if you want DSD, just get the mytek DAC and software of choice.
job done.
IMO, the SBT is still the king of them all. nothing else offers the
same flexibility, format handling, apps, radio, and convenience coupled
with fantastic SQ.
these other streamers are terrible wastes of money.
if you want the best SQ...
treat your room. absolutely NOTHING else comes close in terms of
results, improvements.
far too many audiophiles ignore this MOST CRUCIAL factor, and spend
money on stupid things.
Mind elaborating? Because there is no difference, littlebut too little
difference, difference for the worse, less features, too expensive
somehow, or???
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Bit if you're only aften better, rather than best/optimal, sound quality
(which most in reality are no matter what they claim), and you assign a
certain room design/layout a monetary value (which many do) it can make
sense to improve by spending on the gear side of things ;)
bhaagensen wrote:
Mind elaborating? Because there is no difference, littlebut too little
difference, difference for the worse, less features, too expensive
somehow, or???
Two simple reasons:
1) All digital audio streamers (aka music streamers) do is feed a
digital audio data stream to a
Lots of people have gear in the 10k-class - especially if bought
pre-loved.
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bhaagensen wrote:
Lots of people have gear in the 10k-class - especially if bought
pre-loved.
I have plenty of expensive audio equipment, much of it bought
pre-loved but no single piece of equipment in the 10K+ class. Please
note that I did state that Sooloos system may be better than or
I have a complete Meridian home theater 10k$, but I would never spend
that money on the digital front end as it makes no sense .
The high end brands also have streamers ,but as a pure digital front end
they makes no difference and the LMS server combined with iPeng is the
best interface I know of
The problem I intended to adress was that of mixing cost (value for
money) with the question of wether front ends can sound relatively
better/worse/different. Also there is some confusion as to wether a
front end includes a dac-stage or not - said Linn and Naim have no
digital only transports
ralphpnj wrote:
That said perhaps the Sooloos system is equal to or even superior to the
SB Touch/LMS system but at $10,000 I will never find out. In any event
the Sooloos system is far less flexible on the computer hardware side.
Ralph,
Curious what's so special about the Sooloos stuff
Mnyb wrote:
I have a complete Meridian home theater 10k$, but I would never spend
that money on the digital front end as it makes no sense .
The high end brands also have streamers ,but as a pure digital front end
they makes no difference and the LMS server combined with iPeng is the
best
Archimago wrote:
Ralph,
Curious what's so special about the Sooloos stuff anyways? The Media
Core 600 looks like a nice server and it looks like some good looking
hardware... Touch screen interface/monitor seems cool but iPengHD or
SqueezePad is just fine (they've got an app as well
ralphpnj wrote:
My system consists of a Squeezebox Transporter with the balanced analog
outputs feeding my SimAudio preamp and power amp and Vandersteen
speakers.
Gotta get a hi-end DAC involved. You will forget about the Transporter
analog outs in a heartbeat. If you live anywhere within
Anyway as far as choosing Naim as an example of what Im not sure,
but it seems ill-chosen. In fact I think they have gone to lenghts in
keeping up with times. Their Uniqute integrated amplifier features
streaming, FM, DAB, USB input, iDevice digital connecticity, analouge
and digital inputs,
ralphpnj wrote:
All in all, I'd say that the Squeezebox based streaming digital music
playback system is on par with any other streaming digital music
playback system currently available, regardless of price.
Arguably The best up to the point of derivering the digital stream.
Ok linn do multi room to ,how is the user interface ? But it would be
pricey just like doing multi room with sooloos ?
I can see a sooloos system at my local hifi dealer ( he constantly tries
to sell it to me ) and a naim unit but the naim unit he showed had very
poor UI it was like an old mp3
TheOctavist wrote:
if you want the best SQ...
treat your room. absolutely NOTHING else comes close in terms of
results, improvements.
far too many audiophiles ignore this MOST CRUCIAL factor, and spend
money on stupid things.
This is good advice. But digital room correction in the
ralphpnj wrote:
Thanks for the link - a very interesting and eye opening read. The link
to the Meridian Sooloos site
(http://www.meridian-audio.com/sooloos/index.php) features a very nice
video of how the Sooloos system works, complete with a British accented
voice over. For those of you
Archimago wrote:
Nice system!
Speaking of plugins and front ends like MUSO, do anyone know if there is
a plug-in / front end that will scan the directory of albums and look
for scanned covers/booklets/etc.? For example, some HDTracks downloads
have PDF books, and over the years I have
bhaagensen wrote:
My experience is that transports make a difference - regardless of
definition - but I do not have enough experience to in terms of cost,
classify sound quality - if such classes exists at all? I do know that I
have heard some rather expensive stuff sounding better than
So I found the time to swap the components around, and zeroed the fault
to the Cyrus DAC-X :( . It's a far more expensive proposition than a
faulty SB Touch. Oh well! The problem has gotten much worse in the past
few days - no longer restricted to 48 kHz material, but all across the
board from
I have no exact idea on a perfect replacement .
We can build short list .
Audiolab MDAC, Benchmark ,Lavry , arcam rdac .
Add on people .
Two trends to be vary off.
There always seems to be new ( Chinese ) DAC brand every week ,often
Internet only , promises a lot.
Flawed designs NOS DAC's and
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