Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a way to eek out a little more detail...

2008-06-14 Thread Rodney_Gold
Are you guys with the popcorn hosing yourself cos you think that folks are deluding themnselves over the fact that the Sb3 and transporters analog output isnt the best thing since sliced bread? -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2008-06-14 Thread Phil Leigh
Nonreality;311689 Wrote: Actually I wasn't talking about you in that post. I would hate for one program to make me have to convert all my mp3's to flac, it's simple but a hassle. But like you said it doesn't affect me. The replay gain problem is if you happen to have had Itunes do it's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2008-06-14 Thread Phil Leigh
sikahr;311601 Wrote: Unfortunatrelly, I don't have original rip (six months passed), but I have wav (normalised to -45db) decoded from mp3 on PC. Compare this wav to mp3: http://www.driveway.com/u2b8k4z9t6 Peace, Nenad That's a shame. Can you explain how you first noticed this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a way to eek out a little more detail...

2008-06-14 Thread harmonic
Ever since people read that the sb3 and transporter are Bit perfect, and that the transporter has the MIRACLE dac and a sound that will supass even the most excotic cd player a mob of slim fanatics was born. -- harmonic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2008-06-14 Thread sikahr
Phil Leigh;311802 Wrote: That's a shame. Can you explain how you first noticed this problem? Listen music, hear something's wrong, start testing. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2008-06-14 Thread Nonreality
Phil Leigh;311801 Wrote: Oooh that's nasty - especially if they both decided to boost!Exactly, but maybe one good thing about the loudness wars is you don't find that much anymore. The sad thing is that this bug was done on purpose. Plus the fact that peak clipping values aren't used. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a way to eek out a little more detail...

2008-06-14 Thread darrenyeats
harmonic;311804 Wrote: Ever since people read that the sb3 and transporter are Bit perfect, and that the transporter has the MIRACLE dac and a sound that will supass even the most excotic cd player a mob of slim fanatics was born. We all have subconscious prejudice about certain brands,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify

2008-06-14 Thread Phil Leigh
sikahr;311808 Wrote: Listen music, hear something's wrong, start testing. Peace, Nenad Yes...but what music - it must have been something very specific? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics

Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!

2008-06-14 Thread honestguv
How strange. This does appear to be a real Denon product and is listed on the Denon website. It seems baffling to me given the Denon brand image. I am not in marketing but I would expect a product like this to devalue the Denon brand far more than it will ever earn despite a presumably enormous

Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!

2008-06-14 Thread iPhone
honestguv;311882 Wrote: How strange. This does appear to be a real Denon product and is listed on the Denon website. Am I missing something? Yes, its called corporate GREED! -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] roll up! roll up! Get y our £350 network patch cable here!

2008-06-14 Thread Pat Farrell
honestguv wrote: It seems baffling to me given the Denon brand image. I am not in marketing but I would expect a product like this to devalue the Denon brand far more than it will ever earn despite a presumably enormous profit margin. And once the brand image has gone it will take years to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does the Transporter outperform SACD (2ch)?

2008-06-14 Thread jt25741
I think everything is converted to basically single bit DSDish quasi Delta-Sigma format by the AKM and just about any other non-R2R ladder based DAC on the market these days. This seems to be the modern approach. D/A conversion of such 1 bit non PCM streams has some linearity advantages over

Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!

2008-06-14 Thread GuyDebord
killie99;311528 Wrote: I truly believe I have now seen everything. This has to be the snake oil of all snake oils .. http://www.avland.co.uk/denon/akdl1/akdl1.htm I still think no snake oil is purer than the sleek offers of geoff kate's: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ this ethernet

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-06-14 Thread alexdemaet
Please note, this is my first time on this forum. Sorry but I haven't figured out yet what sb3 means. Is it an amplifier, Creative sound card? I would be very interested to upgrade my pc to a very decent music server. I have upgraded everything, except my source. If anyone could give me some

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?

2008-06-14 Thread GuyDebord
alexdemaet;312002 Wrote: Please note, this is my first time on this forum. Sorry but I haven't figured out yet what sb3 means. Is it an amplifier, Creative sound card? I would be very interested to upgrade my pc to a very decent music server. I have upgraded everything, except my

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread ratso
you guys have never let me down before so i will ask you. i am having a set of blue jeans cables xlr to rca cables made to go from my transporter to my preamp. blue jeans was asking what pinout i need? thanx, ratso -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ground Loop and Transporter

2008-06-14 Thread ratso
i have never had my transporter 'play nice' with ANY preamp i have used. i always get a hum when i add in a pre. it disappears when i go straight into my amps. -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread Eric Seaberg
Why not just use the RCA outputs that already exist? -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread ratso
oops left that out of original thread. i have a ground loop hum -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10 power conditioner - Cables by Me!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread SuperQ
The XLR output on the transporter is the common industry standard. Unless there is something funky about the balanced input on your pre-amp you shouldn't need anything special. Edit: Oh, wait, the BC-21 you list in your sig doesn't have balanced. You won't get anything fixed by using the XLR

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread ratso
sadly most preamps including mine aren't balanced. -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10 power conditioner - Cables by Me!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread Pat Farrell
ratso wrote: you guys have never let me down before so i will ask you. i am having a set of blue jeans cables xlr to rca cables made to go from my transporter to my preamp. blue jeans was asking what pinout i need? I just checked the usual documentation and don't see the answer to the only

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread Pat Farrell
ratso wrote: oops left that out of original thread. i have a ground loop hum Using an XLR to RCA cable is not going to address that at all. Balanced all the way may, but RCA is unbalenced, and can lead to ground loops. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/

Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!

2008-06-14 Thread Nonreality
GuyDebord;311958 Wrote: I still think no snake oil is purer than the sleek offers of geoff kate's: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ this ethernet cable is space cake compared to what this guy sells, and he apparently sells a lot!! Im surprised no one has put him inside bars!! Nice find. He

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?

2008-06-14 Thread ratso
lots of people have cured ground loops with single ended xlr (and many haven't either!). according to jensen transformers it may have to do with the construction of the cable and they say a properly constructed cable can have a pretty dramatic effect on hum (see fig. 2.1)