Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler Maybe I remember then wrong but I thought the keys needed more pressure to push. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490178/#p490178 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler What post 7 described is the mount batten brailer.While they have their uses, doing maths on them isn't exactly ideal.You need something like the manual, or I guess, even the electric perkins brailer.I saw one once at the place where I did work experience.Apparently it can be useful if you have a shoulder injury because you don't need to aply pressure when using it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490116/#p490116 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler hi.I used an eletric brailler back in school.For me; it wasn't that different to a regular brailler although as you say, the keys were softer.I also remember this... Block of wood thing where you'd put the paper in and there was this table, it would hold the paper flat so it was easier to read. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490114/#p490114 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
2020-01-02
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Re: The electric perkins brailler Hi guys! Talking of braillers and writting in braille, for those who are interested, I've made a configuration for the BBREK keyboard in wich you use the little keyboard as a Perkins Brailler. You will use the normal six keys for writting all your letters and simbols, the 7th dot is used for going down a line and the 8th dot for going back one character and deleting it, sort of a backspace.In this way, I can use BBREK as a Perkins Brailler with almost all my bluetooth devices like PC, Cell or Tablet.In this configuration there are also the normal Pc/Talkback commands I use most!In my opinion, BBREK is a great small keyboard that cost about !%= Euros.Ok, you don't have the possibility to write directly in braille but you could use your braille knoledge for writting in many apps of your bluetooth devices; not bad at all! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490112/#p490112 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler Why was the electric brailler harder to braille with? Or do you mean easier? It is a lot easier and faster to press the keys on the electric brailler than it is on a regular brailler. Also, the 3 solenoid parts of the electric brailler are: the solenoid housing, solenoid pins, and solenoid plunger kit. The regular manual brailler does not have the solenoid parts that the electric brailler has. And, just for your information, a solenoid is a coil of wire that acts as a magnet when an electric current is applied to it. So since it acts like a magnet, I imagine the electric brailler is a lot louder because the magnetic solenoids hammer or shoot the styli against the paper super fast and with a strong punch force, making the electric brailler very loud like a computer braille embosser. I still want to buy one of these electric braillers. I like stuff that is real loud and sounds interesting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490007/#p490007 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler We had 1 in kindergarten we thought it was the coolest thing as it was loud and harder to Braille with. Looking back on it now it didn't do anything that a regular Braille Writer couldn't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489768/#p489768 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler I also had an image-writer printer. It sounded cool if you made it print lines of dashes or underscore or underline characters. Or if you put control h backspace control characters into the file you could make it back up a character and write over what it already printed. Oh and don't get me started on the escape character sequences I threw at it, I made the thing print curvy futuristic-looking fonts and letters and stuff. It was fun. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489644/#p489644 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler Oh, I remember the Braille 'n' Print. I used one when I was in elementary school. It was connected to an imagewriter. Good times. Which, by that I mean, one more loud, cumbersome device that was already outdated by the time I used it which made me stand out. Hooray! To be fair, the Imagewriter did sound pretty cool, especially when I look back on it now, but my classmates surely didn't think so. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489637/#p489637 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler When I used the electric brailler back in 2011 I did not have any shorting out issues or fires. According to the perkins website, the new electric braillers are more energy efficient and work much better than the old ones in the 1980s. As for why I want to use one and have one? The note-takers like the brailleNote and orbit reader are nice. But I like to have important information backed up with hard copy braille. And I want to write that braille as fast as possible, manually, so I can format it how I wish. And the electric brailler is cheaper than a braille embosser. And since I do not have any hand difficulties, the advantage for me, therefore, is the ability to write paper braille much faster than with a manual brailler. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489621/#p489621 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler When I used the electric brailler back in 2011 I did not have any shorting out issues or fires. According to the perkins website, the new electric braillers are more energy efficient and work much better than the old ones in the 1980s. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489621/#p489621 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler At school I probably used the Mountbatten for a year or two, and then I got a notetaker from Technibraille called the Zephyr, and I still have it somewhere. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489498/#p489498 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler Some iterations of the Mountbatten even had doubletalk speech. As for the electric brailler, nowadays it's not worth it unless you have someone with a fine-motor difficulty. Obviously it screams of 1980s circuitry, what with the occasional yet not expected short-circuit that could cause the thing to literally blow a fuse and catch fire. Not energy-efficient at all. Better still if it's all you can afford and you need physical braille, it still does the job well. I used it back in 2008/09, but definitely grew out of it, and it once math went digital on the Braillenote Touch I had no use for the brailler, so I sold it off to someone who could use it more than I could. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489495/#p489495 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler Actually I found back the one I was talking about, it was a Mountbatten writer. So the electric perkins brailler must be something else. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489493/#p489493 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler At post7. You are probably thinking of the braille n print. With the braille n print which has been discontinued, not made anymore. You take the bottom off a regular perkins brailler then put the brailler on top of a box with some electronics in it which captures the mechanical action of the brailler. And the box plugs into an old printer, the loud printers that used ink ribbons, then you could braille, and every few lines the box would back-translate your grade2 braille and the printer would print it out so a sighted person could read it. As for going green. How do you go green, so to speak, and learn or teach spatial math concepts to young students around 7 or 8 years old? You can't do long division on a refreshable braille display with only one line. Also setting up and displaying tables is quite difficult with braille displays, since they only have one line of braille unless you can pay $2500 for the canute360 multiline display. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489469/#p489469 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler I had a friend at my previous school who had very serious problem with her hands. He used that machine because it helped her press the keys, however we had to carry that for her becxause the device is much heavier than the regular braille machine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489448/#p489448 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler I've used some kind of electric Perkins Brailler back in the early 2000s at school. It had a switch to turn it on and off, a volume wheel as the thing makes a few beeps in a musical way when it is turned on or off, and above the perkins keyboard were three round buttons with quite some space between them. The one in the middle was used to enter codes to modify certain settings if I remember correctly. The one on the left and on the right had oval buttons right under them, and the oval button under the right round button was used to validate the codes I talked about earlier. Also this thing could be connected to a printer, and it's probably why they switched me from the manual to the electric perkins eventually, as not all the teachers I had could read braille.Is this the model you were talking about? I guess there were probably more recent itterations since then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489424/#p489424 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler wow this is the first time I here about electric perkins brailler! I uses regular manual perkins brailler URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489415/#p489415 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler I tried it and meh... not really worth in in my opinion. Its boring. I would rather use the note taker or whatever, plus the tendency to go green is on the rise, so yeah. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489395/#p489395 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler Also on that same website i gave to you, if you go to accessories or the parts page, you will see the electric brailler has more parts than the manual perkins brailler that costs around $770 or so. The manual standard or traditional perkins brailler that you all are familiar with costs $770 and has less parts than this electric perkins model which costs around $995 or so. And i saw in its parts list, some of the parts used to build it and you can buy and fix it if it breaks if you know how to fix the electrical components, some of those parts are solenoid parts. Maybe the solenoids make the electric brailler really loud like an embosser. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489382/#p489382 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler No. I saw an electric perkins brailler back in 1985 or so. Do not confuse this with the perkins smart brailler that costs $2000 or so. The electric perkins brailler costs around $995. It has a power cord coming out of the side, an on off switch, the only difference between the manual brailler and electric brailler is as I said, it uses solenoids and other stuff to hammer the styluses into the paper against the metal carriage top to make the dot. And I can tell you it is quite a bit louder than a manual perkins brailler. So as far as I know, the electric perkins which lets you braille much faster, came out maybe in the mid 70s or early to mid 1980s. Here is a link for the electric perkins brailler that I am talking about. With the manual brailler you have to press the keys quite hard. But with this electric perkins brailler, you just lightly tap the keys like you are typing on a computer keyboard or braille display keyboard. The link is:https://brailler.perkins.org/products/e … s-brailler URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489380/#p489380 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler No. I saw an electric perkins brailler back in 1985 or so. Do not confuse this with the perkins smart brailler that costs $2000 or so. The electric perkins brailler costs around $995. It has a power cord coming out of the side, an on off switch, the only difference between the manual brailler and electric brailler is as I said, it uses solenoids and other stuff to hammer the styluses into the paper against the metal carriage top to make the dot. And I can tell you it is quite a bit louder than a manual perkins brailler. So as far as I know, the electric perkins which lets you braille much faster, came out maybe in the mid 70s or early to mid 1980s. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489380/#p489380 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: The electric perkins brailler
Re: The electric perkins brailler But why would a more modern iteration of the brailler be louder? That doesn't make much sense to me. I always assumed that it would be quieter and more efficient. Wasn't this thing created less than 10 years ago? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489375/#p489375 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
