Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-20 Thread Golden Earring
arnyk wrote: > That's encouraging. If there are still people who believe that the earth > is flat, this help explain why people still believe in magic DACs and > amps and cable, and the like. I've been advised that with a little pharmacological help you can still catch Xanadu & Brigadoon...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-20 Thread arnyk
darrenyeats wrote: > [image: > https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-ace1946ee57c0862eb29f7e06842d99c-c] That's encouraging. If there are still people who believe that the earth is flat, this help explain why people still believe in magic DACs and amps and cable, and the like.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-20 Thread darrenyeats
https://www.quora.com/Does-The-Flat-Earth-Society-have-members-all-around-the-globe Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread Golden Earring
Julf wrote: > But then there is this: 'Why the Flat Earth Movement is the Best Symbol > of the Increasingly Diminished Value of Truth and Intelligence' >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread drmatt
Archimago wrote: > You're reading this forum from the pub!? I guess it's not exactly a > "happening place" this Friday evening :-(. Heh. Not the whole forum, just catching up a couple of subscribed threads.. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread darrenyeats
Read the whole thing. Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread Wombat
darrenyeats wrote: > Real world 16/44 sometimes ends up with various kinds of dodginess above > 20kHz - none of which would matter if we had zero distortion playback > BTW. > > Some roll off starting somewhere below 20kHz could help - MP3 might be > an advantage in this context. See discussion

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread Archimago
ralphpnj wrote: > Okay so I'm late to the party. With spring now struggling to arrive here > in the northeastern US I have been busy out riding my bicycles (I have > several bicycles although I can only ride one at a time) rather than > sitting at the computer reading on-line audio forums. > >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread darrenyeats
Real world 16/44 sometimes ends up with various kinds of dodginess around 20-22kHz - none of which would matter if we had zero distortion playback BTW. Some roll off starting somewhere below 20kHz could help mitigate - MP3 might be an advantage in this context. See discussion

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread Archimago
drmatt wrote: > It seems to me that MP3 can deliberately "clean up" a complex signal and > make it sound more defined, just because it throws away some of the > subtlety. > > But then, I am sitting in a pub.. > > Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk Yes, that was my suspicion as well.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread Archimago
Julf wrote: > But then there is this: 'Why the Flat Earth Movement is the Best Symbol > of the Increasingly Diminished Value of Truth and Intelligence' >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread drmatt
It seems to me that MP3 can deliberately "clean up" a complex signal and make it sound more defined, just because it throws away some of the subtlety. But then, I am sitting in a pub.. Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-19 Thread Archimago
darrenyeats wrote: > 1. It was your MP3/FLAC test that convinced me I CAN distinguish MP3 and > FLAC! It was the metal track - I couldn't establish a preference, but I > could pick out A and B at will for that one track. Once, I randomised > the playlist and tried it 10 times. I got 9 right.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-13 Thread ralphpnj
darrenyeats wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU1PyzEVPdg Love it! Also check out the extended version of "Fallin' Like Dominoes" on Gare Du Nord's "Let's Have A Ball" release (sorry no video available). Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-13 Thread darrenyeats
ralphpnj wrote: > And once I was able to hear the truth with my own ears many of the > audiophile myths started to fall like dominoes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU1PyzEVPdg Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-13 Thread ralphpnj
Okay so I'm late to the party. With spring now struggling to arrive here in the northeastern US I have been busy out riding my bicycles (I have several bicycles although I can only ride one at a time) rather than sitting at the computer reading on-line audio forums. So far a very interesting

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-04 Thread daverich4
arnyk wrote: > Thanks for the kind words. I think this is the first post I've ever read by Arny that didn't have the word "Placebo" in it. daverich4's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16539 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-01 Thread arnyk
Archimago wrote: > I've certainly seen Arny K's tireless efforts over the years... Hey, who > can forget Arny's tete-a-tete with John Atkinson in 2005! > > 'The Great Audiophile Debate - John Atkinson vs. Arny Krueger' > (https://youtu.be/oyaWMpnhusA) > > Amazing that was 12 years ago, Arny!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-01 Thread darrenyeats
Archimago wrote: > For those new to some of our discussions here over the years, here are a > few links over the years which I've tried to provide evidence for and > thoughts I wanted people to consider. I've tried to maintain a general > structure in mind of topics to address, many of which are

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-01 Thread Mnyb
Julf wrote: > But then there is this: 'Why the Flat Earth Movement is the Best Symbol > of the Increasingly Diminished Value of Truth and Intelligence' >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-05-01 Thread Julf
But then there is this: 'Why the Flat Earth Movement is the Best Symbol of the Increasingly Diminished Value of Truth and Intelligence' (http://news.nationalpost.com/life/why-the-flat-earth-movement-is-the-best-symbol-of-the-increasingly-diminished-value-of-truth-and-intelligence) "ItÂ’s the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-04-30 Thread Mnyb
I tend to think of it as a cultural thing . I'm no anthropologist and can't always find the words in English ( not my first language). It's giving "them" to much credit calling conspiracy all the time . The audiophile community has iterated down to this in small steps , it's just what happens

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-04-30 Thread Archimago
Wombat wrote: > The efforts you and others do is simply amazing! Thanks for that. > It should be mentioned that people like Arnold K. spend much time in > several forums and events to make people think about their own > percetption. > Over the last years i see several High-End peddlers are more

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-04-30 Thread Wombat
The efforts you and others do is simply amazing! Thanks for that. It should be mentioned that people like Arnold K. spend much time in several forums and events to make people think about their own percetption. Over the last years i see several High-End peddlers are more cautious with direct

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-04-30 Thread Archimago
For those new to some of our discussions here over the years, here are a few links over the years which I've tried to provide evidence for and thoughts I wanted people to consider. I've tried to maintain a general structure in mind of topics to address, many of which are contemporaneous with

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on the Audiophile Holy Wars :-).

2017-04-30 Thread Archimago
Archimago wrote: > H. As others say, this is really not possible. > > I fear to ask just how noisy your DAC is! Over the years of > measurements, I have never seen noise all that significant over a USB > interface unless something went wrong like picking up ground loop hum > and stuff like