Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update I'm also using IBM because the Python 3 version seemed to crackle and I don't think that's a volume issue as IBM doesn't do it. Anyway, I'm sorted. Now for Vocalizer expressive. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520246/#p520246 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
2020-04-17
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update yeah i have been using this one since nvda's been updated. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520200/#p520200 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update I'm using the IBM TTS myself and it seems to work fine as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520101/#p520101 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.Thanks, everyone. It looks to be working fine now. I ended up using the latest pithon3 elequence Thank you! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520095/#p520095 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @nidza07 OMGOMG thank you soo much. Now I don't have to go crazy! And sorry for writing like an insane child.Edit: Odd. After disabling the UTF8 option, it re-enables. From what I can see, it won't turn off.Edit 2: English UK works for this and I have fixed the issue. Note that the UTF8 option looked like it wasn't disabling because it seems to re-enable after any key has been pressed aside from enter (which will click OK). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520026/#p520026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @nidza07 OMGOMG thank you soo much. Now I don't have to go crazy! And sorry for writing like an insane child.Edit: Odd. After disabling the UTF8 option, it re-enables. From what I can see, it won't turn off. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520026/#p520026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @nidza07 OMGOMG thank you soo much. Now I don't have to go crazy! And sorry for writing like an insane child. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520026/#p520026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update No. This is related to unicode and app locale issues. Go to your control panel, then region, and on the administrative tab choose change system locale. Make sure it is set to English US. If it is, also make sure that you did not enable the UTF 8 beta support in that same dialog. If you did, disable it, restart your PC and Eloquence should read all simbols correctly again. Note: The system locale setting may work with other languages Eloquence supports too, but as I don't speak anything else that's something someone else would have to confirm. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/520003/#p520003 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @Munawar, I'd agree with you except the Python 3 version has the same issue. In fact, so does the SAPI 4 version of Eloquence I have. The only version that didn't have this issue was Code Factories so I'm wandering if I can change this? I'm not even sure how this started as it didn't used to happen. My gut's telling me it had something to do with NVDA 2019 but again I can't pinpoint it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519995/#p519995 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @Munawar, I'd agree with you except the Python 3 version has the same issue. In fact, so does the SAPI 4 version of Eloquence I have. The only version that didn't have this issue was Code Factories. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519995/#p519995 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Lol. For whatever reason my ibm works fine, and I thought they updated it to fix all of its original bugs from earlier. Itwill perform better when they completely due away with all the leftover python2 code they have because of 2019.2.1 usage. Though it isn't just because of me actually owning a licensed Kurzweil1000 that I keep bringing it up, it's the only commercial package I know of that actually has an open IBM library that isn't bound to it specifically, i.e. sapi4 compliant, similar to how the Dectalk api was open for use by screen-readers when they used to ship Dectalk with it. There has to be a cheaper package around somewhere that actually has one, indeed there's Robert Betz's games if those were still around, which by the way were some good games for their time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519990/#p519990 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Lol. For whatever reason my ibm works fine, though it isn't just because of me actually owning a licensed Kurzweil1000 that I keep bringing it up, it's the only commercial package I know of that actually has an open IBM library that isn't bound to it specifically, i.e. sapi4 compliant, similar to how the Dectalk api was open for use by screen-readers when they used to ship Dectalk with it. There has to be a cheaper package around somewhere that actually has one, indeed there's Robert Betz's games if those were still around, which by the way were some good games for their time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519990/#p519990 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi,This was one of the reasons I dumped the IBM TTS thing and switched to Python3 Eloquence. The IBM driver is terrible. It doesn't even report commas properly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519981/#p519981 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update OK, so I've got a working copy of the IMB TTS add-on for NVDA with Eloquence. The only problem is that it reports some symbols incorrectly and nothing I've found suggests that this should happen. For example, n dash reports as a circumflex Euro. How can I fix this? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519978/#p519978 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi,You can get the python3 compatible Eloquence here that doesn't require the IBM add-on. I think the crashes people were originally getting was because Jeff's repo doesn't have the latest Eloq driver. Download it directly from Github: https://github.com/pumper42nickel/eloqu … ses/latestI've been using this version for a little over a month now and it runs well.Re: Hell, haha most people who'll point fingers at you are running this version themselves. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519963/#p519963 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.got your dm and sent a reply. we really need a better pm system.Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519884/#p519884 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hmm. You probably have a version that isn't compiled. Check your PM I'm going to send you something URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519878/#p519878 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.I may get some hell for this but my elequence files were from the nvda addon found at the repository.Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519871/#p519871 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @darkblade 98: What program did you purchase that comes with an ETI Eloquence binary? If it's the Kurzweil1000, I know for sure your Eloquqnece dirver needs to be directed to Kurzweil's intsallation path, you should not copy the library into the addon folder. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519867/#p519867 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.I got it from https://github.com/davidacm/NVDA-IBMTTS-Driver. Could that be the issue?Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519864/#p519864 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Where did you get your IBM from if you don't mind me asking? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519862/#p519862 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.Sorry for reviving this topic, but I have the same problem as some of the others on here. I can't load the IBM sinth. I've done all the steps including copying the ECI.dll file and copying all the voice files in to the IBM sinth driver folder. I Put my ECI.dll file in my downloads folder if that makes any difference. After all this, the damn sinthisizer still would not load. I would be very greatful if someone could help me, or at least give me some suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong. I can't stand the thought of no elequence.Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/519857/#p519857 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.@electro, I sent you a PM. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/504097/#p504097 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update When I try to load the IBM/Eloquence tts synth I got an error message and doesn't load. I tryed to doo all the steps you gave, but no loock. After ffinding the log it says that the voice key 4294967295 isn't found. Or did I missed some other step? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/504018/#p504018 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Is there an updated version of the Translate addon? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501390/#p501390 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @127 appreciate it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501297/#p501297 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update If the IBM TTS voice is being sold for 5 dollars on Linux, then it could theoretically be sold on Windows for that price. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501262/#p501262 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Anyone else think Eloquence should just be sold for $5? And I mean, the files for it? It's an old synth that's still preferred by a lot of us, including me, and it's not like it's Google's crazy voice synth that sounds nearly indistinguishable from a human voice. I know I'm not the license holders, someone's gonna probably say i'm "entitled" blah blah blah, I don't care about all that. I'd happily pay $5 to have the files and just put 'em on a disk or something so I never need to buy it again URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501232/#p501232 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Yep, officially out. Get it from nvdaremote.com URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501215/#p501215 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update I've edited my post to not include a direct link. Seriously not cool on the word censoring though. I know I've said this before, possibly in this very topic, but stopping words from being used is, well, very low to say the least. It's pretty sad we now have to edit our posts just to get around the childish whims of the moderators, or rather one moderator in particular who's name I shouldn't even need to mention. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501211/#p501211 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Guess I should clarify. I'm talking about the python 3 compatible eloquence addon over at Jeff's nvda addon repository. If you then download that addon and extract it, boom, then go to synth drivers/eloquence I believe, there's your files. Used those to configure the IBM TTS driver. The only thing that stopped me from just using the python 3 compatible eloquence addon directly was the crashing issues it has. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501146/#p501146 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update What's happening with Remote? Has it been updated? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501210/#p501210 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update All these years of the blind community using Eloquence and people are now suddenly asking what it's made of. Lol! Probably the most easy to bundle tts if it were easier to license in other applications, i.e. if Wizard Software were still around. Then again, Voxin got a license to distribute so they have to be in a distribution agreement with some entity other than Nuance for it to be so cheap.Re, copying Eloquence: You don't necessarily need to copy Eloquence to use the driver. Locate your Eloquence library. For Kurzweil1000 users, it's "C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\SpeechWorks\ETI-Eloquence 6.1\eci.dll"That's all there is to it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501207/#p501207 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Guess I should clarify. I'm talking about the python 3 compatible eloquence addon over at ***. If you then download that addon and extract it, boom, then go to synth drivers/eloquence I believe, there's your files. Used those to configure the IBM TTS driver. The only thing that stopped me from just using the python 3 compatible eloquence addon directly was the crashing issues it has. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501146/#p501146 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Oh snap, that's an illegal link. It contains audio described TV shows, audio described movies, and illegal addons of course. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501174/#p501174 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Guess I should clarify. I'm talking about the python 3 compatible eloquence addon over at jeff.tdrealms.com. If you then download that addon and extract it, boom, then go to synth drivers/eloquence I believe, there's your files. Used those to configure the IBM TTS driver. The only thing that stopped me from just using the python 3 compatible eloquence addon directly was the crashing issues it has. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501146/#p501146 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.@haily_merry the version I downloaded from the official GitHub repository did not have any of those DLL files, nor any voice files for that matter. Did you download it from there? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501144/#p501144 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update 119, small correction. The python 3 compatible eloquence addon has all required DLL's to load the synth. Unless you're specifically talking about making it speak those characters, in which case that's something else. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501140/#p501140 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.@Zersiax like I stated previously, the only legal SAPI5 version of Eloquence that's out there is Code Factory's own Eloquence package. However if you download the 7-day trial direct from Code Factory's website, you won't get Chinese, Japanese, and Korean language options, instead you'll get the usual 10 language options. However, if you download the 7-day trial from Computer Room Services in the UK, who is a third-party reseller of the product, you will get Chinese, Japanese, and Korean language options. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501139/#p501139 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @116You say the sapi 5 version of Eloquence can read Chinese, Japanese and Korean characters?I'd be curious what version I would need to get to get that working? Is it still runnable on windows 10 and where can it be downloaded/purchased?Thanks URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501138/#p501138 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update I've tryed to copy all of the eloquece files but it seems that I cannot load the synth. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501129/#p501129 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update For those who are wondering what languages this IBM TTS driver supports, it supports (American English, British English, Castilian Spanish, Latin American Spanish, French, French Canadian, German, Italian, Brazilian Portuguese, and Finish). It also supports Chinese, Japanese, and Korean (you'll need CHS.SYN, CHSROM.DLL, JPN.SYN, JPNROM.dll, KOR.SYN, and KORROM.dll). To my knowledge the only way of getting those files is Code Factory's Eloquence SAPI 5, that is, if you get it from Computer Room Services, since Code Factory's own installer removed those files.I will warn you now that those languages will not read out the special characters associated with them. As far as I know I haven't found a way to make them do that, even though ironically the SAPI5 version does that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501124/#p501124 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update You can also find ECI.dll in Colton's TTS app, and I believe also in jaws somewhere. So you could say, download the jaws demo and just get the DLL that way. No need to purchase anything. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501118/#p501118 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update for those still not knowing how to setup the driver.find a file called eci.dll. this can be found if you have used eloquence before upgrading. it's in the ad-on folder under %appdata% roaming nvda ad-ons inside the synth drivers folder. There also should be .synth files. copy these out as well.Once you have this file copied somewhere, go upgrade your ersion of nvda to the latest version (2019.3).Now go install the driver and enter the settings dialogue. find ibm TTS in the categories list and hit the browse button. Here, select the eci.dll file you previously copied.Now, you should copy all the voice files from the previous eloquence ad-on into the %appdata nvda ibmTTS synth drivers folder.Restart your nvda and eloquence should pop up under your change synthesizer in the speech section of the nvda settings.I hope this helped. if you can't find the eci.dll, go install other programs that contain eloquence. Curzweil appears to be one of them as others have said. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501104/#p501104 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update for those still not knowing how to setup the driver.find a file called eci.dll. this can be found if you have used eloquence before upgrading. it's in the ad-on folder under %appdata% roaming nvda ad-ons inside the synth drivers folder. There also should be .synth files. copy these out as well.Once you have this file copied somewhere, go upgrade your ersion of nvda to the latest version (2019.3).Now go install the driver and enter the settings dialogue. find ibm TTS in the categories list and hit the browse button. Here, select the eci.dll file you previously copied.Now, you should copy all the voice files from the previous eloquence ad-on into the %appdata nvda ibmTTS synth drivers folder.Restart your nvda and eloquence should pop up under your change synthesizer in the speech section of the nvda settings.I hope this helped. if you can't find the eci.dll, go install other programs that contain eloquence. Curzweil appears to be one of them as others have said. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501104/#p501104 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Guys, for the IBM thing, do I only need the dll file, or some other files as well? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501097/#p501097 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update .. Yeah. I'll just get the other release lolol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501046/#p501046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Python3, SCons, Markdown, Visual Studio compiler URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501016/#p501016 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update What would I need to build the latest version from source? Visual studio? Python? I could probably build it if I have all the prerequisites, I've done more complicated shit before lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501015/#p501015 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @Munawar what was the issue with notepad++? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/501006/#p501006 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update For some reason, my latest release had it.download it hereKurzweil1000 uses an Eloquence 6.1 library, to my knowledge, the only one in a still commercially maintained package that isn't tied specifically to the application. The same was true when they bundled Dectalk, the dapi was still open so you could have easily used Dectalk with screen readers that had an Access32 drivers, and there was also documentation on making Dectalk sing. Plus PCS dos Game demos of course that used to come on the disk way back when. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500976/#p500976 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update When in doubt. Build from source URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500973/#p500973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update That's why people are saying to use the IBM add-on with your existing ETI.dll for NVDA 2019.3 instead of the updated Eloquence driver itself. I did this before I downgraded to 2019.2 due to no Notepad++ support and it worked fine. No crashes. The IBM add-on is easy to setup and get working. if you want the latest add-on IBM package, don't download the release on Git tagged Latest Release. That version doesn't have a .nvda-addin asset. Go a couple releases back I believe though I don't remember now which one I grabbed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500968/#p500968 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update The new eloquence driver is crashing whenever I'm in Discord and I have to restart NVDA. Wonder if there will be a fix to this soon URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500877/#p500877 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Also, I can confirm that the Eloquence within a registered copy of Kurzweil1000, one which contains no drm, was sapi-compliant and not tied specifically to the application, is usable in the IBM driver. To remain fully legal, you are going to need to buy your own copy ot Kurzweil1000. Either that, or contact Code Factory and ask them to remove the non-transparent persistent license checks that may impact people with skay internet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500823/#p500823 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update The author of the Unspoken 3d sounds addon was Bryan Smart and Austin Hix. IT was then forked by someone else (Mushirav I believe) to be an audio themes addon with the same underlying engine. It has since not been updated for NVDA 2019.3. I believe though that the speech refactoring and the new speech subsystem will enable the future implementation of earcons directly into NVDA, that can be handled and timed a lot more accurately than the addon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500821/#p500821 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update That doesn't mean it needs to be posted on this particular forum haha. Also the guy's name who developed the driver is David, not brad. This doesn't infringe on your personal freedoms, because there's plenty of places e.g. black operations google facilitated group, reddit piracy, blind help, where you can talk about this stuff. I wouldn't lose sleep if someone took down a post of something like that because websites have the right to run themselves how they please. It doesn't inconvenience me to have this be blocked here so I'm not going anywhere. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500780/#p500780 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi,Does anybody know if the unspoken 3d sounds addon is being updated. I really enjoyed that addon and I can't remember who the author of it was. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500784/#p500784 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update That doesn't mean it needs to be posted on this particular forum haha. Also the guy's name who developed the driver is David, not brad. This doesn't infringe on your personal freedoms, because there's plenty of places e.g. black operations google facilitated group, reddit piracy, blind help, where you can talk about this stuff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500780/#p500780 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update ah ok I thought you were talking about me posting the link, oops. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500782/#p500782 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update That doesn't mean it needs to be posted on this particular forum haha. Also the guy's name who developed the driver is David, not brad. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500780/#p500780 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.@serrebi: is the guy, me?I just posted the link because I wanted people who like eloquence to have a copy for their latest NVDA.I personally cannot live without eloquence, as wierd as that may sound, so I posted it thinking others may apreciate downloading it like I did.Anyway, what's done is done URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500778/#p500778 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Agree with Liam: I was mixed on posting the article about the engine to Twitter, because of what the sight's known for. I may use cracks, but I support as many of the projects that I can by purchasing. The guy really should have posted somewhere else though, but maybe he knew it would still get traction, because of the emotions people feel about purchasing eloquence again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500746/#p500746 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.@nidza07, thanks for posting the link for those that need it.@Liam ah, so the auto matching tool thing would delete that link because of what's on the site.I'm still going to leave as I believe everyone has the right to what ever they like to download but I understand now where you're coming from. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500732/#p500732 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Guys, it's real simple.https://github.com/davidacm/NVDA-IBMTTS-DriverThere you go, no filter. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500721/#p500721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update no name has been censored. the direct link to the site was.Also. there's a massive difference between a search engine vs. a site that is designed to contain links on it's front page which directly offers cracked software. The search engine argument is a weak one and always makes me laugh when you all fall back to that one.Again I state. If the IBM add on is legal, then by all means post it on a site that is not known for dispensing cracked software. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500711/#p500711 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update We're going to have to agree to disagree then, because I really don't like that practice much. It's your rules so I'll follow them and not question them anymore, but I can't agree with it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500710/#p500710 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Liam, your obvious biases are showing here. By your logic we should be banning links to search engines as well because technically they could link to all manner of bad things. Sensor the links if you want, it's still stupid in my opinion but whatever your call, but censoring names of sites now? Na man, not cool. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500705/#p500705 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update that is an autocensor that censors that website regardless. While the cracked applications and games are still there, there is no way that filter will get removed. if someone chooses to host the IBM TTS addon somewhere else, so long as it is legal we will not impede your ability to download and use it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500702/#p500702 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Yes, but Viavoice is perfectly legal. I thought you guys said you would take intent into account before deleting links to websites that contain questionable content? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500700/#p500700 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Yes. That is one of the censored sites as it contains a number of cracked software includes games. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500697/#p500697 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update At this point I have to agree. IBM Viavoice is not illegal, so it shouldn't be illegal to link to. This word censoring thing is getting quite ridiculous in my opinion. You guys said intent will be taken into account when removing links, but there’s no malicious intent here. Intent being taken into account goes straight out the window with the word sensors you guys have in place, because now nobody can link to that site for anything, legal or not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500690/#p500690 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update At this point I have to agree. IBM Viavoice is not illegal, so it shouldn't be illegal to link to. This word censoring thing is getting quite ridiculous in my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500690/#p500690 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.This is silly, the page says as far as the author knows, the software is legal.Yes there's other things on that sight that might not be but surely that's for the person to figure out and if they download it it's not to do with the audiogames.net team?I think this sencering of information is sillly and actually harms blind people more than it helps.Some of us cannot update because we can't use these "real" sounding voices and eloquence is the best way for us to go forward but with you taking away our write to post links, you're stopping us from using the latest features of NVDA.Yes people can look it up but it's not easy to do and clicking a link is a lot simpler.I think this modiration thing is being taken way to far, nothing is going to happen if someone clicks on a link, at least it won't happen to the website. No one is checking over the thing and this site isn't as important as you seam to think it is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500676/#p500676 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Seriously? Word sensering again? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500658/#p500658 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.If you go to *** you can get the IBM eloquence drivers for NVDA and as far as I know, it's totally legal.If you download the IBM eloquence with drivers folder, make sure to unzip it after it's downloaded.It's not an addon, it's a folder with an addon inside it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500652/#p500652 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @84, My NVDA works fine with the one core voices. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500616/#p500616 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Interestingly with this version of NVDA I can't use the windows onecore voices. When I try to load it from synthesisers I get an error with this message: "Could not load the oneCore synthesizer."This isn't really an issue for me since I don't use it anyway, just curious what the problem might be. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500612/#p500612 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update To clarify, IbM Home page reader, uses IbM Viavoice TTS, not Eloquence. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500598/#p500598 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Thank you FamilyMario for giving the explanation. I didn't know there were still programs that used DRM free Eloquence. BTW, I'm sending you a PM after I press submit after this post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500559/#p500559 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @Brad:You'd be correct. Any python3 exclusive addon is meant to run in 2019.3 and future builds. That being said, if you buy the codefactory addon, you are technically able to run the license on two machines, though you need to watch out for the persistent license check drm that is not very transparent.If you plan to carry it around on a portable NVDA, remember to activate on the computer you're using, and deactivate when you're done. I don't know for sure if when activating on a one-time use machine *a library for example), you can just simply run a trial license and call it a day, but that's how things currently stand now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500560/#p500560 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi.I downloaded the version of eloquence that works with python 3 but it didn't show up in my NVDA addons.I'm running an earlier version of NVDA as I don't want to update if I can't use eloquence, so is that why it didn't show up?IF I brought the code factory version, would it work with the latest NVDA?Also, would I be able to transfer it from this pc to a knew laptop or do I need to buy it again if I want to do that?I know a lot of people ask about this speech symth but it's because we're used to it and honestly I, personallly, find the other voices to just sound wrong when reading Harry Potter fan fiction. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500557/#p500557 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @Turkce_rap: People have said where to get the latest Eloquence. If you want a drm-free distribution, find a legal way of obtaining Viavoice and use the Eloquence addon that contains the interface without the library. We cannot provide that to you. A copy of Kurzweil1000, IBM Homepage Reader maybe, now those can provide it to you no problem. Kurzweil is the only currently maintained commercial package that contains an Eloquence that legally can be used in any other application. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500542/#p500542 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @Turkce_rap: People have said where to get the latest Eloquence. If you want a drm-free distribution, find a legal way of obtaining Viavoice and use the Eloquence addon that contains the interface without the library. We cannot provide that to you. A copy of Kurzweil1000, IBM Homepage Reader maybe, now those can provide it to you no problem. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500542/#p500542 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update ANyone know where can i get the latest elequence and a propper config for it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500539/#p500539 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @Munawar: IN fairness, I was hoping that NV Access would not have made the 2019.3 an auto-update. For all their warnings and prep-time, you would think that they would have followed suit by not forcing the update out until a few weeks later, given the significance of this update. So they do lose points for that in my opinion, as they could have had the auto-update sunset at 2019.2.1. This way, people who haven't been engaged in the NVDA listserve/social media interaction still know what they're getting into. I honestly cannot blame anyone who has been/is off Twitter anyway, it's a shitshow as it stands. Speaking of, Q has released Remote2.3 , giving full support to 2019.3. I was going to get in contact with Azslow concerning Sibiac, but people are already storming the thread with when's the new version coming out, when's it coming out, stuff like that. This one is going to be harder to update because of its many moving parts, including the dated Tesseract engine that was primarily builtin the python2 stages anyhow. I am willing to wait. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500528/#p500528 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update i like the new version it is stable URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500527/#p500527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @connor142The voice files that @Dan_Gero are talking about are the IBM ViaVoice TTS language/voice files. If you recall, ViaVoice TTS is basically a repackaged/rebranded version of Eloquence, so to speak. The easiest/legal way of obtaining the files are to either get a trial version of IBM HomePage Reader or searching for the actual ViaVoice speech recognition software either on a CD or download. But, since the TTS is basically Eloquence, the DLL file and the actual voice files should work (you can just use the Eloquence files from anything with Eloquence, as long as it has ECI.DLL, or in the case of IBM TTS, IBMECI.DLL). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500524/#p500524 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Thanks for posting this OP. It prevented me from upgrading to 2019.3 and I came to find out later that Notepad++ isn't supported in the new version which is a showstopper for me. I'm one of those people that upgrades NVDA without checking the change log first.I did eventually try it out and did notice that NVDA has done their due diligence and noted which add-ons will break in the new version, so if I hadn't seen this post that message in the installer would have stopped me also. But thanks for coming here to post the info and give us a heads-up. For people like me who aren't tuned into social media and things (despite a couple on here saying NVDA hasn't exactly been silent about this breaking change, implying that everyone should have known anyway,) these types of posts are very helpful. I had no idea until I saw this post that 2019.3 is the Python 3 upgrade. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500517/#p500517 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @69 all of the translation add-ons have been updated. Instant Translate is on the official add-on page, JGT can be found on blindgamers.com, and the other translate add-on by Yanik can be downloaded here URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500513/#p500513 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update @JackYou can take it as a feedback on NVDA'S project side. Nothing personal. i never said i m not apriciating devs working.as i always say and thats just my imho, official addon features should be standardised. i agree with you on one thing, i've relied on nvda update check without reading the site and thats my fault. so happend what happend anyway, hope things get resolved soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500506/#p500506 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Guys, anyone got latest updated elequence addon Jaws alike config btw? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500507/#p500507 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hi @67, what are these voice files and where do you get them? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500504/#p500504 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update I will add a list of addons which are inaccessible with latest version:emoticons,translate,slavic language pack URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500470/#p500470 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update The problem with that thing is that the root dictionary (root.dic) does not get loaded. It's the weirdest thing, and kind of necessary for me because I use a custom one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500465/#p500465 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Hey Connor. The IBM Driver on Davidacm's Github Page is a better work around for getting Eloquence. It doesn't come with the actual voice files because it's illegal for it to, but as long as you have the voice files it's easy enough to add them in through the settings dialogue. The addon can be found on the page I linked to above in the readme.md. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500459/#p500459 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update ok, two points here. To those who keep saying that nv access should have thought about add ons not working, no. they didn't have to. Addons are third party programs and thus not the responsibility of nv access to maintain or worry about, they have to worry about enough as it is with the limited funding they run this on. You should stop crying about how little they thought of you and your shiny addons, and show at least some apreciation that you don't have to give $1000 to fs, or $100 every year, just to use a computer like everyone else. One more thing though, I do wonder if there's a way to get the python 3 version of eloquence working properly? Right now, it loves to crash frequently. Does anyone have a version that doesn't crash, or have a workaround for the crashes? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500456/#p500456 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update Preserved core functionality with intended add-on updates coupled with a page reflecting the state of said updates? And for free? Hmmm... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500449/#p500449 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update
Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update The NVDA developers did think of this. This is one of the reasons why, even though this update was released in 2020, it's called 2019.3. They decided to delay the release so that the majority of the addons could be updated. There are several that are still WIP, but most of the official addons have been updated, with others like speech history being finalized right now.The one last major holdout from what I'm aware is NVDA Remote, which is actually mostly updated. The problem right now is the developers. Other people did most of the work to port Remote, but now the developers are not communicating with the community to explain what they still need to do, why the update has not been released. NVAccess themselves don't seem to be very happy about this, but Remote isn't their responsibility even if the NVDA devs did do some of the work to port it over. NVAccess should not be responsible for addons that aren't necessary for the core functioning of NVDA. They already have enough to worry about in that regard, possibly more than they can handle. NVDA is still great, but I've noticed a downward spiral since 2018 in performance. I'm hoping that 2019.3 will fix some of these things, and that the modernization will pave the way to fixing more of them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500446/#p500446 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Warning about the newest NVDA update turkce_rap wrote:I think Nvda developpers should have think of this mess.As if they haven't already warned users that it would be?1. Python2.7 is officially at its end of life. Move on.2. NVDA2019.3 was in desperate need of Python3's new potential as everyone knew. This port was no small weekend project, so don't go assuming it was one and that no thought went into this. Here's something to think about though. Their hard work still isn't your free lunch. Even if you can't donate, you are generally expected to assist the project in however way you can, which can and should be as simple as testing the alphas/betas, contributing feedback, and contacting NVDA addon developers during the months before when you had plenty of time to. Even then, there are genuine concerns about addons, which are definitely justified, indeed I can't upgrade myself because Sibiac, but I have been keeping 2019.3 betas around as portable for who knows how long. When they release these and ask for feedback, they actually, are looking, for feedback. These are people doing the project more or less grant/donation funded, and feedback makes a huge, huge difference. Some people really need to be, not necessarily more grateful, but cut the negligence a bit, i.e. waiting to the absolute last minute tto install 2019.3 instead of testing the betas and reporting this stuff. I don't suppose any of the legitimate complainers have any mission critical stuff to worry about, and even if they did, you literally have nothing to lose with a portable installation.The, quote, addon mess, is not NVDA's fault. The final release hasn't been out for one freaking week yet. Give it time before saying they should have thought about this mess. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/500441/#p500441 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
