Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: That's a thing about science the results are true even if you don’t like them or believe in them . extremely annoying when your job is to push/peddle opinions or if your are elected just because your disconect with reality suits a large voting population ? I don't want

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread ralphpnj
One thing that has been touched upon but not delved into is the fact that many of the high resolution downloads available on both HDTracks and Pono are labeled as remastered when in actual fact they are not really remastered but just repackaged versions of previously available high resolution

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Julf
ralphpnj wrote: One thing that has been touched upon but not delved into is the fact that many of the high resolution downloads available on both HDTracks and Pono are labeled as remastered when in actual fact they are not really remastered but just repackaged versions of previously

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Wombat
Squeezemenicely wrote: Also maybe the placebo effect, still sometimes I prefer the 24/96files. The difference is slight, but somehow it seems there is more audible space in the higher frequencies - no idea how to put it - probably sounds silly anyway. I find it is best heard on a solo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: Except when they are just conversions from 44.1/16 Oops I forgot about those gems. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread pablolie
RonM wrote: I see there are two releases available on Amazon, 2008 and 1998, both purporting to be remasterings. Do you have a recommendation? I also see that HD Tracks has a 48/24 version for sale, I wonder if that suffers from the same faults as your 192/24?. r. i got the 24/192 on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Archimago
Julf wrote: Good luck with that - they seem to belong to the science is only good when it supports our views club... Excellent! What Sibelius piece, and who is conducting? Vancouver Symphony tonight is 'Bramwell Tovey' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bramwell_Tovey) conducting the -Valse

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Archimago
Squeezemenicely wrote: Archimago as usual your views and research are a very interesting read. Being a listener with relatively good hearing, I have often asked myself if there really is a difference between a CD flac and 24/96. Often it is the better remaster that makes the big

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Archimago
pablolie wrote: i got the 24/192 on hdtracks indeed. the other one must be the '98 version. funny we're talking bill evans. i am just playing best of bill evans, and i love it, and i just checked and it's a [gasp] 192k MP3 from my dark early iTunes days :-D to me that shows it's primarily

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Archimago
pablolie wrote: if he lives long enough and sticks true to his record of living off his legacy and not writing any new music, but rather pimping HR msuic stuff, i am sure in 3 years he'll tell us pono sounds like sh*t and his new 48bit 284kHz XHD biz is finally the truth in all things music

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Mnyb
I think my audiophile card got revoked when I put my high end cable collection in the recycling dumpster including a set of audio quest caldera speaker wires Anyhow I do sometimes buy the HiRez version of something if it's aviable , but I rarely go above 24/96 that's good enough .

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Mnyb
Archimago wrote: Ouch. Couldn't you resell some of that stuff and get a few bucks back? That's what a friend did... Got rid of all his expensive wires, stayed with some Mogami's. Tells me he has been happy to be free of the cable obsession since. No I thought it immoral to do soo I did not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Archimago
Mnyb wrote: No I thought it immoral to do soo I did not want peddle snake oil myself , this stuff actually sits very well in the dumpster :D Wow. A man of principle! Impressive! Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread pablolie
Archimago wrote: Didn't ya hear, N.Y. said 'MP3 sounds like sh*t' (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/03/11/pono). as far as i am concerned, he always did. whether as vinyl or early itunes or 48/384 (which i am sure must sound decidedly better than 24/192) :-D ...pablo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Archimago
Mnyb wrote: I think my audiophile card got revoked when I put my high end cable collection in the recycling dumpster including a set of audio quest caldera speaker wires Anyhow I do sometimes buy the HiRez version of something if it's aviable , but I rarely go above 24/96 that's good

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: Plus there's *no way* I can honestly let Michael Fremer and Lavorgna drag up the ghost of the Oohashi paper after a decade and a half or just declare the Meyer-Moran stuff debunked like this as if they know what they're talking about! Good luck with that - they seem to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: Good luck with that - they seem to belong to the science is only good when it supports our views club... I believe that every member of the US Congress and Senate is a charter member of the science is only good when it supports our views club. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: I believe that every member of the US Congress and Senate is a charter member of the science is only good when it supports our views club. That's a thing about science the results are true even if you don’t like them or believe in them . extremely annoying when your job is to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Squeezemenicely
Archimago as usual your views and research are a very interesting read. Being a listener with relatively good hearing, I have often asked myself if there really is a difference between a CD flac and 24/96. Often it is the better remaster that makes the big difference. Also maybe the placebo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MUSINGS: What Is The Value of High Resolution Audio?

2015-01-31 Thread Mnyb
There is also a factor with badly desiged equipment, a DAC or AV amp could actually sound different with diffrent source formats , how is it with DSD for example . High end or not , bad design can pop up anywhere . But high end is actually a more likely place more cultish design done by ear