Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Good good, just thought I'd emphasise that because I did miss the overall flow of your post.  I'm sorry for doing so. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/524467/#p524467 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition @57 never said it has to happen though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/524422/#p524422 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition @Simter, 54, your point doesn't necessarily have to hold valid across the board; I couldn't tell you why you got a phone that acted that way, but that doesn't mean it'll happen to anyone else.  We set up two phones in 30 minutes and didn't come across that issue

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nightshade via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition It has an actual home button. The battery is pretty good for what it is. Seeing AI works well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/524400/#p524400 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cj89 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition So does that mean that the SE has the iPhone 8 style home button? Or is touch ID literally just some new part of the phone that you touch. I have an 11, but would definitely consider selling it for the new SE (touch ID is honestly pretty appealing).I'd love

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Ok. Yesterday i bought my iphoneSE from the apple store. I got the last one of two beeing available. And what to say? It's a nice new iphone. The battery is nice and the touch id is going much faster now. Also the speaker is better then the one in  my 6s and i

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I am using the Beats Studio 3, but I doubt they're the best headphones out there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523810/#p523810 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Haven't done any of the more high-end youtube streaming or anything like that, but I do like what I'm seeing right now as far as HQ audio goes at any rate.  I've used the new SE on TT two nights in a row already and streamed constantly two it for about 12 hours

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition what kind of bloethooth headphones do you use? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523749/#p523749 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I know Bluetooth takes a lot out of audio, but it really is nice to be wireless. i've honestly not used wired headphones with my phone much anymore. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523645/#p523645 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition If my 6s wasn't working as well as it is, I'd consider purchasing this device. It's incredibly good value for the price. The only problem is the missing headphone jack, although I suppose I could always purchase one of those splitter adapters to both charge

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition ah okay cause i was considering switching to IPhone again. but i use discord a lot so kind of worried about the lack of accessibility on that app. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523566/#p523566 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition The SE's battery is the same as in the iPhone 8, while the 11's is much larger. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523565/#p523565 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I thought hte batteries on the 11 and the SE 2020 were supposed to be really good? i'm confused about somone remark a few posts back, I disremember whicn number, say they'd take a 11 or something over the SE? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523557

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Boo15mario via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition i will be going with a samsung a51 for the big screen and their is a head phone jag. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523382/#p523382 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cw via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Until the other day, I was running an IPhone 6s. basically used mine for a bit over 3 years. Now that I switched over to my 11, I am missing the touch ID a bit. One part of me wished I weighted and ordered the SE. What annoys me even more is the no headphone jack

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I mean, anything at this point is going to feel faster than my clunky iPhone 6s+.  But if it tells you anything?  I opened TeamTalk in less than 2 seconds.  UberEats did more or less the same.  Messages took just a tad longer because I had like 30 something

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition How much faster do apps open up would you say? Is there any difference? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/523054/#p523054 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Right, opened and set up.  The dimencions of the se2020 are more like the 7 or 8, meaning if you had a case for a 7 or 8 you could easily use it.  The whole process took less than 30 minutes and the only thing that held it up was that I was playing around

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition @39, Hahahaha!  ON exactly the same page on all counts. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522759/#p522759 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : dardar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I feel like @nightshade and @nocturnus did the same thing as me.I ordered the phone yesterday, then thought wait... Need to get a jac. Then, wait... need to get a new case, damnit! So thought stuff it, and bought a wireless charger too, because why not. Eagerly

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : st . mc via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition guys, can someone record a video with Iphone SE and upload It's audio here? I want to know how It's audio recording Is.also, can anyone record a song from Iphone SE's speakers? I'd like to know how it sounds like.I've never had an Iphone, But I'm planning

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Angel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition @Nocturnus, just use the cases from the 6s, they actualy fit since iPhones don't change much in general.Also looking at you Samsung, you aren't what you used to be, took our jack away and are becoming an apple that runs on android these days.I personaly won't go

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition @34, wait. I honestly don't think upgrading from a ITS max to a new iPhone in 2020 would be worth the price.But the short battery makes me give a hard pass to the phone. It's understandable that it's $399, but it would've been nice to have a better battery.That

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : omer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Black berry,  is the best man wish they kept developing it URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522390/#p522390 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : revan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition hi there,question for you to all hereI have currently Iphone XS maxare worth to upgrade to new model 2020? or notsome people saying 2020 generation's battery will be better than iphone xs max? any advice URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522385/#p522385

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Yeah 30. The phone amazed me at how quick it charged compared to my old J6, but it pissed me off at how quick the battery drained as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522380/#p522380 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition As usual, my stupid brother blamed the quick drainage on me, saying how I was using it charging, even though I did it once and other people was reporting that problem. Its always Jaidon for him. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522382/#p522382

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Received the phones.  Still no cases.  Hope those come soon... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522372/#p522372 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mitch via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition How much better is the battery than the 6S? Running off a 7 right now, and the battery's utter garbage. I know the size isn't that different (having the same battery size but running off of a much more energy-efficient processor. URL: https

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Oh and I'm looking at you too, Samsung. All your phones are becoming the same.Nocturnous, I remember when I was a little kid if you had one of the Alcatel Flip Phones, with the slideout keyboards, or a Blackberry you were the talk of the town. I remember when my

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition TBH I dont really need a headphone jack, as I rarely use it, but when I had my iPhone 7, I used it to do some music creation stuff. The main problem is the fact that you can't listen to music, while your phone is charging. And in about 2 years, Apple will release

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition @Aaron, there are ways around it that aren't too horrible.  I'm not holding my breath for great improvements to bluetooth either, but maybe someday... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522307/#p522307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : avensis via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I don't need a new phone yet, it will probably be my next phone URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522201/#p522201 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : aaron via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition The no headphone jack is honestly a bit of a dealbreaker for me. Why did they come up with that a few years back? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522171/#p522171 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Had a nostalgic moment with a couple of buddies of mine yesterday, talking about old Motorola razors and tiny Nokia phones.  That, was small! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522170/#p522170 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ivan_soto via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I preordered the phone, and it's arriving tomorrow.I'll make sure to come on here and let you all know it goes, but I'm assuming that for me, the actual phone won't be that different because I have the iPhone XR, but I plan to sell off the XR as I like my home

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : burak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Hello,4s was my favourite. This is going to be my next phone too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/522043/#p522043 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : dan_c via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition This will most likely be my next phone as well.the early reviews look very promising, and it's got touch ID, which I love due to the ease of use and how you can just get things done privately without having to move the phone.  I've got the 6s at the moment

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Thatguy via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I'm very proud to still own an iphone 4S and an iPhone SE, first generation. I use my 4S as an iPod now and it still runs beautifully. Heck if I could, I'd still be using that as the phone I carried around every day. Unfortunately, I can't get the big sim cards

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Hi.Remember those tiny 3.5 Inch iPhones we had back in 2011 or so? Dang, fun times.I just spoke to my phone contract provider and sadly I can't renew my contract and get a phone just yet. I can renew in August next year though so i will stick with my iPhone 8Plus

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : omer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition 10, if you think your outdated, i seemed to be an ainchenti have an iphone 5s lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521882/#p521882 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I also forgot. In trinidad, this new phone will be about 3000 dollars. About a year ago, the old SE was going for 4200 dollars. So yeah the SE2 is a much better bargin, than even the old ones. BTW that's in the verifyied Apple stores, aka iWorld. URL: https

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition In a world where economy phones are 5.8 inches and up, 4.7 inches is pretty damn small in my book. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521880/#p521880 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition @10 lol i have 6s as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521873/#p521873 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : michaelhoffman1976 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition the 8 was pretty small i thought. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521866/#p521866 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Gotta love the size.  Not quite as small as the 4s, which I fell in love with, but it'll work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521865/#p521865 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : SirBadger via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I was interested but the main reason I loved the old SE is it's nice and small. when will apple realise that not everybody in the world wants a big screen to watch videos on? also that big screen uses battery. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521822

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition This will probably be my next phone. I'm currently on the 8, so not much will change for me besides the speed, and I couldn't care less about all this crap the new phones have. I don't need three super duper cameras, edgeless screens, or fancy face ID (which

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition It's the best compromise for anyone who has a super outdated piece of crap as we do... Here's looking at you iPhone 6s+; you were good for your time... But who doesn't want to pay the outrageous price of one of the crazier 11 versions.  Actually?  IN the long run

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I have not preordered it but will also soon get it. It's cheap for an iphone and also it has touch idea and probably also the good old 3d touch home button. I tested the homebutton thingy on the newer phones and i don't like it at all, cause i didn't test it much

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I know a few people out there are going to coast about the fact that this is a rebadged iPhone 8, however let's be real. If Apple didn't do that, they would have never got the price so low. Its a damn good bargnin in my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Thatguy via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I preordered it as well. According to UPS.com, my new phone  is currently in a post office in Korea. It's supposed to be here by Friday, but I'm not sure if that'll really be happening. If you like, you can check out MKBHD's review videos of the iPhone SE2020

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition Hi.At 4 yeah it's mostly based on the iPhone 8 with an updated CPU and I think more Ram. Apparently the batterie performance meets the one in the iPhone 7 and the build in camera comes from the XR.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521732

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : swigjr23 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I don't need a new phone yet, but this will probably e my next phone. I really don't like looking at my phone to unlock it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521722/#p521722 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition So apparently its an iPhone eight, with an Eleven's powerplant. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521721/#p521721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nightshade via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition We both Nocturnus and I preordered it. It comes out Friday. As soon as we get it, we'll report back on what its like. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521697/#p521697 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : st . mc via Audiogames-reflector
Re: iPhone SE 2020 edition I don't think It's out yet. It was said to be released in April 24th URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521671/#p521671 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

iPhone SE 2020 edition

2020-04-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector
iPhone SE 2020 edition Do any of you have the new iPhone SE 2020 edition yet? if so, how do you like it and how is the battery life on the phone? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/521668/#p521668 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com