exactly what it could and couldn't do in one year

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nolan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all Par for the course for Humanware IME. I bought a Trekker from them back in 2006. Started out on version 2, which worked. Version 3 shipped with bugs that a) took me half an hour to find and b) broke use cases I depended on. Messages on the mailing

Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : stasp via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Victor reader Stream sucks after all No idea. I've never had a single humanware product as far as i know, so i cant say any major things here if it comes to experience.I have a book player called orion, and a Polish version of it called orion ECE, distributed by ECE.I dont know

Victor reader Stream sucks after all

2020-07-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : marko via Audiogames-reflector
Victor reader Stream sucks after all Hello! I have a Victor reader Stream 2, but it hasn't updated majorly since i got it in 2017. I really hate that even if i send an email to Humanware suggesting something, they just say the general thing: Your suggestion has been put to our list. But i