Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
It just gets better and better.This isn't actually about spyware or the Windows 10 nagware, but it's still relevant to this thread because it's another underhanded tactic for getting people onto Win10. So ...Microsoft is giving Windows
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
It just gets better and better. This isn't actually about spyware or the Windows 10 nagware, but it's still relevant to this thread because it's another underhanded tactic for getting people onto Win10. So ...Microsoft is giving Windows
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Wanderer: well, yes, quite. This is really why virtualisation is such a boon. Windows 8.1 is good enough for me, but I have heard that Windows 10 is continually improving hardware support. I just can't live with the loss of control
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Just out of curiosity, how do you turn off all telemetry just in case I wanted to do it some time without group policy?
URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=247050#p247050
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I'd say I have about the same amount of control I did on 8.1, so not really a loss there. I can't pick and choose which updates are downloaded by default, but I never really did that on earlier versions anyway except for the 8.1
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I think I said this previously in this thread, but what pisses me off even more than the privacy violations is how MS is so presumptuous as to have things set to run in the background and automatically upload data by default, wasting
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yeah, I get it. We just need someone to break the cycle of dependence, I guess.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
The only reason i'm on 10 is for gaming on this machine. I keep xp on all the other machines just because i miss the days of when windows was light-weight and had a very small memory footprint. There is an argument floating around
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yeah I've disabled it in both Group Policy and the registry (the group policy setting doesn't seem to change the registry value) as well as all the "diagnostic" services and scheduled tasks. Using NVDA; Eloquence is ac
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@Wanderer: oof! Not for me.Still, what screen reader are you on? Curious minds want to know.Did you follow all of the steps for disabling telemetry by policy? You can't disable it just by killing processes in Win10 since it's
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Quite fun indeed. Does it help that I am kicking and screaming? So far, my figurative kicking and screaming has kept me on seven. One of the reasons I am staying on seven is that 10 doesn't really offer me anything I want for what all
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yeah I gave up and am on 10, surprisingly it's actually not that bad. I disabled syncing and everything (services, tasks, registry values) that has to do with telemetry, and only start the Windows Update service when I actually want
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
The march continues.Windows 10 will now, contrary to prior assertions, download and install onto domain-joined computers, too. You must be getting your updates through WSUS to stop it. So, every small business with mobile users is now
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I don't know. If MS manage to kick up any more of a shitstorm, then I'll consider installing GWX Control Panel, although honestly I'd rather not. It may be a cure, but it's not ideal because it has to stay resident just to work, which
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
GWX control panel app is useble, or at least the parts that everyone on here will need to access. I installed it using jaws, and I tabbed around setting up my settings with know problem. It did, at least, I got rid of the get windows 10
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
The saga continues.The latest Windows Update client now pushes you into installing Windows 10 if it's downloaded. Uninstalling the update client is ill-advised, because it's the Windows Update client and will be responsible for handling
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
And the gwx control panel doesn't stop this from happoning for you? I have that gwx control panel running in the background on my system. If this months updates do get pass this app, then I may not even want to worry about applying them
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
This just in: now it seems even setting the registry keys is ineffective.I give up. Microsoft simply cannot be trusted. Apple have flaws, but holy tripe, nothing like this!I'm staying on XP in a VM.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
This just in: now it seems even setting the registry keys is ineffective. A background process resets them.I give up. Microsoft simply cannot be trusted. Apple have flaws, but holy tripe, nothing like this!I'm staying on XP in a VM
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
The saga continues.In what has to be the most incredibly insincere and disingenuous blog post imaginable, MS are now telling us, with lots of predictable spin and with no way to send feedback through the blog comments, that Windows 10
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
ahoy all8.1? from what I heard Microsoft was planning on forcefully upgrading people to windows 10. I.E adding those updates in windows update, or least that's what I thought. didn't have a deeper look yet sinse I have windows updates
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
It's because Microsoft had force-ticked the windows 10 update, so even blocking scripts won't work.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yeah, WSUSOffline is a misleading name, but no, it's not a Microsoft product. It can work with Microsoft's WSUS though, which as you say requires a server edition of Windows which in practice means, unlike OS X and Linux, nobody
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I "like" how I disabled updates and ran the block windows script, and still got the "installing updates xx% don't turn off your computer" screen. ... Or how I'm on Windows 8.1 for some reason, even though I nev
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Sebby thanks for that, I thought WSUS was a Microsoft thing and had to be run on the server editions of Windows. It seems that there was another "Update to the Diagnostic experience"/Whateverthefuckthey'recallingitnow u
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Be careful what updates you install though, you don't want to get the spyware treatment as well, there's a chance you could.
URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=235237#p235237
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Mmm. Well they say they've corrected the issue, but I don't like it. Perhaps people who don't want automatic updates have a point.@Wanderer: WSUS Offline Update is your friend.
URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=235196
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
All right. Here we go again.Microsoft apparently pushing the Win10 installation as a pre-selected "Optional" update, they say by mistake.Watch out ...
URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=2351
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Well, a "mistake?" Sounds iffy to me, wouldn't trust that. As for that blue screen mentioned in the article, I think that's what I'd call another example of defective by design.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I'm back on 8.1 if anyone is interested, got fed up with Win10's sluggishness in addition to all these privacy concerns. Will hopefully get around to slipstreaming an ISO with updates someday...
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yeah, sadly have to agree that in Wanderer's shoes Windows is probably the best solution going forward for across-the-board, if mediocre, accessibility to everything that you really need. Once you're done with college, you can
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yeah, sadly have to agree that in Wanderer's shoes Windows is probably the best solution going forward for across-the-board, if mediocre, accessibility to everything that you really need. Once you're done with college, you can
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Unfortunately, it's not always as simple as "just get Linux." Hardware support and accessibility are steadily improving, but they're not up to par with Windows or OS X. If you're on a laptop, battery life is usually also a
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yep. Microsoft, the outmoded crappy company we have come to know, has turned viol at our privacy. Guyss, just, get linux, it's free so why not? If you can't afford a mac, just get linux. I'm not forcing anyone directly
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
HelloExactly. There are so many people out there who don't really check out what their systems can do, or might even be doing, without their consent, and as Jack said the big corperations take advantage of this. This stuff did
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
And this, is exactly why, on the windows side, I will be sticking strictly to xp and below, and also attempting to install windows xp 32bit on my older 64bit alternate dell machine which should work, the thing only has just above 3gb
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
It's the direction MS are taking windows, yeah. Sad. Somewhat ironic that people who do know what they're doing and just want to get things done are now having to work harder to stop Windows from being a privacy-invading toy, and start
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Wanderer: It's because people who use computers, like people who just wanna get stuff done, write stuff, emails, stuff like that, do not care about the actual inner-workings of the operating system and such, or how good a system you
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Well, I've officially lost all respect for Microsoft. This is a slap in the face to the user. They're essentially saying "you're an idiot and can't think for yourself, so we're going to decide what's best for you and you're com
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Hello,Agreeed, I only want that on one of my systems, and I'm waiting until further down the line to see what gaming will hold, such as killer instinct and such, and to know what exactly I'm letting myself in for. OK yes it makes
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Right. Well, this isn't exactly data collection, but now it seems that you'll get the Windows 10 installer, whether you like it or not.And what do you know, my connections are metered. Thankfully, I'm on OS X here, in most places
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Nocturnus: Completely valid point, once data is in the hands of corporations, then it's, in, their, hands. Not always a problem for data you explisitly give permision to share, but yes it is a problem for data that is shared without
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Nocturnus: Completely valid point, once data is in the hands of corporations, then it's, in, their, hands. Not always a problem for data you explisitly give permision to share, but yes it is a problem for data that is shared without
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Nocturnus: yep, that's perfectly reasonable. I have no idea what the root cause is either, but it almost seems certain to be about the majority, and then we get into the whole discussion about whether the majority is always right
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Sebby,Nor would I suggest that your concerns are illegitimate or simply a stretch of the mind, but I do believe that every system that is designed to bring about some form of good can be reverse assembled so as to easily do
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Sebby,I too can respect your position on this matter; my point is simply that we should look at the situation as a whole rather than blaming this or that company of being responsible. It's similar to how people who are against violent
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Hey Nocturnus. I certainly respect that POV and you're not the first person by any means to express it. However, as a technologist, I'm well aware how the Internet works. I am not the target demographic because I understand the concept
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Firefox accessibility is the main reason I wouldn't consider Linux at the moment. It's still way too brittle and unpredictable.Windows 10 gathers a lot of information, though most of it is through the mandatory collection when
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ok
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
All those things are not true. Microsoft is only scanning files you upload to one drive not on your computer I will will try and see if I can find the real article
URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231280#p231280
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Looks like most if not all of it can still be disabled through task scheduler at least. Still, as you said, unacceptable and way too inconvenient. Also Win10 still has some new processes running that I can't find any way to disable
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Doom and gloom everywhere; honestly the amount of paranoia is somewhat, suffocating? I don't know how anxiety can fail to create more as its contemplated. I think post 24 is about the best post I've seen on this topic. Forget buying
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Doom and gloom everywhere; honestly the amount of paranoia is somewhat, suffocating? I don't know how anxiety can fail to create more as its contemplated. I think post 24 is about the best post I've seen on this topic. Forget buying
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I like Arch, though Firefox accessibility is still not 100%. That being said, I was running Arch on my Macbook and had everything set up the way I liked it. Then I did a battery life test. Now I'm not running Arch. Think that says
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Hi,I've used Linux exclusively for the past 6 months. I have Arch Linux on my laptop, and I even have my iMac dual-booted with Gentoo Linux.True, it can take some getting used to, but it's definitely doable.Accessibility may
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Personally, I'm not too concerned about the data going out, since there are millions of computers running Windows and it's highly unlikely mine would be noteworthy enough to be read by an individual. The thing that gets me more than
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
how can they improve cortana and other services without voice samples? If you're that concerned about privacy don't shop at stores, get rid of all your bank cards and credit cards. don't talk to anybody because they could hear your
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Other than fixing my XP laptop or finding the installation disk (would a 32bit XP installer work on a 64bit machine?), how would one go about upgrading to XP? This sounds like less of a headache than trying to learn a new OS.
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Crappy in deed. I may be forced to update to ten on my windows machine, but I think I will weight until the my access improve a bit better. The more I think about it, I am most likely going to weight until after october or something
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Yes with a catch or two. The 32 bit version of XP will not see over 4 gb of ram. It will most likely give you access to 2 or 3 gb of ram. If you have any more of ram in the machine than it can give you access to, it won't get used
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I doubt you'll experience problems just being disconnected, you just won't send any data, perhaps until you come back online.I don't think using XP is viable anymore, simply because it's out of support and you aren't guaranteed that new
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Why? They've tasted data and they like it a lot. In somewhat related news, there's a new update to Fusion for Mac, version 8. One of the noticeable things for us is that PC speaker is now emulated for Mac too. And the virtual machine
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
I was listening to windows weekly and thought that everyone here might want to listen to show 429 rufly a little over 30 mins in. They also have the show notes up with the links in question. enjoy.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
hi Sebbythanks friend.yes I understand the dangers that some of these scripts may cause.for me the one who worries me would be that inability to install more updates.but I will stay with these scripts stored until one day... thank you
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
What information do these updates collect? I'm just curious.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Unless you're on the public b3ta of mac or ios, all that is collected by Apple is diagnostic info. However, there is a clear way to disable that right from the start. In theory windows10 users can disable the spyware, but you have
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Unless you're on the public b3ta of mac or ios, all that is collected by Apple is diagnostic info. However, there is a clear way to disable that right from the start. In theory windows10 users can disable the spyware, but you have
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
hi Rob.can you tell me if this is for the w10?what I realized is that this only serves to w7 and 8. can I install it in w10?thanks.cheers.
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Thanks for the info. I wonder how many this will drive away. I am guessing not many. The more I think about the more I wonder what other devices got the treetment. I remember seeing something somewhere at sometime about apple collecting
Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
FYI, Microsoft intensifies data collection on Windows 7 and 8 systems.Right now you can remove the updates and then hide them, assuming they are not depended upon by future updates and that they will not be unhidden at a later time (as has
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Thanks for sharing this article. It is deeply concerning what MS is doing these days, just when I thought they'd be heading in the right direction with their improved accessibility and friendlier customer support since 8.I don't think
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Just wanted to say thanks for the update, My machine is removing the updates as I write this.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Hi sebby and all.Well this is the problem.Potential privacy concerns have come up and ms is being monitered by several governments world wide.THe same stuff happened with google and facebook.And adjusting your privacy settings where
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
From my point of view, MS is just trying to do some sort of experomentm since they have a ton of money. Here's thwe thing, they won't search your stuff if you don't give them a reason to.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
@Chris: it's anonymous usage and crash data, so-called "Telemetry". Obviously some people will have no problem with this, but it does include potentially sensitive information, and unless you feel a particular obligation to se
Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Wanderer, you can use eloquence with mac osx with voiceover. ANd I agree, window just blows even more with each update.
URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230535#p230535
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Does it collect on windows 10? if so. I will turn of this update immediately.
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Re: Windows 7 and 8 Now Getting The Spyware Treatment
Ah man, I've seriously just about had it with Windows, it just gets more and more ridiculous with each version. Think I'll be switching to OS X for most things for all the good that'll do, but I'm sure I'll always have a Windows VM
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