Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA I'm using a Handy Tech Braille display and I didn't need to download anything at all. It just worked without problems.Also, I switched off those damn "No display connected" messages. It's under options, braille. Not in the settings changer, but in the main Jaws Window. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622669/#p622669 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
2021-03-14
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Re: questions before installing NVDA @22 and 23: Thanks, I'll check them out.@25: The difficult thing with Handy Tech displays is that JAWS comes with a pre-installed driver for Handy Tech braille displays, only it seem s to be an outdated one, so you have to download an additional one fromthe Handy Tech site, install it and that's really annoying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622653/#p622653 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA Yes. I think what happened then was FS had a program that enabled braille display developers to have signed drivers before FS would allow them drivers into the product. It was $5000 a year for those braille display developers to get the signed drivers to FS so that FS could put the signed drivers into JAWS. The irony was that the reason this came into the place was that when JAWS was updated, whatever the braille display the person had stopped working with JAWS and the drivers needed constant updating. Fortunately these days we're heading to a human interface standard for those devices.If you really want to hear more about why this was put into place you can go tohttp://podcast.freedomscientific.com/FS … er2009.mp3 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622415/#p622415 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA interesting, I remember I was having a lot of problems when i was trying to use a display with Jaws back then URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622410/#p622410 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA @1You may find this guide on switching from JAWS to NVDA useful.https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-commun … JawsToNVDA URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622401/#p622401 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA Hello. Also, their is a guide that talks about switching from JAWS to NVDA.The guide can be found at this linkhttps://gttprogram.blog/2018/12/20/swit … B7-github/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622384/#p622384 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: questions before installing NVDA Again, JAWS, for me, insofar that I can remember, has not had any problem with display drivers or installing any extra hardware or assistive devices such as braille displays. It has to be said though, I find JAWS to work faster with braille displays. It doesn't lag or anything. Whereas NVDA if you start working fast with one, it will freeze faster than JAWS. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622373/#p622373 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA oh, that never happens with me, i mean i'm not useing a display, mabey that's why. i'm useing a focus 40. pritty fansy, i just have a plug that i plug in the back next to the charger port then plug it in tot he side of the focus, works fine with jaws, most of the time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622372/#p622372 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA that is another reason why I don't use Jaws. using most hardware devices like braille displays plane work better with NVDA. No messing with display drivers, no need to mess with a box to add a display to jaws, and the worse thing for me was that it did not even work after adding a display when I tried that with Jaws 2014 with one I used back then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622368/#p622368 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
2021-03-12
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Re: questions before installing NVDA @17: Agreed. And I haven't yet found a way to turn this off.Installing a braille display with JAWS (drivers and such) is also very difficult sometimes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622364/#p622364 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA NVDA will automatically detect the Handy tech braille series. I have only the Handy tech Connect 40, and the first time I tried it, I didn't really need to do anything. In fact, I love NVDA's automatic detection of braille displays as opposed to JAWS. JAWS has this annoying dialog where, when you disconnect the braille display, it keeps saying "no Braille Display detected". It's hell annoying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622363/#p622363 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: questions before installing NVDA with braille displays NVDA should auto detect the display if has the driver installed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622348/#p622348 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA I don't know how braille displays work with NVDA.However, for AddOn's I'm going to send you to the link below, so that when you get to that point you'll be easily able to grab AddOn's that suit your needs. Common ones are NVDA Remote, speech history, ETC.https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622326/#p622326 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA it should detect the display. I don't remember if you have to set it up in nvda though... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622323/#p622323 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
2021-03-12
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Re: questions before installing NVDA @10: To try it and to see if I like it better than JAWS. I've also heard you can do more with it because of add-ons.Another question: Will it be very complicated to get my braille display (Handy Tech Active Star) to work with NVDA? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622306/#p622306 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA @MatthewINS+6 > Miscellanous settings > Use Video Intercept.@9 would also be happy with this settings, as the JAWS display driver can be then very well removed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622279/#p622279 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA Well, each screen reader has its advantages and I have come to the conclusion that none of them is better than any of the two. I use NVDA full time, although I have JAWS 2021 installed in my computer. JAWS doesn't take that many resources on your system, at least not as many as it would make the use of your computer sluggish.To briefly answer a few questions: you can have both screen readers installed on your computer, but running them both at the same time won't be a good idea. I personally decide having JAWS speak at the log-on screen and NVDA running as the primary screen reader. You need to learn a few things when switching to, or using NVDA, particularly the screen layout, and the way NVDA works on the web. For instance, the default screen layout of NVDA is to present all the clicable elements within a single line, but that can be switched off within the browse mode settings. Some things are also different on the web, noteably, the rap into top function found in JAWS is not on NVDA and you will need to jump to the top of the page to interact with the elements in the beginning of a page.NVDA is that small because what you are getting is the very basic installer that will of course be extracted and the full size will go up to 100 MB. However, the true functionality of NVDA lies within add-ons. They will increase the size of NVDA. NVDA also doesn't install any driver that is specific and native to the screen reader, nor does it install any additional components that aide the funcionality of it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622278/#p622278 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA trying new things is good URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622276/#p622276 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA Just wondering, why are you installing NVDA anyway? As a previous post stated, if you're good with JAWS, probably best to stick with it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622272/#p622272 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA another thing you might noticed NVDA will not eat as much resorces from your system as Jaws would while running. I refuse to install jaws on any of my systems as I know it will cause a lot of problems with my system configuration as I use a display driver that gets updates allmost every month. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622267/#p622267 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
2021-03-12
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Re: questions before installing NVDA Thank you for your answers so far! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622259/#p622259 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA @5Where's the intercept driver, and what part of my post are you exactly referring to? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622257/#p622257 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA it looks like 3 questions are answered.4: yeah. when you install it, it becomes arround 120mb. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622252/#p622252 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: questions before installing NVDA @3, not true, if you disable the intercept driver then most stuff are read correctly. I have told this a thousant and one time on the forum, and so did Munawar if I recall correctly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622244/#p622244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA to answer a few questions:1: There are no conflicts.2: I would suggest disabling jaws before installing nvda. The setup is self-voicing and nvda will start after the instalation.3: most of the keys are the same. there are a few differences, but you'll have to go into the "commands quick refference" to find that out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622241/#p622241 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA NVDA comes out of the box pretty boring... That's why there's AddOns though.No, in my experience there's not a huge learning curv for NVDA, but there's a few places it's different than JAWS.NVDA, you'll notice, reads the screen a bit differently than JAWS does... I haven't found out yet whether it's for the worst or for the better, but it really depends on what you prefer. You'll also notice that a few more things are accessible using NVDA than JAWS because of this different way of screen reading.You can usehttps://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.htmlfor help finding AddOns you would like to use.To answer your first question... No, I have JAWS and NVDA installed on the same computer. If they're both running at the same time it can cause problems but as long as there's only one running at the same time you should be OK.I'd disable JAWS just after clicking enter on the exe file, and just after it gives you the user account control dialogue. Press alt y as usual on that dialogue and whenever it throws you onto the installer app screen you can disable jaws there.Hope this helps,Matthew URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622240/#p622240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: questions before installing NVDA
Re: questions before installing NVDA If you're good with JAWS, stay with JAWS. Its heavens better than NVDA in my subjective opinion, yet i try to answer some of your question. Some I will omit in order not to sound too negative1. No conflicts, assuming that both are not running.2. Better yes. Keyboard conflicts might occur and NVDA speaks when installing.3. How do I know? I didnt have any problem when switching from NVDA to JFW. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622237/#p622237 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
questions before installing NVDA
2021-03-12
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questions before installing NVDA Hi,I am thinking about installing NVDA, but I have some questions before I do:1. Are there any conflicts if JAWS and NVDA are installed (NOT running) on the same computer?2. Do I need to disable JAWS before installing NVDA?3. Are there a lot of things to relearn when installing NVDA?4. And last but not least: How is NVDA that small? I mean, the .exe-file I downloaded from their website was only 24,5 MB or so. Why is it so much smaller than JAWS or does it get bigger when installed? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622235/#p622235 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
