Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Julf
d6jg wrote: > The UCA202 is a great value for money device. Absolutely! But because it is cheap and has a cheap-looking plastic box, it isn't "audiophile quality". :) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Jeff07971
Julf wrote: > Absolutely! But because it is cheap and has a cheap-looking plastic box, > it isn't "audiophile quality". :) Well we can change that ! I can put it in a CNC'd case with an OTT analogue psu if you want, I'll charge $4000, OK :) *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3, Squeezebox

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Julf
d6jg wrote: > Unfortunately it doesn't actually need the analogue power supply (OTT or > otherwise) as its powered off the USB. Ah, but that is just theory. Theory can't explain everything. Have you actually *listened* to it yourself with an analog power supply? :) "To try to judge the real

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread d6jg
Excellent review of the UCA202 that I have just found http://nwavguy.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/behringer-uca202-review.html *Vortexbox LMS 7.8 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets *Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 ->

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread d6jg
Julf wrote: > The hardware is capable of 32, 44.1 and 48 kHz. Perhaps the drivers for > your OS limit it to 44.1, but I have not had any issues with 48 kHz > under linux. I have had a further look and you are correct. Apologies. The UCA202 is a great value for money device. I use one to "rip"

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Julf
d6jg wrote: > Has it got a power socket? I thought not. Or do you mean coupling with a > powered USB hub with a fancy supply? $4,500 in that case. It doesn't need a power socket. Everybody knows that just having a linear power supply in the same enclosure improves the sound. ;) "To try to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Julf
Jeff07971 wrote: > Well we can change that ! > I can put it in a CNC'd case with an OTT analogue psu if you want, I'll > charge $4000, OK :) Throw in a couple of bamboo fibre capacitors and a bit of silver wire, and we have a killer! :) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread d6jg
Jeff07971 wrote: > Well we can change that ! > I can put it in a CNC'd case with an OTT analogue psu if you want, I'll > charge $4000, OK :) Unfortunately it doesn't actually need the analogue power supply (OTT or otherwise) as its powered off the USB. A nice case and some unnecessarily

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread d6jg
Julf wrote: > Ah, but that is just theory. Theory can't explain everything. Have you > actually *listened* to it yourself with an analog power supply? :) Has it got a power socket? I thought not. Or do you mean coupling with a powered USB hub with a fancy supply? $4,500 in that case.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is anybody sick of the recent spate of threads?

2015-10-29 Thread Mnyb
Julf wrote: > Indeed. Many of the more advanced DACs have pretty good DSP capabilities > these days, but the problem is that many of the high-end "designers" > don't have the skill and capabilities to actually program them, so they > prefer "just connect some exotic external components and put

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Jeff07971
d6jg wrote: > Unfortunately it doesn't actually need the analogue power supply (OTT or > otherwise) as its powered off the USB. A nice case and some > unnecessarily expensive RCA & Optical cables in the box though and I > think $4,000 would be very reasonable. Oh No No NO !!! You have to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Julf
Jeff07971 wrote: > Oh No No NO !!! > > You have to galvanically isolate it and power the device itself from a > linear psu ! > > Otherwise you won't hear any difference ! I guess we better stop - somebody might think we are actually serious... "To try to judge the real from the false will

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Jeff07971
Julf wrote: > I guess we better stop - somebody might think we are actually serious... :) *Players:* SliMP3,Squeezebox3 x3, Squeezebox Receiver, SqueezePlayer, PiCorePlayer/RPi2/Hifiberry DAC+ x2,PiCorePlayer/RPi2/Hifiberry DAC+Pro,Wandboard SOA *Server:* Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Mnyb
d6jg wrote: > Unfortunately it doesn't actually need the analogue power supply (OTT or > otherwise) as its powered off the USB. A nice case and some > unnecessarily expensive RCA & Optical cables in the box though and I > think $4,000 would be very reasonable. Wonder if someone ever going to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is anybody sick of the recent spate of threads?

2015-10-29 Thread darrenyeats
Julf wrote: > And as I keep saying, having the headroom (given the word length of > modern DSP architectures) is not hard. Julf, I agree totally! Should never happen. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98661-Some-observations-about-the-Benchmark-DAC1/page2= see post 13 and 18

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is anybody sick of the recent spate of threads?

2015-10-29 Thread cliveb
darrenyeats wrote: > Julf, for me the money shot is here: > http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1990168=11 Darren, could you explain how you got those waveforms? As far as I can see, they are screen shots from an audio editor, which presumably means that you recorded the output of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread Julf
d6jg wrote: > I think you will find that the UCA202 is 16/44.1 not 16/48. The hardware is capable of 32, 44.1 and 48 kHz. Perhaps the drivers for your OS limit it to 44.1, but I have not had any issues with 48 kHz under linux. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is anybody sick of the recent spate of threads?

2015-10-29 Thread Julf
Mnyb wrote: > Funny enough i suspect a phone can best many DAC's in this regards as > they seems to have some really cool DSP onboard (in fact i think my > phone beats my first DAC in every other aspect as well ... ) Indeed. Many of the more advanced DACs have pretty good DSP capabilities these

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Logitech Transporter replacement

2015-10-29 Thread ralphy
Julf wrote: > The hardware is capable of 32, 44.1 and 48 kHz. Perhaps the drivers for > your OS limit it to 44.1, but I have not had any issues with 48 kHz > under linux. A quick run of alsacap confirms linux supports up to 48KHz. Code: Card 2, ID `CODEC', name `USB