Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-29 Thread cymbop
Jacky, Toolbox 2.0 can be downloaded in section 3.3 of Soundcheck's installation instructions for 3.0. -- cymbop cymbop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50761 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-29 Thread cymbop
Does anyone recall the 2.0 command to turn the screen on after it's been killed? A summary of the commands I know is below: -unpack tar file: tar xvf touchtoolbox2.0.tar -Initialize the Toolbox: ttinit -status tool: ttstat -buffer setting: ttbuffer -output tuning: 1. for activating

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-29 Thread guidof
cymbop;673439 Wrote: Does anyone recall the 2.0 command to turn the screen on after it's been killed? A summary of the commands I know is below: Just do a reboot (One to three seconds push on the power button; longer push will restore factory settings) Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-24 Thread Jacky
Hi all: I did not read the whole story here- anyway, as many of you enjoy more toolbox 2.0 I would like to test it by myself: Where can I download it? Second question: I already implemented Dynobot´s new touch mods- so would be there any possible interference with TB 2.0? Thanks in advance

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-21 Thread breizheau
Hi Caad, i am doing the mods you wrote here : http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=645223postcount=791 I have some troubles with : - U15 et U33 (clock switch). On which pin do i have to put the caps ? - U34 (buffer output). Where i have to put the caps ? Regards, Olivier --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread HumanMedia
Huge thanks Klaus! Installed and donation made. What is the recommended version of server to use? I use the latest official 7.6.1 (and I am using all Flac so no disappearing files), but is there any other benefit using the latest nightly 7.6.2 build? -- HumanMedia

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread krzys
Hi guys, I tired on two computers and have the same difficulty, the imbedded pictures doesn’t display at all. A lot of settings are shown on those pictures. Does anyone have the same problem? BTW I think that TT 3.0 deserves it own tread Chris -- krzys

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread HumanMedia
Assuming you have tt 3.0 installed, try changing the priority of the spdif process to 51. chrt -f -p 51 367 Is it just me and my setup, or does this improve things further? (softer more natural highs) -- HumanMedia

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread Jeff Flowerday
Is it me or does the bass seem reduced a little with 3.0? I'm just wondering if this new definition and clarity we are are all hearing is coming at a price of losing some bottom end and fullness. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread cymbop
First off, I want to thank Klaus for his efforts and for sharing them with the world. I've been delighted with the 2.0 toolbox and feel it's brought by system to a level that I have never heard before. A donation is on the way. I did all the 3.0 installs except screen off, and sat down to a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread HumanMedia
Jeff Flowerday;667148 Wrote: Is it me or does the bass seem reduced a little with 3.0? I'm just wondering if this new definition and clarity we are are all hearing is coming at a price of losing some bottom end and fullness. I've found that bass seems better, or at least fuller, with tt3

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread soundcheck
I'll fork into a new thread from here, if that is OK with you. Of course a lot of interesting stuff discussed over here will get lost over time. Anyhow. Sometimes it's good to start over. One hint. Instead of rolling back certain features you should try to find certain other bottlenecks. I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-03 Thread soundcheck
Just done the fork. Thx to all your valuable contributions over here. To be continued over there: 'soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322) -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread mjock3
Quote: I'm in the process of rewriting the blog. That's why it is not available for the time being. Tomorrow at 1500 Zulu you'll find TT30 and the new documentation. Cheers __ ::: Squeezebox Touch Toolbox 2.0 and more ::: by soundcheck -- mjock3

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread mjock3
Quote: posted 11/1/11 I'm in the process of rewriting the blog. That's why it is not available for the time being. Tomorrow at 1500 Zulu you'll find TT30 and the new documentation. Cheers __ ::: Squeezebox Touch Toolbox 2.0 and more ::: by soundcheck -- mjock3

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread soundcheck
Have fun tonight. ;) -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread reverendo
Klaus, I had a look at your blog. Maybe I'm thick, but I didn't find the TT3.0. Just put my system up again after moving. Am using a Welborne Labs PS which made a great difference. hope hearing from you best regards and thanks in advance André -- reverendo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread lake_eleven
reverendo;666902 Wrote: Klaus, I had a look at your blog. Maybe I'm thick, but I didn't find the TT3.0. Just put my system up again after moving. Am using a Welborne Labs PS which made a great difference. hope hearing from you best regards and thanks in advance André You can see it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread reverendo
thanks a lot I use the digital out and it DEFINITELY made a differece. The difference was such that my wife heard the difference. No placebo effect here. best regards André -- reverendo reverendo's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread rgro
Hi Soundcheck... I implemented both the LMS 7.7.0 upgrades, re-did dynaudiorules' alsa threading/interupt mods, and put in TT 3.0 all this morning. Everything seems to be working fine, though I will see if any bugs bite over the next few days. One question I had, though: why do you recommend

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread soundcheck
rgro;666920 Wrote: Hi Soundcheck... I implemented both the LMS 7.7.0 upgrades, re-did dynaudiorules' alsa threading/interupt mods, and put in TT 3.0 all this morning. Everything seems to be working fine, though I will see if any bugs bite over the next few days. One question I had,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread rgro
soundcheck;666924 Wrote: I'm not sure if these dynaudio-rules mods are still required. I'm running my own optimizations in that area. They might even interfere. For now I wouldn't use those different approaches in parallel. You end up not knowing of what is doing what. At a later

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread soundcheck
yep. just a reboot. -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread rgro
soundcheck;666934 Wrote: yep. just a reboot. Yep...just tried it, now I understand how it works, thanks. I just commented out the dynaudiorules' mods. I can then re-implement them very quickly if need be I'll give things a good long listen over the next few days and see how it all

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread firedog
Hi Klaus- Just installed 3.0, it works great. The help screen is a great new feature, as is the screen on-off command. Overall a more friendly, more convenient package. And I must say, I do think the SQ is improved over V 2.0. My system sounds cleaner and clearer to me. It's not a huge

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread c-eling
Many Thanks Klaus,worked liked a charm on 7.5.5,no problems on 24/96,windows 7/64,tutorial was great even for a newbie like me :) -- c-eling c-eling's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48050 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread cvj
After downloading Soundcheck's new modification toolkit 3.0 and installing it without any problems thanks to the very clear step-by-step documentation provided on the blog, I am totally blown away with the very obvious improvements to my listening experience. I have no hesitancy to recommend

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread pandasharka
Many thanks to you Klaus V3 is clear step up from V2, congratulations I (and I hope a lot of fellow members) will be making a donation towards the development fund. Only issue I have seen is probably specific to my set up in that i use Spotify premium and need the screen display. There is a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread pandasharka
Just had the chance to listen to a few of my fave tracks again and everything is more alive and musical - compared to V2, V3 is different league. Now, what Logitech should do is hardwire these software mods, and blow the Sonos / Linn DS brigade away. But only after employing Klaus and paying

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread reverendo
just installed everything and listened to my test files in order to evaluate. the word that keeps popping up in my mind is 'clearer'. Everything is more transparent, low-level details show up more easily. Seems like I have a blacker background. I spent the whole afternoon experimenting with power

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread bluegaspode
reverendo;667010 Wrote: PPS: I work semi-professionaly with music production so chance of placebo effect is definitely lower than normal. Why? I'd say quite the opposite is true. Due to cognitive dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance) you are even more eager to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread Jeff Flowerday
What's everyone's thoughts on the tt -k mod? -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread reverendo
bluegaspode;667014 Wrote: Why? I'd say quite the opposite is true. Due to cognitive dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance) you are even more eager to hear _something_ when so many more people claim they can hear something (or indeed do hear improvements).

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread sckramer
Really really good, it sounds better than freaking ever, Thank You Klaus! -- sckramer CiAudio vdc-Sb - Touch (TT 3.0 mods) PSaudio DL3 DAC (Cullen 4 mods) - PSaudio Trio C-100 Amp (Cullen 3 mods) Energy Veritas 2.2i speakers (mundorf silver oil capacitor, inductor, and resistor mods) Martin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-11-02 Thread rgro
+1 and my donation was sent to Klaus this evening. Hopefully, many more will take the time to donate in thanks for his efforts that benefit us Touch users. -- rgro Rg System information Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Touch (wired) via optical Rega DAC LFD LE

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-30 Thread cvj
Hmmm - Klaus must be getting very close to releasing TT 3.0... Clicking on the TT 2.0 page gets the following result: Page not found Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog soundcheck's - audio@vise does not exist. Go to blog homepage Just guessing :-) Perhaps it is just The Halloween

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-29 Thread cvj
.?? -- cvj cvj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-29 Thread rgro
cvj;666149 Wrote: .?? As of this morning: Folks. Status Update My norwegian beta-test branch , reported slight instabilities of TT3.0 last night. I hoped that I got the reporeted issue under control. I need to look into it. Sorry. As soon as I get it fixed TT3.0 will be released.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-26 Thread Fukinagashi
Will the 3.0 mods include also the 2.0s? Sorry if I've lost something in the route! -- Fukinagashi Fukinagashi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42922 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-26 Thread reverendo
soundcheck;665140 Wrote: Hi folks. TT 3.0 - the tool - is ready for release now. I got all the little issues fixed. I now need to do the documentation stuff. It'll take me a day or two. Over the weekend I re-introduced * the 100% volume lock mod, which some of you might have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-26 Thread cvj
Eagerly awaiting the release of TT 3.0 Perhaps Klaus has gotten a case of Writer's Block :-) -- cvj cvj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2979 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-25 Thread guidof
Hi Klaus: Last night my SBT froze (happens every few months). Had to do a factory reset to bring it back, and as a result had to listen without TT 2.0 for a little while. A bit bland sound, by comparison . . . I was again reminded of the improvement in SQ that your mods have made! Looking

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-24 Thread soundcheck
Hi folks. TT 3.0 - the tool - is ready for release now. I got all the little issues fixed. I now need to do the documentation stuff. It'll take me a day or two. Over the weekend I re-introduced * the 100% volume lock mod, which some of you might have tried earlier (TT beta-blog). I thought

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-21 Thread praganj
waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0, waiting for TT 3.0 ... ;) ;) :) -- praganj

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-21 Thread soundcheck
I'm in the final phase of testing. Just relax. Just stepped over a little problem, which I need to get fixed first. If you start doing happy-testing usually some odd things happen. And that just happened to me. Then I need to prepare also the new instructions. I'm not sure if I manage to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-21 Thread praganj
Hi Klaus, Just take Your time :) Great thanks for all Your great work for the SBT community ! -- praganj praganj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41091 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-21 Thread lake_eleven
Great to hear the update from Klaus. BTW, will 3.0 include the thread priority changes. Should the existing rCS file changes be rolled back?. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-21 Thread soundcheck
lake_eleven;664700 Wrote: Great to hear the update from Klaus. BTW, will 3.0 include the thread priority changes. Should the existing rCS file changes be rolled back?. Yep and more priority reshuffling, TCP/IP and networking adjustments, kernel parameter adjustments screen on/off

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-20 Thread adamdea
SoftwireEngineer;664286 Wrote: I agree with most of what Soundcheck wrote. Jitter happens at source as well as during transmission. If you have bits in memory and you clock it out at a certain frequency, say 44.1kHz, the clock's instability is the source of jitter. If these bits are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-20 Thread RadioClash
Thanks Soundcheck, looking forward to the new TT 3.0. Bring it! -- RadioClash RadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread SoftwireEngineer
adamdea;664035 Wrote: It is worth noting that it is now possible to buy cheap dacs with virtually no jitter (as measured by the conventional j test)ie jitter-rejection and intrinsic jitter to a level below anything that mainstream theory would consider to be significant. An example would be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread soundcheck
Hi guys. There are also endless discussions about jitter and other distortions at Audio Asyslum. Fact is that there is NO device at any price out which has proven to manage to decouple 100% from source induced jitter/timing variations, common-mode-noise, power variations, mains polution,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread firedog
Stilly77;664118 Wrote: agree good jitter read: http://amorgignitamorem.nl/Audio/Jitter/Detection%20threshold%20for%20distortions%20due%20to%20jitter%20on%20digital%20audio%2026_50.pdf Except that that test, just like many such tests, doesn't account for the listener and his abilities.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread Stilly77
firedog;664215 Wrote: Except that that test, just like many such tests, doesn't truly account for the listener and his abilities. The article itself notes that listeners abilties may be critical. And just because audio professionals were used, it doesn't mean they understand what jitter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread adamdea
firedog;664215 Wrote: Except that that test, just like many such tests, doesn't truly account for the listener and his abilities. The article itself notes that listeners abilties may be critical. And just because audio professionals were used, it doesn't mean they understand what jitter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;664230 Wrote: AFAIK You would not expect a decently designed dac to show jitter levels on the j test over maybe 200pS (ie 100 times lower than 20ns) on 16 bit data and considerably less on 24 bit data . Many are now much lower (the MF VDAC2 was measured at 10pS for 24/48 by Paul

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread SoftwireEngineer
I agree with most of what Soundcheck wrote. Jitter happens at source as well as during transmission. If you have bits in memory and you clock it out at a certain frequency, say 44.1kHz, the clock's instability is the source of jitter. If these bits are transmitted over a cable to a separate DAC,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-19 Thread pandasharka
I use Soundcheck's mods and believe they give a noticeable improvement. Don't know how or why and would prefer to keep it that way. Looking forward to trying 3.0 when Klaus releases it. All this talk about jitter etc is over my head, surely life is too short? Why not just enjoy the Squeezebox

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-18 Thread adamdea
SoftwireEngineer;663976 Wrote: Good links. Jitter is real and you can hear it if you are system is transparent and has reasonable quality. There are some good technical articles on this subject on stereophile.com as well. The simplest technique they have to measure is to feed a specific

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-18 Thread Stilly77
adamdea;664035 Wrote: It is worth noting that it is now possible to buy cheap dacs with virtually no jitter (as measured by the conventional j test)ie jitter-rejection and intrinsic jitter to a level below anything that mainstream theory would consider to be significant. An example would be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-18 Thread Gadgety1
Thanks! Interesting read! -- Gadgety1 Gadgety1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-17 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Jitter is playback of the bits in a wavering output frequency..eg 44.1kHz+- few khz. The frequency of changes in the root/base frequency of 44.1Khz is in the Khz range as well (unlike a few hertz in the rpm of a turntable). Why is the playback not happening at a rock steady 44.1Khz ? This is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-17 Thread adamdea
SoftwireEngineer;663777 Wrote: Jitter is playback of the bits in a wavering output frequency..eg 44.1kHz+- few khz. The frequency of changes in the root/base frequency of 44.1Khz is in the Khz range as well (unlike a few hertz in the rpm of a turntable). Why is the playback not happening at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-17 Thread mjock3
soundcheck;663288 Wrote: Hi folks. FYI. I'll release TT3.0 next week on the 22nd. On the 20th I'll release a Beta, just to get some feedback from the early adopters . Sorry for the delay. You can expect lots of changes an improvements. I guess many of you will like it. ;)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-17 Thread SoftwireEngineer
adamdea;663864 Wrote: I'm not an expert on this area (or engineering of any sort) but an interested reader might wish to consider the links I have provided in my post linked below to articles written by people who are. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=657572postcount=13

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-16 Thread Jeff Flowerday
soundcheck;663288 Wrote: Hi folks. FYI. I'll release TT3.0 next week on the 22nd. On the 20th I'll release a Beta, just to get some feedback from the early adopters . Cheers Is 7.7 going to be required? I've been avoiding it like the plague. -- Jeff Flowerday

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-15 Thread Gadgety1
pippin;656569 Wrote: The real fun starts when you do double-blind tests (yes, I know, never do double-blind tests with audiophiles. Scientific methodology is evil by definition) with low-bitrate mp3s. Yes, people will be able to tell the difference. The fun is what they find to sound better.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-15 Thread Sligolad
soundcheck;663288 Wrote: Hi folks. FYI. I'll release TT3.0 next week on the 22nd. On the 20th I'll release a Beta, just to get some feedback from the early adopters . Sorry for the delay. You can expect lots of changes an improvements. I guess many of you will like it. ;)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-15 Thread reverendo
Mnyb;663310 Wrote: be carefull with Wellborne labs , they are a known fraud ( google ), they does not always deliver a product sometimes they just take your money, it's a lottery . for details just ask me. Technically it migth not be anything wrong with the PS enjoy your product .

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-14 Thread reverendo
just had a rather long look at this thread. very interesting. I have used Klaus' mods in the past, but due to changing residence didn't get back to using it. At that time it made a difference, though not huge. Still, a difference (for the better) only with SW is a HUGE thing in an audiophile

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-14 Thread soundcheck
Hi folks. FYI. I'll release TT3.0 next week on the 22nd. On the 20th I'll release a Beta, just to get some feedback from the early adopters . Sorry for the delay. You can expect lots of changes an improvements. I guess many of you will like it. ;) USB DAC support is still not supported (I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-14 Thread Jeff Flowerday
soundcheck;663288 Wrote: Hi folks. FYI. I'll release TT3.0 next week on the 22nd. On the 20th I'll release a Beta, just to get some feedback from the early adopters . Sorry for the delay. You can expect lots of changes an improvements. I guess many of you will like it. ;)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-14 Thread Mnyb
be carefull with Wellborne labs , they are a known fraud ( google ), they does not always deliver a product sometimes they just take your money, it's a lottery . for details just ask me. Technically it migth not be anything wrong with the PS enjoy your product . With that kind of bussines

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-08 Thread Jeff Flowerday
Zorglub;661398 Wrote: Vaporware... Great first post, it's people like you who probably make Klaus not want to release it at all. Personally, I've been patiently waiting/hoping for 3.0 to be released. It's worth money to me. -- Jeff Flowerday

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-06 Thread firedog
Klaus is doing it for free, but if you like his software why not make a small contribution? I did. There's a link on his page. -- firedog GIK Acoustics Room Treatments. Tranquil PC fanless server running Vortexbox OS; SB Touch slaved to Empirical Audio Pace Car; MF X-DAC-V3, classDaudio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-06 Thread toby10
Zorglub;661398 Wrote: Vaporware... Sadly typical these days. Why contribute when you can criticize? I guess knowledge redistribution is now added to the *me* list. What is the color of the sky in your world? -- toby10

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-05 Thread Zorglub
Vaporware... -- Zorglub Zorglub's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-05 Thread PasTim
Zorglub;661398 Wrote: Vaporware... Can I suggest that you try to be more considerate? Some people, such as soundcheck, have spent a great deal of time developing stuff and then sharing it to the benefit of a lot of people. They don't have to release anything at all, at any time. If people do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-05 Thread Gazjam
PasTim;661433 Wrote: Can I suggest that you try to be more considerate? Some people, such as soundcheck, have spent a great deal of time developing stuff and then sharing it to the benefit of a lot of people. They don't have to release anything at all, at any time. If people do not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-05 Thread kiat
Zorglub;661398 Wrote: Vaporware... The expectation should be set correctly. We are getting someone's RD for free. He has no reason to publish it out. So stop trashing people for non-delivery -- kiat kiat's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-10-01 Thread cvj
Today is October 1st... Any news? -- cvj cvj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread Mnyb
adamdea;656532 Wrote: I am with you on this Tim. Not having a profession background in electronics nor an academic qualification, I have had to spend a lot of time catching up to a basic level. Now there are no incontestable statements in subjective hifi forumland, but there is I think

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread pippin
The real fun starts when you do double-blind tests (yes, I know, never do double-blind tests with audiophiles. Scientific methodology is evil by definition) with low-bitrate mp3s. Yes, people will be able to tell the difference. The fun is what they find to sound better. So much for trust your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread Mnyb
pippin;656569 Wrote: The real fun starts when you do double-blind tests (yes, I know, never do double-blind tests with audiophiles. Scientific methodology is evil by definition) with low-bitrate mp3s. Yes, people will be able to tell the difference. The fun is what they find to sound better.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread pippin
Yes, of course, but I would not be too hopeful. The way mp3 works (unless you optimize for encoding speed, not quality) will not even out characteristics but do just the opposite and exaggerate them by compressing away stuff the exaggerations tend to hide. This is getting more obvious the lower

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread adamdea
JohnSwenson;656501 Wrote: The issue of ground plane noise can cause problems even with an optical connection. It has to do with the transmitter, either electrical (coax) or optical, the input to the transmitter has a threshold, a voltage at which it sees the input as changing from a one

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread pippin
The jitter discussion is not about lost bits. The way SPDIF works (or better: as it was originally supposed to work) the source (here usually the Squeezebox) drives the clock for the DAC, NOT the device which does the actual conversion. Since the DAC is essentially a low-pass filter (OK, I'm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread adamdea
pippin;656591 Wrote: The jitter discussion is not about lost bits. The way SPDIF works (or better: as it was originally supposed to work) the source (here usually the Squeezebox) drives the clock for the DAC, NOT the device which does the actual conversion. Since the DAC is essentially a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread pippin
adamdea;656596 Wrote: I mean for heaven's sake we know the data is sampled at a sample rate of 44.1kHz, so why can't the data simply be decoded with a clock at that rate? Only becasue of a possible over-underrun of data: does that sound like an insurmountable problem? Basically as you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread audiomuze
89 pages of otherwise intelligent people tossing around hogwash...go figure :D -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)*

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread Phil Leigh
audiomuze;656622 Wrote: 89 pages of otherwise intelligent people tossing around hogwash...go figure :D And your point is? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-09 Thread adamdea
pippin;656602 Wrote: No, it's not that simple and this is also why SPDIF was originally designed as it is. The problem is that there is no such thing as a 44.1 kHz clock. You have a clocking device in your source and your DAC and both will have a frequency of 44.1 kHz +/- some deviation and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread PasTim
Phil Leigh;656291 Wrote: A mixture... All sorts... S/pdif, TOSLINK, adat light pipe, aes/ebu etc... and Indeed... Given the large number of optical connections used in pro studios... I foolishly assumed you meant that opticals were preferred. I am now (as usual) none the wiser, baffled and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread adamdea
PasTim;656460 Wrote: and I foolishly assumed you meant that opticals were preferred. I am now (as usual) none the wiser, baffled and confused. I think Phil's point was simply that they are widely used and that if they were obviously inferior to coax they would not be. -- adamdea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;656476 Wrote: I think Phil's point was simply that they are widely used and that if they were obviously inferior to coax they would not be. Correct. I don't usually have this much trouble communicating... :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread JohnSwenson
The issue of ground plane noise can cause problems even with an optical connection. It has to do with the transmitter, either electrical (coax) or optical, the input to the transmitter has a threshold, a voltage at which it sees the input as changing from a one to a zero, noise on the ground pin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread Phil Leigh
That's a completely different issue that gives rise to jitter which various dacs handle differently. Ground plane -borne noise is eliminated by galvanic isolation. Modern TOSLINK interfaces that work extremely reliably at 24/96 are clearly superior to the 1983 variety... -- Phil Leigh You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread PasTim
Phil Leigh;656481 Wrote: Correct. I don't usually have this much trouble communicating... :-) I'm sure it's my fault for being a bit thick or ignorant, or both :) I will say, however, that the whole topic of digital audio transmission is massively confusing, with so many contradictory

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread Phil Leigh
PasTim;656522 Wrote: I'm sure it's my fault for being a bit thick or ignorant, or both :) I will say, however, that the whole topic of digital audio transmission is massively confusing, with so many contradictory statements being made (often extremely forcefully, to put it mildly), that it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-09-08 Thread PasTim
Phil Leigh;656527 Wrote: The noise we are talking about doesn't change the bits, which is just as well or computers would be uselessly unpredictable! But unlike a computer, spdif has a clock mixed in with the bits and the noise CAN interfere with the certainty of the start/end of the clock

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