Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @Dark;Sorry, Ill correct that right now.Bash away everybody, I will say no more. As a JAWS user and a satisfied Freedom Scientific customer, I had an interest in what other people thought of them and their products, but not if those

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @Moderation! @Gene you seem to have missunderstood the above moderation comment, if you feel people are bashing ie, cryticizing unfairly, feel free to say so, just do so without accusing those who offer other forms of cryticism

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Well, while I am personally appalled about Freedom Scientifics end user license agreement I also realize that most of us have a freedom of choice. Today there are a number of alternatives including: NVDA, Window-Eyes, System Access

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Moderation! @Gellman, now it is you getting confrontational! please do not tell other people what they themselves are saying or what they mean or start attributing characteristics such as Getting superior to others. If you want

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Hello,I forgot about Freedom Scientific suing gw micro. I think that is very much out of line, given the market that screen reader developers are taking part in. Thats like Apple or Samsung suing Sony for adding a touch screen

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Heres a question for you.If this is the software license agreement for JAWS 16 and JAWS 16 was released over six months ago, what can it mean that it took six months for people to decide to make a stick about it? URL: http

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @bradThe same could be said of any corporation being the first to market a groundbreaking invention.Does it mean that we should be thankful in perpetuity for what the corporation has done for us and give it a free pass when it tries

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @GeneWarnerCriticism is not less valid or important just because it concerns events you think are no longer of great novelty.Yes, the issues with FS$ license are not new, and so what?You do not get to define which actions of anyone

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Hello.Im an NVDA user and would not go back to jaws. But I will say this, before NVDA, JAWS was my screen reader and I learned how to use a computer using JAWS so, i dont hate JAWS, its people or anything like that. I dont like

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Moderation! @Coltonhill01, the position of this forum on personal attacks is absolutely clear, whatever someone else says, you dont have the right to insult them on your own behalf. Sinse this is not the first time you have been warned

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? I have to laugh, you have a valid argument against Freedom Scientific and you completely discredit it and yourself by resorting to childish name calling. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222601#p222601

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? I wasnt having a go at anyone earlier... just for the record.post 11:I remember when I got my first mac back in 2008 I pretty much said the same thing to everyone I knew... Just get a mac you will save money.At the time I just got

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Jean, you yourself are acting like a child, by not allowing us to state what is clearly factual. Freedom scientifics intentions are clearly to enforce money out of people to be able to use a screen reader for there computer. But, heres

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? no one said anything about wishing any of them ill will, we just dont like the way theyre choosing to do business. does the name really offend you that you have to call us children, i mean come on... Just ignore the topic if you dont

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? why cant people criticize them with out resorting to really stupid name calling? Its hard to take any criticism seriously when its filled with childish terms like freedom science fiction, greedom scientific and flaws. Name calling like

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? why cant people criticize them with out resorting to really stupid name calling. Its hard to take any criticism seriously when its filled with childish terms like freedom science fiction, greedom scientific and flaws. Name calling like

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? With all the name calling, wishing ill will on the people that work at Freedom scientific, and other rather childish behavior over something that will have little if any affect on you, I wonder why you complain about the way people

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? I agree that the name calling aspect is rather childish, but I consider, (and that has only increased since I discovered NVDA, voice over, System Access and narrator), Freedom Scientific to be unfair with the way they price jaws. Im

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Ive been monitoring this topic in case a moderation intervention is needed. I will remind people that the blog with the article referencing the issues with the jfw ula was not written by Coltonhill01, but is a blog from a different

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @11 agreed, @12 dont worry, Ive been practicing restraint, trust me, if I let loose what I really wanted to say in some of these topics, Id be gone in no time... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222676#p222676

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? I wasnt having a go at anyone earlier... just for the record. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222692#p222692 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Yeah guys, I agree with JeenWarner here, the name-calling is quite unnecessary. Do you not notice that someone, or an organization, or a company, improves when given constructive criticism. Some of the criticisms I see are destructive

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? coltonhill01 wrote:and again gene.Stop bashing all of us and making us feel like crap just because you want us to be adults, when most of us arent.Really, when I joined this forum I was told that you had to be 18 or older to join. I

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? There is one humorous element to this non-sense.Everybody knows that nobody actually reads those software license agreements software vendors like to put in their installers. So, other than to malign and wish for misfortune to befall

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @GeneWarnerThe patent was invalidated on the ground that the innovasion was prior art.Prior art is a well known patent defense, and I for one dont believe that FS$ couldnt have discovered that assigning a keyboard shortcut to a text

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? ironcross32 wrote:no one said anything about wishing any of them ill will, we just dont like the way theyre choosing to do business. does the name really offend you that you have to call us children, i mean come on... Just ignore

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? There is one humorous element to this non-sense.Everybody knows that nobody actually reads those software license agreements software vendors like to put in their installers. So, other than to malign and wish for misfortune to befall

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? and again gene.Stop bashing all of us and making us feel like crap just because you want us to be adults, when most of us arent. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222729#p222729

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Um, Gene might I ask, whered you find out you had to be 18 to join this forum, and who told you if it wasnt from the forum directly? As far as I know there isnt an age restriction on this forum, although that still doesnt mean we

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? ironcross32 wrote:no one said anything about wishing any of them ill will, we just dont like the way theyre choosing to do business. does the name really offend you that you have to call us children, i mean come on... Just ignore

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? ironcross32 wrote:no one said anything about wishing any of them ill will, we just dont like the way theyre choosing to do business. does the name really offend you that you have to call us children, i mean come on... Just ignore

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @superbAre you seriously arguing that a corporation that sued a competetor for infringing a software patent on placemarkers cares more about ethics than profit?I think that you all ought to consider how the screenreader landscape would

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? At this Gene dude:Remember I am indeed still a young teenager, and I wasnt anywhere near the one who came up with the name.I do not wish ill will to a single person in that company, I do not wish death, lawsute, any of that.Not

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @superb;Exactly.Question: Has any of you participating in this silly and childish name calling campaign ever considered doing something constructive and taken your criticisms directly to Freedom Scientific where theyd have the best

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Moderation! @Gene, your general attacks on those who hold opinions opposed to yours are verging close to the personal here. As I said above, Coltonhills use of the joke name for Freedom Scientific is quite a different matter

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Lol and if they so much as try to sue anyone here it will be frivolous as it always is. Every point made in that article is very valid and, even more so the statement that you are hereby agreeing to the license even after so much

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Well, I had to go download the user docs just to find it on there site. LOL. Come on now, I have to go download the help files before I get to see the agreement? You just got to love the following.IF YOU DO NOT ACCEPT THE TERMS

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Hello,Not really, its an opinion based blog, and I think the guy has a very valid point. The fact that just by downloading the software you are already agreeing tthe license agreement is just ridiculous, and that for a developer

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? Yup; it is clear that freedomscientific is willing to put accessibility of software and sites in general a very far distant second to profit. Im just thankful that we have NVDA, and eagerly await the day where I can ditch jaws for good

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @2 Um... a lot of us call them Greedom Science Fiction, trust me, youll hear that name again. secondly, I as well lost any and all respect for them, not that there was much left after their long period of non-innovation and shovelling

greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?

greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? I have a blog post somebody showed me that you all might like. Its about the jfw license agreement which you are instantly bound to, as soon as you click a single download link on the software.Enjoy!http://chrishofstader.com/what-did-i