Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-22 Thread Georgie
ceejay, mswlogo, Thank you for your answers. I assume that the reason of the different sound is caused by different parameters, but I don't know which parameter and which value. I'll tried to have the same configurations, but there are a lot of parameters, from disk access to CPU cache and so on,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-22 Thread jeffmeh
Georgie;203712 Wrote: ceejay, mswlogo, Thank you for your answers. I assume that the reason of the different sound is caused by different parameters, but I don't know which parameter and which value. I'll tried to have the same configurations, but there are a lot of parameters, from disk

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-19 Thread Georgie
Thank you all very much for all ideas and feedbacks. To clarify: I'm absolutely happy with my squeezebox and my audio systems and yes, I enjoy listening to the music (with case c) ) and not to the differences of sound. The topic of this thread is for me to discuss some effects for which I did not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-19 Thread Pale Blue Ego
I think you'll be able to narrow it down to the SATA vs. IDE interface. You could also try mounting the drive(s) in an external USB case. Do a bunch of listening tests, re-mounting the drive between each test track. Then choose the best-sounding interface. Or, just go with firewire. I've

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-19 Thread mswlogo
Georgie;203095 Wrote: Thank you all very much for all ideas and feedbacks. To clarify: I'm absolutely happy with my squeezebox and my audio systems and yes, I enjoy listening to the music (with case c) ) and not to the differences of sound. The topic of this thread is for me to discuss some

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread Georgie
I'm playing with buying a transporter and have read all the threads comparing it with a modded sqeezebox. By chance I changed my server hard- and software and was astonished that different server sources sound so different. Has anybody made the same experiences, and does anybody know why and what

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread tomjtx
Try picking the combo you think sounds best and compare it to the worst in a blind test. Do you still hear a difference ? If so, keep your reference and keep eliminating (blind), one by one, the other setups. As long as your not spending money and your having fun no harm is done :-) --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread ceejay
IMHO the most likely explanation for any difference between different server installations would be if some configuration difference had accidentally crept in while installing - perhaps different volume or preamp settings, or file format transcodiing options. If all of those variables have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread opaqueice
You claim that an (X) audible ( ) measurable ( ) hypothetical improvement in sound quality can be attained by: ( ) upsampling ( ) non-oversampling ( ) increasing word size ( ) vibration dampening ( ) bi-wiring ( ) replacing the external power supply (X) using a different lossless format ( )

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread cliveb
Is the server in the listening room? If it is, then perhaps the different operating systems cause different amounts of acoustic noise to emanate from the servers - eg. varying CPU fan speeds, different hard disk access behaviour leading to different levels of noise from the heads, etc. This

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting ceejay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): IMHO the most likely explanation for any difference between different server installations would be if some configuration difference had accidentally crept in while installing - perhaps different volume or preamp settings, or file format transcodiing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread 325xi
Try to replace your internal SATA cables with the silver ones made by Cargas. It will lower internal jitter, which is certainly the reason for the differences you hear. !gniddik tsuJ -- 325xi 325xi's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread AndyC_772
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread dem
opaqueice;202922 Wrote: You claim that an (X) audible ( ) measurable ( ) hypothetical I think this is my favorite post of all time in this forum. -- dem Dave dem's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread mswlogo
Georgie;202859 Wrote: At start, I loaded always the client sw in the squeezebox and played the Densen Demagnetizer Track to ensure the same base for comparing. Georg This says it all right above. It's unbelievable the snake oil people fall for. You'll never be satisfied, relax and enjoy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread amcluesent
I would be happy to get your oppinions to this topic I wouldn't overlook the effect of changing the wi-fi channel used by your router when connecting the Transporter. I found that the even-numbered 802.11g channels narrowed the sound-stage quite considerably. After careful listening, even my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread tomjtx
amcluesent;202991 Wrote: I would be happy to get your oppinions to this topic I wouldn't overlook the effect of changing the wi-fi channel used by your router when connecting the Transporter. I found that the even-numbered 802.11g channels narrowed the sound-stage quite considerably.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread ErikM
Why is there an audiophile forum?? Since almost anytime anyone who posts a question that has to do with sound quality is flamed. I get the feeling that if this was a automotive forum those that can't afford the Porsche would also try to belittle those that can afford one.. Sad -- ErikM

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread tomjtx
ErikM;203028 Wrote: Why is there an audiophile forum?? Since almost anytime anyone who posts a question that has to do with sound quality is flamed. I get the feeling that if this was a automotive forum those that can't afford the Porsche would also try to belittle those that can afford

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread snarlydwarf
tomjtx;203032 Wrote: I WAS sleeping with the salesgirl...hm...was she USING me? Now there is a business model. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different

2007-05-18 Thread egd
Georgie;202859 Wrote: I'm playing with buying a transporter and have read all the threads comparing it with a modded sqeezebox. By chance I changed my server hard- and software and was astonished that different server sources sound so different. I think you'd benefit from a lifetime