Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-07-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : tmstuff000 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I believe the reason why Windows Defender thinks it's a virus is that for some reason, it installs itself in the Windows directory. That is not a good behaviour for a program installer.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-07-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cj89 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

What exactly does this Sapi 5 eloq do? Windows defender was pretty serious about flagging it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-07-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@Joshknnd1982: Perhaps because there was never a true software rendering of the Rc8660 chipset? There's Monologue and the Soundblaster soundcard speech synthesizer, but Monologue is most definitely different from Double Talk, and the Soundblaster speech system is not really a software speech synthesizer, but was rather generated by the hardware of said soundcards.The other problem is that there are no real store rooms that actually preserve this hardware unfortunately. I have a Road Runner that is seemingly unable to pose as an actual! Doubletalk LT, never mind the fact it has the same serial connection. The Dectalk Express is still in use as is the Braille-n-Speak. It's not just speech synths that are hard to emulate and get into software form, think of the many consumer electronics that are just now being emulated through Mame.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-07-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

and speaking of sapi5 stuff. I contacted RC-systems about the possibility of them making a sapi5 doubleTalk. they said it is not possible because doubleTalk is no longer under active development. So, I guess we will lose yet another speech synthesizer to history and abandonware. too bad there is not some organization dedicated to preserving old access tech such as doubleTalks.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-07-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : tmstuff000 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Seems there is nothing more we can do with the .ini file that makes the thing more stable. I checked the Code Factory .ini file, and it was identical to mine. It must be something about the interface it self. Perhaps I should try to copy some dll files over.Best regardsT-m

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-06-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jaybird via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

DRM is digital rights management, any technique for insuring software or content can only be used under a restricted set of circumstances, to try to prevent piracy. E.G. you can only install this software on three computers, you can only play this music on a device which is signed in to your account, etc.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-06-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : FamilyMario via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Digital Rights Management.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-06-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : adel . spence via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

one question. what is a drm?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-06-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Slender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

From what I've heard, mainly the need to phone home every month to validate your license, and if the validation fails you get a "please register this product" message, as well as a three computer limit which could be very easy to trigger if you forget to deactivate your license somewhere.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-06-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Maulwurf83 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Hi!@91 and 92 what is bad about the codefactory eloquence and its drm?Just wanting to know.GreetingsDennis

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2019-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : tmstuff000 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I managed to build the eci.ini file. I can now choose the voice as a default in the 32 bit speech control panel, but as soon as I start fiddeling with the rate in NVDA, it crashes. It hasn't crashed JAWS however, but it pauses between words, a JAWS behaviour I have experienced once before, when I got a Microsoft Server voice to work with SAPI5. But that doesn't really matter since JAWS has it's own stable Eloquence in place.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2018-01-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Orko via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I'm not surprised, it had a nasty habit of crashing.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2018-01-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ammericandad2005 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

datajake, I noticed a while ago that you deleted the binaries for your sapi5 eloquence.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2018-01-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

i bought another eloquence sapi5 license. but their drm is still stupid and I'd rather use a stable sapi5 eloquence without the stupid drm tied to it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2018-01-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : flackers via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Does anyone know how to get these sorts of sapi voices to show up and stay in the TTS settings list on windows 7 64bit? I use the run command C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl, and that makes my tts voices show up temporarily, but they dont' stick, and I can't use them for narrator, only MS anna shows up. I do have a copy of codefactory's eloquence but it sucks to the point I don't use it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2018-01-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Orko via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Yeah, that would be nice. I paid for Code Factory's Eloquence for Windows, so I have a legitimate license to use it, I'd just prefer not to have to deal with the piece of crap DRM they and Nuance put on it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2018-01-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Victorious via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Bump, would like to know if any updates have been made to this, particularly for the crashing issue.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-11-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

has the eloquence crashing been fixed yet with sapi5?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-11-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : luiscarlosgm via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I for example for the spanish voices: As you may know, we can add for example "Eloquence Voice name" for example in Lat.Am. Spanish voices: Eloquence José, Eloquence Marisol, Eloquence Panchito, ETC.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-11-02 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@koltinhill, so what ini file do I need so sapi5 free eloquence works correctly and does not crash?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-11-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I only have 3gigs of ram on this old early 2005 emergency laptop with windows10 pro 64bit and the normal eloquence for NVDA does not crash, just the sapi5 free one. maybe somewhere in an ini file much lower ram has to be specified or something? not sure.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : btman16 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Hi,As for the crashing:@Datajake: My progress with it on the slow laptop (the one with 8.1 home) cut out mid-sentence and crashed.To everyone wondering about crashing: On my windows 8.1 desktop with 12 gb of ram, 64 bit I cannot get it to crash with NVDA at all really. Sometimes it does but it runs for several hours at a time and I can use it instead of the Eloquence driver.So, this leads me to a conclusion that it may have to do with RAM. Then the latest RS_prerelease insider build (rs_prerelease.14955 32 bit on a vm had major issues too. That vm had 4 gb of ram.Thanks,Brandon

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I don't know. I neede to figure out how languages and voices are structured in sapi.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jaybird via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I have some Python code to interact with the Eloquence DLL, do you think it'd help? I didn't write it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I want to do that too, but I don't know how.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jaybird via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Any chance of adding the ability to choose which of the standard Eloquence voices is used? E.G., Reed, Glen, Rocko, Grampa, etc. Sorry if these spellings are off.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Yes.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

so jake are you saying it still crashes?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I want to add the other languages, but I don't know enough about sapi or c++ to add the languages as sapi voices. For now, you can use the standard eloquence language tags.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : luiscarlosgm via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Can you da languages?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Yes. I just added volume support.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

does it still crash and give tons of errors when you go to uninstall it?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I added pitch support to the sapi5 eloquence driver.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sean-Terry01 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Hi all, I know this is a bit OT, but, I have Revo v 2.0 something, and It seems to be no longer accessible, even with using the OBJ Nav keys with NVDA. Is there any way to get the latest accessible version? Thanks a lot.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ammericandad2005 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@coltenhill01 could you post the ini file?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

me too I wonder what ini file we are missing so it does not crash?

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=284421#p284421





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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@coltonhill01 can you put the corrected sapi5 eloquence up, the one that does not crash?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

What changes were made in the ini file?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

LOL! That's the hazard with programs like Revo, if you get too aggressive with it, it can damage other programs with similar components. In your case, it probably deleted the Eloquence files for both JAWS and NVDA.I'm sorry to laugh, I know it's not funny, it just struck me because I've had to learn the lesson about being aggressive with Revo myself.Now, I just do it's standard level scanning, but if I feel the need for some aggressiveness, I manually step through all the files and registry entries it wants to delete before letting it proceed.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

sure, could you put that version up with the ini file it needs? and I'll try it. if worse comes to worse, I can remove it using revo uninstaller 1.95 that is what i used to get rid of the crashing eloq sapi5. but then i had to uninstall and reinstall NVDA afterwards, and then also had to do a repair on my jaws17 because revo did too good of a job. it got rid of eloq sapi5 and then some more stuff on top of that.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-26 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : coltonhill01 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

the deal with it's crashing is because it needs a special ini, that I have assembled, for it to work properly. The version I have has the source, but if you want I can remove it from the zip before uploading it. It doesn't lag, it works perfectly, fastest sapi voice I've seen in NVDA. Do be warned though that to install or uninstall it you have to be using an admin command prompt when you run the batch file.

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=284206#p284206





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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : austingrace via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

It seemed to keep up well with nvda but did not try games with it. I threw it on my desktop computer which is not my main machine.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I didn't get any problems unregistering DLLs when I uninstalled it, but I did have to go around and clean up after it. It was rather hit and miss whether the uninstaller removed stuff or not. Some things I expected not to be removed by the installer because it didn't create them, they were made by the program itself, but there were plenty of things the installer should have removed but didn't.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

also when i tried uninstalling it, it gave unable to unregister various dll files all over the place. and when i play games with it it is laggy and sometimes speech does not keep up.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Again, why use it in Jaws when you have the built-in eloquence driver?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Does it crash your NVDA like it does mine? It also crashes jaws and lags a bit in audio games.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : austingrace via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Hello. I'm running windows 10 64 bit and I can't find this under both speech control panels. But I do see it with NVDA.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

nope I just tested it and it still crashes. I'll download the source and take a look.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

so the crashing problems are now fixed?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

The source code is at http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/sa … ce-src.zipI finally figured out how to build it. After building it on my windows XP machine, I tested the build on windows 2000, and it worked, as the older build didn't. I updated the file that I linked to in post 1 with the newer build included.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

http://grossgang.com/tts/sapi_voices/sa … ce-src.zip

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

if we could have the source for this maybe we could fix it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Thanks for sharing this, Jake. that's wonderful. and thanks to those who code this as well.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : slender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

No, unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh and by the way, it's  like this, if you're using SAPI.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : slender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

No, unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh and by the way, it's  like this, if you're using SAPI. 

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : slender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

No, unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh and by the way, it's  like this, if you're using SAPI. 

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : slender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

No, unfortunately, it doesn't. Oh and by the way, it's  like this, if you're using SAPI.  

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I just tried playing Spoonbill Software's Uno, it started but with the speaking rate running very fast despite that I lowered the rate setting in the control panel. Then I tried reducing the speaking rate with the F8 key while in Uno and it hung the game.So, I'm uninstalling this is non functional and going back to code Factory's version. I'll suffer with their crappy DRM because it works.Thanks for the try anyways. Better luck next time.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ammericandad2005 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

same thing, I tested it with NVDA and it nearly crashed it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I have jaws version 14, and while sapi does work (tested with dectalk) it's very slow responding. So don't recommend it unless someone posted a eloquence crashword and you need to get around it or something.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : afrim via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

JAWS works reasonably well with Sappi 5 voices, In my memory, there is not a time when Sappi5 crashed itself, or made JAWS crash.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Apparently they have, I'm running JAWS 17 and a while ago I was experimenting with a number of legally free SAPI voices to see if any of them were any good, and had no problems with JAWS crashing while using SaPI, though I do agree that you are just better off using the integrated Eloquence unless you simply don't like the voice.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Chris via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

The SAPI driver for Jaws is extremely buggy. I'd advise people not to use SAPI with JFW. The last time I tried using that was with the Neo Speech voices with different versions of Jaws like 11, 12 and 14. ON all those versions, the screen reader constantly crashed. Unless FS has actually improved there buggy SAPI driver, you are better off just using the integrated Eloquence or Vocalizer drivers.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I tried it with manamon and some other games where you can select your sapi, and it works. Trying to select it as the main voice from the control panel, however, doesn't work and just crashes it. Will probably just uninstall it, was only curius and can get free and legal voices anyway.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

In Windows 7 Home Premium x86, I haven't had it crash on me yet, but then I've only just set it up and set the speaking rate. I will try it with some games that use SAPI a little later today, and report back with my results. I'm not going to even think about altering my JAWS set up, it's working great, and if it isn't broke, don't fix it!

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

with windows 10 64 bit, I managed to make the sapi5 eloquence crash in speech control panel. if you choose eloquence and test the voice after it is done reading the stop button just stays there. if you hit the stop button the whole sapi5 tts control panel crashes.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : JasonBlaze via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

[[wow]] yeah, it crashes

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : JasonBlaze via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

seriously, thanks for this 

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@figment just to try it or test it out. that's all. and found it crashes.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I am interested in the source code. I am not a programmer but maybe can take a look anyway and try and figure out why it is not completely stable and is crashing with jaws and screen readers.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Since JAWS comes with Eloquence, why would you want to switch to the SAPI version?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

hey just to let you all know this sapi5 eloquence crashes my NVDA and if you try using it with jaws it will crash jaws and you gotta run NVDA then find jaws in the system tray and reset your jaws profile back to jaws eloquence and (not) sapi5 eloquence. also I got reports win10 narrator does not see this eloquence.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : twynn92 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Well, if anyone wants to explore the installation directory, it's located at:C:\Windows\Speech\EloqAlso at a guess, I believe it uses "ttseng.dll" to output, so you can explore that as well.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

mastodont, this place isn't exactly pirate-free. Technically with software, if a company were to look at this forum, such as, oh, let's say Adobe or one of the others, and saw tons of cracks to their software, this site could get in legal trouble, so it really can't be allowed on here. For the record, this site does appear on the top of the search result lists quite a bit, so keep that in mind. And yes, it's true that this free sapi5 eloquence package is piracy. Not pirating the code factory version, because that version had nothing to do with the free package, but using the Eloquence dll without paying "royalties" to Nuance, whom owns it. Nuance wracks in way too much cash that they seem to turn a semi-blind eye to this whole thing. For example, they were enraged at the multitude of cracked android eloquence apk's floating around, but pinned the blame, or at least part of it, on code factory for not having a strong drm system. Same for Vocalizer
  for Nvda. But then again, couldn't the controversy go far beyond that? It was said that when jailbroken, using other voices with your devices, like the Tom voice, was illegal. So couldn't using Siri voices for nvda be considered illegal as well? And what about those Nuance ports of Loquendo and Svox voices that made it to the mac, but not nvda? A lot of unanswered questions, you could pretty much gets lost in the noise if using a free eloquence package, for example, just as long as there's a source for cash somewhere. It's almost like Microsoft. They hate piracy yet learn to semi-embrace it, i e, they could care less if you're running a pirated windows since they have billions of paying customers as it is. None of this makes the piracy justified, or right, just stating points that this is not completely a yes or no question, due to there not being much transparency when it comes to the tts corporations. Sure, there's a crap ton of information if you lo
 ok in the right places, like the history of the acquisitions and what became of them, but what about now? Why do some companies get new Vocalizer Voices before others? Why has the trend been continuing for so long where Apple, of all companies, gets all the new voices, apart from the fact that they've struck a partnership? What about Code Factory, who managed to get Richie, an Indian English voice, into Vocalizer for sapi5? See how it is?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I think what has happened is that the sapi5 dll has become unregistered somehow.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@mastodontEven though they were very expensive, I paid for JAWS and Open Book because they work extremely well for me and are more than worth the price paid. If I couldn't afford them, I'd have looked for an alternative solution. I would not have pirated them no matter how much I might have wanted them.@joshknnd1982If I were an NVDA user, I'd first buy Code Factory's Eloquence to get a legitimate license, then use the Eloquence add-on that Datajake1999 has made available in other threads on these forums. Then use SAPI only for programs that need it.@devinpraterIn June of last year, I downloaded this file from Jim Kitchen's web site. It was described as being able to fix SAPI.https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/0nuecpWarning: Use at your own risk! I have never used it, so I can't vouch for whether it works or not. Also, consider that for whatever reason,
  it was removed from the site quite a while ago.If you try it, I hope it helps.Don't tell me what to do or not do! I don't go around telling people not to pirate software, it's there choice, and I respect that. I choose not to be a theif and pay for the software I use, it's my choice, please respect that. I will post when and where I want to, and you have no right to tell me to do otherwise.I just object to people trying to claim that what they are doing isn't pirating software when they and everyone else knows that it is.And, no I don't use that program or play any of those games.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@mastodontEven though they were very expensive, I paid for JAWS and Open Book because they work extremely well for me and are more than worth the price paid. If I couldn't afford them, I'd have looked for an alternative solution. I would not have pirated them no matter how much I might have wanted them.@joshknnd1982If I were an NVDA user, I'd first buy Code Factory's Eloquence to get a legitimate license, then use the Eloquence add-on that Datajake1999 has made available in other threads on these forums. Then use SAPI only for programs that need it.@devinpraterIn June of last year, I downloaded this file from Jim Kitchen's web site. It was described as being able to fix SAPI.https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/0nuecpWarning: Use at your own risk! I have never used it, so I can't vouch for whether it works or not. Also, consider that for whatever reason,
  it was removed from the site quite a while ago.If you try it, I hope it helps.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I found microsoft visual c++ 6 and a serial number for it. I installed it on my windows xp machine and tried compiling it with no luck. I also installed the microsoft speech sdk 5.1. When I asked the developer of this sapi5 eloquence library if I needed anything else to build this, he said he didn't know.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

For those who are so into antipiracy stuff, just don't comment on these threads. Ever used Mush-Z? Ever played Japanese games? Ever played Beatstar or Rythem Rage? Well guess what. Those have pirated sounds. So come off your high horse and return to Earth for a little while.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : devinprater via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

Anyone know how to reregister sapi5 dll so I can use these engines again?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : joshknnd1982 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I am using NonVisual Desktop Access (NVDA)Version: try-comPortNoFriendly-13645,a24d1787  and it crashes frequently. however, if i use with jim kitchens games and other stuff it works ok or seems to so this may be an nvda try build issue.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jaybird via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@datajake1999: I know you can do temporary changes, but I'm looking for a way to have it come up with a certain voice with certain parameters by default, like the Code Factory version can. Do you think the source code would help here and if so, how was it compiled?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@figmentI was thinking the same thing, it seems that this place is slowly turning into a pirate free forum. The next step is for admins to allow pirated games and that's it. my conscience is clear aswell, usually I pay only for the things that I think are worth it, some software have such ridiculous prices that it would take me an year just for a license. And then I should work an other year just to buy the update which is clear and utter robbing.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@mastodontYou  are right that this is piracy, no matter how other people, like garrett, might try to justify their stealing, with claims that it isn't piracy. It doesn't matter when this version was created, Nuance acquired it from somebody, who either was the original developer, or somebody that acquired it from its developer. It has never been free or abandoned, so any use without a properly acquired license is stealing and thus piracy.I'm using this package with a clear conscience because I did buy and use, until now, the Code Factory version of Eloquence, so I have a legitimate license to use it. All this package does for me is allow me to use it without Code Factory's DRM, which I normally wouldn't have a problem with except that it was a slow piece of crap.As far as I can tell, it depends on what it is that is being offered. If I were to offer a cracked or purchased version of a game, you can be pretty sure that my message w
 ould be immediately deleted and I'd be banned. But I've seen Eloquence pirated here a number of times with no consequences to the person doing it. . I've also seen a purchased version of Pure Basic pirated too, again there were no consequences for the pirater. So I guess that as long as it isn't an audio game from a member of these forums, no problem, pirate away!

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

To change the voice parameters, use standard eci tags. For example, to set the inflection to 100, type `vf100.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jaybird via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I'm glad to have this. Like many others here, I own a legitimate license from Code Factory, but don't like their DRM. I also wish there was a way to change parameters such as voice, pitch, etc. Are these stored anywhere at all?

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : animal metal via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

does it work with windows 10? when i instal it sapi-5 gives me an arror, innstet elequence goes to sapi-4. now i don't no how to uninstal it so i can get sapi 5 working lol

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : garrett via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@mastodontNo it's not. I can't tell you who exactly made this synth, but what I can tell you is that it was made a few years before code factory even thought of making sapi5 eloquence in the first place. I do like eloquence, but I am not afraid to publicly admit that I will not! Spend $75 on a synth, especially with the DRM bullshit that Nuance puts into it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : luiscarlosgm via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I want the spanish and all languages, I cannot wait to post this in the spanish comunity! Jake, add all languages and voices. Id shoud appear in sapi5 voices, not a single voice but all the voices in all languages!For example: in spanish (american language) id shoud appear as eloquence José, eloquence Marisol, ETC.abd all languages!

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : luiscarlosgm via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I want the spanish and all languages, I cannot wait to post this in the spanish comunity! Jake, add all languages and voices. Id shoud appear in sapi5 voices, not a single voice but all the voices in all languages!

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

just a small question. isn't this plane piracy? as far as I know eloquence is a paid software so basicaly this topic is against the forum rules. correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : dd via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

just for curiosity's sake, does this include any other languages apart from the english? not that I'd use any of them, but just curiousalthough if it does include the asian languages could use those for games or browsing or something

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@CartertemmI don't know if you are wrong or not, but with the advent of the registry, I'd have thought that the SAPI settings would be in there instead of an ini file.@JackYeah, I had to reduce the rate from the default 50 to 30.As time goes by, I find I can increase the speaking rate of my screen readers, but I'm not that far yet. You should hear my mental health counselor's JAWS, she has it set as fast as it can go! But then she's been blind for about twenty years now.Truth be told, Code Factory didn't really add that much, if anything to the settings you could adjust. Their interface was mostly about their DRM for it. Shows where their priorities are.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

@CartertemmI don't know if you are wrong or not, but with the advent of the registry, I'd have thought that the SAPI settings would be in there instead of an ini file.@JackYeah, I had to reduce the rate from the default 50 to 30.As time goes by, I find I can increase the speaking rate of my screen readers, but I'm not that far yet. You should hear my mental health counselor's JAWS, she has it set as fast as it can go! But then she's been blind for about twenty years now.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : datajake1999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I can post the c++ source code for the eloquence sapi5 interface if anyone is interested.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

There is no real way to change the pitch permanently. Remember, the person who coded this didn't code a utility, in fact not a trace of the software from Code Factory is present in this release, which tells us that whoever coded this coded the sapi implementation by hand. Also, the rate is fast by default, which I personally don't mind, but just keep that in mind, you may want to slow down your rate if you're not comfortable with that rate.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I haven't install this, so sorry if I'm wrong. But normally with these sort of things, there's a file called "eci.ini" that accompanies "eci.dll". You should be able to edit necessary options in this file, allowing you can find it.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

That is one of the things I don't like about SAPI, if all you have to set it up is Windows, the only controls you are given are, which synthesizer to use and the speaking rate.

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Re: free sapi5 eloquence

2016-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : burak via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: free sapi5 eloquence

I am not talking about temporary pitch change, I am talking about the perminent one.

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