Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @40, uh... because not all users read this thing called a changelog? I'm not 'making less sense'. I'm giving you facts, pure and simple. You cannot stop people from talking about a beta. A beta (in a general sense) is not confidential, either; perhaps Apples betas

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Awesome! I hope that stays that way in the final version. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467649/#p467649 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks I will rename the topic and edit post 1 so it is clear this talks about bugs from a betaAlso beta 2 of 13.2 got rid of the end call bug for meFuck yeah! Hope it is gone for anyone else on that version as well URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467647/#p467647

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks I will rename the topic and edit post 1 so it is clear this talks about bugs from a betaAlso i beta 2 of 13.2 got rid of the end call bug for meFuck yeah! Hope it is gone for anyone else on that version as well URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467647/#p467647

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Yeah right, Apple fanboy who used Android for over 4 years? Good try. I just collaborate with companies who's products I am trying to improve by beta testing. Google in a similar way asks you not to spred TalkBack beta outside of their mailing list, so how do

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @40, stop being such a Apple fanboy and smell the industrialism. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467604/#p467604 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Lol, stop being such an Apple hater and making less and less sense. How will people assume a bug is not there if it is indicated in the gold master? Beta releases are confidential information and I don't know what part of that is not understandable. Nobody tries

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks 38 nails it, I think. Instead of telling people not to talk about bugs before a GM release at all, because you have no authority to make them comply to that kind of thing (and policing the internet is impossible anyway, plus the fact that that's unenforceable, which

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks I have an iPhone 7 +, and the only bug i have with ios 13.1.2 is Voice over suddenly crashing. But other than that, I see no set of bugs. My friend Adel doesn't even want to update because of seeing your post. The main version doesn't have the bugs outlined. You need

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Who complained about it? I saw only one mention of that bug, and it was in this topic. The end call bug will hopefully be fixed soon, but see, even we can't reliably tell if it is or is not fixed, because for me it happens maybe once in 20 calls, while for others

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Actually I was frustrated about people complaining about it. It wasn’t a big deal to me.The end call bug is what sets me off URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467527/#p467527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Whether it is ridiculous or not, you agreed to it, and that's it. The fact it is ridiculous should be brought up to Apple, but till they agree, it is an official rule, and based on what it says your beta access could be revoked. Of course, as has already been said

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks It's quite simple: If people don't have the beta and just hear from bugs, they may come to the conclusion, be it false or true, that the bug will be in the final version and therefore it's not worth it. Not all people know exactly when there's a beta and when there's

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks I don't understand why talking about beta bugs is bad.If the gm is not out yet, then obviously common sense means that someone is talking about the developer or public beta, because if they check for updates, surprise, they are running the latest. So no confusion

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks And just as I suspected, the status bar bug is gone in beta 2, which is why you don't talk about beta bugs before golden master. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467424/#p467424 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks iOS 13.2 beta 2 is out.Let’s hope for the best. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467419/#p467419 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Yeah, I agree with the last post, there was probably some hyperbole there to heighten the effect of what the previous poster said. In any case, I haven't really experienced any significant bugs since upgrading to IOS 13, not even the call ending bug, which I'm very

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Well, the other part I understood as his personal comment, because no company says that and I am 100 percent sure they didn't do that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467251/#p467251 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @27, you clearly didn't read the full quotation (if it is accurately reproduced). If so, then not only is that entirely unprofessional, its also incredibly disrespectful and significantly lowers my respect for Apple. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467245

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Well what else do you expect them to tell you other than they are working on it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467226/#p467226 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks My friend actually called Apple about the problems, but they just blew him off with, "Yeah we're workin on it kid just wait you'll get your stupid accessibility." This is horifying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467178/#p467178 -- Audiogames

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks It is more like counting to 10, but yep you can definitely get used to it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467079/#p467079 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Lol, that's all i'm adding after reading through the thread. 1. yes feedback helps, no matter the scale no matter the quantity, even for a psychological standpoint "at least I've tryed all I could to get the bugs across" ... As for the end call bug, yeah, th

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks It isn't just iOS 13, it is every single Apple product, except maybe their voices, and they weren't created by Apple, and even the software behind them sucks since many of them don't exist for Windows. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467063/#p467063

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks nidza07 wrote:Wow, have not read anything more ridiculous in a long time. Just for your info, if you are beta testing, you agree to not share any bugs from the beta except those published by Apple, so stop beta testing or well, continue being dishonest. Not to mention

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Lol you complain about a beta not beeing stable? That's what a beta is, if you install it it's your really own risc, and the treath title doesn't make it better either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467051/#p467051 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks You may want to, since they do list many bugs, especially the one about calls so you could have avoided ubgrading. I forgot to answer about home button and hard reset. If you don't have one, the mute switch will achieve the same thing. If you flip it when you phone

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @18 correct. Too lazy to read. I don’t care for apple vis so my attention was at 50% to 75%Edit I’m going to fail college if I don’t put 100% attention despite my opinion URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467049/#p467049 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @18 correct. Too lazy to read. I don’t care for apple vis so my attention was at 50% to 75% URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467049/#p467049 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Yeah, well, you must be lazy to read too, since Applevis gets 0 exceptions from Apple. They post bugs as soon as the golden master version is released, at which point anybody can do it. So, you can post bugs for 13.1 all you want, but not for 13.2. Whether Apple can

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks As far as my experience goes, Apple generally don’t read feedback. If they do read feedback, they just ignore it, because I haven’t seen a single one of my suggestions come to light. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/467022/#p467022 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @12 I am 4 days from being 19. However, I read the apple vis thread of iOS 13 beta bugs, and in their article they state that apple said it was ok for them to discuss bugs publicly since iOS 12 and they have had absolutely no problem with it, so... exceptions

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @12 I am 4 days from being 19. However, I read the apple vis thred of iOS 13 beta bugs, and in their article they state that apple said it was ok for them to discuss bugs publicly since iOS 12 and they have had absolutely no propblem with it, so... exceptions

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Hi,Besides the bug where you can't properly read the status bar on the home screen, and besides Voiceover not speaking the time when waking up the device, I haven't seen any of the bugs described in post 1. I don't know what's going on with your device mate.There

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks the only issue I am really seeing is the voice over thing when you make or end calls. Other than that I am not having any of the issues you described. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466986/#p466986 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Hi.Lol zarvox I would take your post serious if the second most word in your post wouldn't be fuck, shit or another profanity of the same calliber.Also, you're running a beta,gosh, bugs are bound to happen in betas and that's why these things are called betas

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks I have switched and I am now using android, but one thing that concerns me about IOS is the bug where it would call emergency services that is a legal, and technically to get you or them into very big trouble just my thoughts URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @7, if Zarvox is under 18 then the legal agreement was never binding in the first place and therefore he's free to violate it as much as he likes (because, after all, he never was bound to it in the first place). Plus, if he's right and there are youtube videos

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks i'm not going to deny that there are bugs present, perhaps more than usual, but i'm also going to say that apple usually has a good bug fixing history, and those bugs are usually fixed within a couple of updates. I think we should all just be patient. URL: https

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks If it is related to Siri voices, that does explain it since I don't use them with VO. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466944/#p466944 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @6 yep. I'm using samantha compact just to avoid it.@7 look on youtube, betas are constantly being discussed there. And trillions of videos of how to get beta without developer account. Apple protected beta 1, but they realized how much of a pain it was to protect, so

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @6 yep. I'm using samantha compact just to avoid it.@7 look on youtube, betas are constantly being discussed there. And trillions of videos of how to get beta without developer account. Apple protected beta 1, but they realized how much of a pain it was to protect, so

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks @6 yep. I'm using samantha compact just to avoid it.@7 look on youtube, betas are constantly being discussed there. And trillions of videos of how to get beta without developer account. Apple protected beta 1, but they realized how much of a pain it was to protect, so

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Wow, have not read anything more ridiculous in a long time. Just for your info, if you are beta testing, you agree to not share any bugs from the beta except those published by Apple, so stop beta testing or well, continue being dishonest. Not to mention you could

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Wow, have not read anything more ridiculous in a long time. Just for your info, if you are beta testing, you agree to not share any bugs from the beta except those published by Apple, so stop beta testing or well, continue being dishonest. I never had duplicate items

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks I had to read your post about 20×zarvox. That’s because my phone kept returning me to the top of the page. Can I just throw this phone out of a 50 story window URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466926/#p466926 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

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Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks I have no issues. I am using an iPhone 8 with Samantha compact version. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466921/#p466921 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks heh, I wont be updateing anytime soon, I have ios12.4good for m! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466906/#p466906 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks That reset is the one I use. Doesn’t work. I also forgot to mention a new bug. Buttons are unlabeled and progress bars don’t tell the progress. Either british siri female is completely broken or VO got fucked up hardI will try switiching voices but I know that won’t

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks

Re: iOS 13.1/2 sucks Zarvox wrote:Let's begin.iOS sucks ass. 13.0 was ok. There were a few bugs but nothing important.Well except for the VO roter. It mixed up and duplicated some of the roter items, so there were 3 labeld words, and 3 labeled links, 2 labeled text size, and it was a mess