jh901 wrote:
As of now, I disagree with the few of you who claim that there are no EE
principles which explain audible differences.
I think we all are eagerly waiting for you to explain what EE principles
explain audible differences.
I also disagree, at this time, that I'm a victim of
arnyk wrote:
Other than for a very few pathological speakers, 12 guage zip cord in
reasonable lengths gives ideal, non-improvable performence.
I do not believe that my speakers are among the pathological, so I'm
going to enjoy second guessing myself.
arnyk wrote:
If you can't
Archimago wrote:
Bell wire? What is that 20AWG or thinner? I did say a decent length of
copper did I not as speaker cables?
As for golden ears, you, like some others seem to claim/insist you have
them (based on what you claim to hear on your blog with OS
optimizations)... Is this
Julf wrote:
I think we all are eagerly waiting for you to explain what EE principles
explain audible differences.
Would it matter? If I cite various links, then you know what will
happen. We could hold a conference call with a bunch of Phds who
actually design cables and there would
jh901 wrote:
Would it matter? If I cite various links, then you know what will
happen. We could hold a conference call with a bunch of Phds who
actually design cables and there would nothing said which a few of you
wouldn't declare marketing or otherwise BS.
Some of us have Phds in stuff
SBGK wrote:
In the early days I tried bell wire, 1.5 mm and 2.5 mm 2 core and earth
cable as speaker cable, they all sounded different. Guess I must have
golden ears.
Bell wire has enough series resistance to actually make some speakers
sound different.
The listning evaluations were
Archimago wrote:
Good luck with the zip cords...
Bottom line is that physics predicts that the demands of accurate
transmission of audio from 20Hz-20kHz in -speaker cables- is a rather
low standard that can be fulfilled more than easily by a decent length
of copper!
THE CLAIM OF
jh901 wrote:
I'm certainly not of the view that known science must be violated in
order for it to be true that there are audible differences between
speakers connected to a power amp with 12g OFC zip cord versus specialty
cable.
The way you make this statement it sounds as if you think you
I'm certainly not of the view that known science must be violated in
order for it to be true that there are audible differences between
speakers connected to a power amp with 12g OFC zip cord versus specialty
cable. I don't know how skin effect comes into play, for example. I'm
not one to
SBGK wrote:
just relating my experience, think that's allowed on this forum.
Of course. However it's important to remember that objective testing
will show inadequacy of poor quality wires with high resistance. No
magic there.
While I can appreciate your hearing acuity to tell the difference
jh901 wrote:
Would it matter? If I cite various links, then you know what will
happen. We could hold a conference call with a bunch of Phds who
actually design cables and there would nothing said which a few of you
wouldn't declare marketing or otherwise BS.
The hardcore self-proclaimed
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jh901 wrote:
I also disagree, at this time, that I'm a victim of psychological
effect.
But earlier on you admitted that you are human. To deny that you are
susceptible to your perceptions being influenced by outside factors, you
are declaring yourself to be some kind of freak. Victim is
arnyk wrote:
Yes.
One little problem. There is no such thing as ...a bunch of PhDs (in
electrical engineering) that actually design cables.
Getting a PhD in EE or a related area has a prerequisite - learning
enough about EE to understand why audiophile cables are a myth.
Prove me
jh901 wrote:
Would it matter?
Yes.
If I cite various links, then you know what will happen. We could hold
a conference call with a bunch of Phds who actually design cables and
there would nothing said which a few of you wouldn't declare marketing
or otherwise BS.
One little
jh901 wrote:
As of now, I disagree with the few of you who claim that there are no EE
principles which explain audible differences. I also disagree, at this
time, that I'm a victim of psychological effect.
What is the rational basis of your disagreement?
cliveb wrote:
That said, you are in luck. The known laws of nature do indeed allow for
there to be an audible difference between different speaker cables. Bear
in mind, however, that the known science that explains this audible
difference isn't part of physics. It's part of psychology.
jh901 wrote:
I'm certainly not of the view that known science must be violated in
order for it to be true that there are audible differences between
speakers connected to a power amp with 12g OFC zip cord versus specialty
cable.
Other than for a very few pathological speakers, 12 guage
jh901 wrote:
Pseudoscience is dangerous, but declaring science as if you are GOD is
also wrong.
The difference is that science not only provides the evidence, and
allows it to be questioned, but actually provides the tools to do it
(and encourages it).
We go back to Theory of Knowledge 101:
jh901 wrote:
I intend to avoid your pitfalls, so it doesn't make sense that you have
such passion for your faith.
There are no such pitfalls, and there is no such faith.
I'm following Conventional Science (the Science that helped us send men
into space and survive and even thrive).
The
Julf wrote:
Anyway, you claimed , I am simply asking for an explanation based in EE
principles to explain audible differences. You seem to think that the
difference between actual scientific evidence and marketing material is
a question of opinion/viewpoint. What would be *your* criteria
Archimago wrote:
Hey Gandhi,
I used REW and parametric EQ until earlier this year. I used to just
apply 20-150Hz or so; leaving the rest of the mids and trebles since it
was relatively accurate already.
Last few months, I've been use DRCDesigner to do the measurements,
target curve
Gandhi wrote:
Hello Archi!
I have never tried DRCDesigner and only just now checked the how-to on
their website. But I'm not sure I understand the benefit of using
DRCDesigner instead of for instance REW (which is incredibly
comprehensive). Does it make better measurements or calculations?
Archimago wrote:
Good luck with the zip cords...
THE CLAIM OF AUDIBLE DIFFERENCE (IE. THAT SOMEHOW SOMETHING IS BEING
CHANGED IN THAT TRANSMISSION FROM 20HZ-20KHZ) BECAUSE OF EXOTIC
MATERIALS/DIELECTRICS, ETC. THAT IS SOMEHOW \BETTER\ OR MORE \TRUE\
TO THE SIGNAL IS AKIN TO DECLARING
Michanders are first class! I sent my cables out Monday and Analysis
Plus called today to confirm that they'll be shipping them back so that
I might get them before the holiday. Great service.
Meantime, I've added -Monk's Dream- and -Tijuana Moods- (Mingus) to my
jazz collection. ORG has
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