Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2021-02-21 Thread philippe_44
brewie wrote: > emalvick > I think some of the mch 5.1 music is a lot better than stereo. > Currently I have converted most of my mch SACD's to mch FLAC's (24/96) > and they are sitting on a Synology NAS. > LMS/picore is running on a Raspberry Pi 4B with touchscreen and Harmony > remote

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2021-02-13 Thread brewie
emalvick I think some of the mch 5.1 music is a lot better than stereo. Currently I have converted most of my mch SACD's to mch FLAC's (24/96) and they are sitting on a Synology NAS. LMS/picore is running on a Raspberry Pi 4B with touchscreen and Harmony remote control. I Use TIDAL HIFI,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2020-04-10 Thread Paul Webster
mftech wrote: > It will be nice if LMS and Squeezelite could support the Ravenna > Protocol. HR + Multichannel at once ! > https://www.ravenna-network.com/ More background at the old thread on this went quiet after your post in 2019

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2020-04-10 Thread mftech
It will be nice if LMS and Squeezelite could support the Ravenna Protocol. HR + Multichannel at once ! https://www.ravenna-network.com/ Tête à FLAC 2 X SB Classic 2 X SB2 1 X SB Boom 1 X SB Touch 1 X Transporter 2 X Duet + Remote 3 X Rpi+Picoreplayer 2 X Chromecast 1 X Chromecast Audio 1 X

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2020-04-06 Thread emalvick
Hmm... With a lot of time at home, I was revisiting my surround library and even looking to see if anything new was available to make this work. It seems like it would be nice for LMS to support multichannel FLAC for devices that might have an HDMI connection for instance. Historically, I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2020-03-08 Thread brewie
maybe it took marcb 5 yrs to reply but he is right. I am also using mch 5.1 dsf tracks from my synology and would also love to use them via LMS. Not found a way yet brewie's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2020-03-04 Thread slartibartfast
marcb wrote: > No offense but you’re proving the old adage that a little knowledge can > be dangerous. 99.9% of true stereo mixes (and even a great many mono > mixes) are also not native and are exactly as you describe for > multichannel mixes. They originate from multi-track recordings

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2020-03-04 Thread marcb
ralphpnj wrote: > Yep you basically proved my assertion that there are very few recordings > native surround sound recordings other than live concert recordings. > Taking a multi-track stereo recording and remixing it for surround sound > is not the same thing as a native surround sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-02-26 Thread ralphpnj
marcb wrote: Maybe no one is mentioning it because it is simply incorrect. There are hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of music SACDs, DVD-As, music video blu-rays DVDs, etc that have discrete 5 channel, 4 channel 3 channel mixes from multitrack recordings (stereo recordings per se

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-02-25 Thread marcb
ralphpnj wrote: Funny no one has mentioned the 5000 pound elephant in the room, namely since there are so few (what a couple of hundred at best) native surround sound recordings (sure there are lots of surround sound concert recordings but these always leave me confused since the sound field

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Archimago
Julf wrote: Me too! Still no street date for that Amused To Death Analogue Productions 5.1 SACD it appears... Tempted to pre-order but given how long it seems to be dragging out (I thought it was supposed to come out September 2014), I really hope it will see the light of day soon!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Mnyb
Imo even ambiance helps if done rigth with 5 speaker the stereo image can get wider deeper and higher than with 2 speakers . And in my case the midrange gets much better for song due the favorable position ( acoustic you know ) of my center speaker . Another interesting factor that also can be a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Mnyb
Archimago wrote: True, speaker position is an issue... However, I wonder if in the multichannel world, there might actually be a little more standardization. For example the 'ITU-R BS.775-3' (http://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/bs/R-REC-BS.775-3-201208-I!!PDF-E.pdf) specifies

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Archimago
Mnyb wrote: Imo even ambiance helps if done rigth with 5 speaker the stereo image can get wider deeper and higher than with 2 speakers . And in my case the midrange gets much better for song due the favorable position ( acoustic you know ) of my center speaker . Another interesting factor

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Archimago
ralphpnj wrote: ... As for favorite multichannel albums I've heard one that actually uses the extra channels with any degree of artfullness: Björk's Medulla (on SACD). On Medulla any and all of the front, center or rear channels can be used as the primary point of origin for the music.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Archimago
pablolie wrote: Getting multichannel done right can be a bit of a challenge of course and for practical reasons, will not be for everyone including soundroom setup, WAF, increased cost, etc... I just wish it was easier without all these bits and pieces I've had to cobble together! well

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: Still no street date for that Amused To Death Analogue Productions 5.1 SACD it appears... Tempted to pre-order but given how long it seems to be dragging out (I thought it was supposed to come out September 2014), I really hope it will see the light of day soon! And it is a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread ralphpnj
Funny no one has mentioned the 5000 pound elephant in the room, namely since there are so few (what a couple of hundred at best) native surround sound recordings (sure there are lots of surround sound concert recordings but these always leave me confused since the sound field remains fixed but

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-27 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: Which reminds me of the 3.0 albums like the Analogue Productions' Nat King Cole SACDs and Living Stereo classical SACDs... Great sounding replicas of the way these were recorded on 3-track tapes before stereo mixdowns. The Nat King Cole vocals in the center channel sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread ralphpnj
atrocity wrote: I'm not sure why people feel the need to answer this question with I don't like it though I suppose I'm just as guilty for whining about that. I believe that in my previous post (#10 above) I outlined why I don't think that multi-channel audio (and to a lesser extent, video)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread ralphpnj
atrocity wrote: And that's fine, you don't have to like multichannel music (or anything else, for that matter). But when someone asks How can I..? it seems pointless to respond with a version of Who cares? To me, it's no different from responding to I have one Beethoven FLAC that won't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread atrocity
I've got a dedicated computer in the living room that I turn on when I want to play multichannel DVD-A rips. Since I'm running Windows, I also have to keep the monitor on. Definitely not optimal, but I have yet to hear of any other way to do it that works as reliably. As for encapsulating DTS

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread atrocity
ralphpnj wrote: I believe that in my previous post (#10 above) I outlined why I don't think that multi-channel audio (and to a lesser extent, video) is at the present time basically useless. And that's fine, you don't have to like multichannel music (or anything else, for that matter). But

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread atrocity
ralphpnj wrote: Look I'm not trying to start some kind of flame war but I really, really think that you should actually read my entire post before you reply. It was not and is not my intent to single you out. I'm simply expressing consternation that a relatively straightforward question

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread get.amped
Archimago wrote: Hi guys, wondering how you all are running multichannel rigs and what format you're enjoying? Like others have expressed, I also wish there were some way to integrate multichannel into the Squeezebox system. Awhile back I remember that if I tried to play a 5.1 song

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread ralphpnj
atrocity wrote: It was not and is not my intent to single you out. I'm simply expressing consternation that a relatively straightforward question already has no fewer than four variations on What you want is pointless. If I appear to be picking on you, I apologize. The subject is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread pablolie
i think it is quite natural that in a forum like this a subtopic develops out of a topic like this. it'd be extremely quiet if that wasn't the usual modus operandi. :-) one thing i am pretty sure about: there was never any intent of flaming. it's been a long time since i have seen on of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread pablolie
Getting multichannel done right can be a bit of a challenge of course and for practical reasons, will not be for everyone including soundroom setup, WAF, increased cost, etc... I just wish it was easier without all these bits and pieces I've had to cobble together! well getting stereo right is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread Julf
Archimago wrote: I'm looking forward to another Roger Waters favourite - Amused To Death coming out in discreet multichannel Me too! To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-26 Thread Archimago
get.amped wrote: My multi-channel system is (almost) completely separate from my SB-based two channel stereo. Which means there are a lot of speakers in my living room. And since there's no W, WAF is not a factor. I rip DVD, BR and DVD-A discs to ISO images and store them on the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-25 Thread Pascal Hibon
I'm not interested in multichannel music. I don't care about multichannel for movies either. The hassle of the increased number of cables and speakers just doesn't justify it for me. I prefer a decent stereo system, even for movies. I find a good quality recording way more important than

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-25 Thread Mnyb
I do have a lot of DVDA in 5.1 it does really sound good , some mixes are gimicky but there are good ones like the discs AIX put out a decade ago . As i have a Meridian system i have well functioning surround modes even for 2ch music I often use these they enhance the experience in some

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-25 Thread ralphy
I use linux and the process described on the 'wiki' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Play_DVD_Tracks) which uses spdifconvert.py to encapsulate ac3 or dts into flac. There's a link to download the script on the wiki. To avoid a blast of static on a stereo only setup, make sure you tag

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-25 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: Hi guys, wondering how you all are running multichannel rigs and what format you're enjoying? .. Are you folks doing multichannel streaming/playback like this? Still playing SACD/DVD-A/Blu-Ray directly? Any favourite albums on multichannel? To answer your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-25 Thread Mnyb
ralphy wrote: I use linux and the process described on the 'wiki' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Play_DVD_Tracks) which uses spdifconvert.py to encapsulate ac3 or dts into flac. There's a link to download the script on the wiki. To avoid a blast of static on a stereo only setup,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-25 Thread pablolie
Pascal Hibon wrote: I'm not interested in multichannel music. I don't care about multichannel for movies either. The hassle of the increased number of cables and speakers just doesn't justify it for me. I prefer a decent stereo system, even for movies. I find a good quality recording way

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-24 Thread Archimago
Yeah, just to clarify. No Squeezebox in the multichannel pathway for me either. The only place the signal intersects with the stereo gear is thru the preamp in home theater pass through mode to play the front channels. Sounds good. If anyone hasn't done so, check out some of the upsampled DTS

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-24 Thread Audiotic
Hmm, I do not use the Squeezebox for multi-channel at all. I use the SACD and DVD / BluRay - way for this. I have a lot of DSD files that in principle are multi channel files but have the 2 channel in them. This is played through Audirvana and a USB connection. As stereo. My DAC can only

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-24 Thread Mnyb
The only way to get multichannel is ac3 or dts files compressed as flac or wav . Thats what toslink or spdiff supports But with so many third party players aviable with hdmi capable hardware , Maybe its time to support 5.1 flac files ?

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-24 Thread Archimago
Hi guys, wondering how you all are running multichannel rigs and what format you're enjoying? Like others have expressed, I also wish there were some way to integrate multichannel into the Squeezebox system. Awhile back I remember that if I tried to play a 5.1 song through SqueezeServer/LMS, it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel Playback - ideas and music?

2015-01-24 Thread darrenyeats
I am not a fan of multichannel. Ok for movies. Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: