Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-07-06 Thread Peter Champness
Thanks Mike, Incredible! I have had the opportunity to see Frigate birds on the Ashmore Islands years ago, long before it was realised that thermals occur over the sea. Now they even fly in clouds and sleep on the wings and stay aloft for weeks at a time.. My only disappointment with the video

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating, varios, etc

2016-07-05 Thread Justin Sinclair
Mike, Another interesting addition will be data distribution. All of the airlines are working towards data being sent between airframes autonomously. This will allow the most efficient climb, cruise and descent possible, if we could get systems like dynamis to feed the air data and project

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating, varios, etc

2016-07-05 Thread Mike Borgelt
So what did you think of the aircraft? The Akaflieg Munich came up with a completely mechanical automatic flap system which combined airspeed and g load about 30 years ago. Didn't go anywhere I was told because GERMAN glider pilots NEVER fly in the wrong flap setting :-). I think the

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-07-05 Thread Matthew Scutter
I was lucky enough to fly the DuckHawk for 8 hours this weekend - it now has a very impressive electric flap system. There's no flap handle, it's just always in the right position. While the computer vision tech to read clouds/terrian is a long way off (in my opinion), I reckon a perfect dolphin

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-07-05 Thread Mike Borgelt
You can fly for long times cross country by using thermals. Who knew? http://phys.org/news/2016-07-great-frigate-birds-months.html Surprising they say the birds fly INSIDE clouds using the thermals. They aren't meant to be able to do this I thought. (See Philip Wills - Where No Birds Fly)

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Richard Frawley
unless he hurries, he will miss the opportunity. > On 29 Jun 2016, at 8:48 PM, Ron Sanders wrote: > > And it will too!!! > > ron > > On 29 June 2016 at 20:01, Richard Frawley > wrote: > I thought Mike was building the

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Ron Sanders
And it will too!!! ron On 29 June 2016 at 20:01, Richard Frawley wrote: > I thought Mike was building the cheating device to beat all other cheating > devices > > > > > On 29 Jun 2016, at 7:59 PM, Justin Couch wrote: > > > > On 29/06/2016 7:42 PM, Mike

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Richard Frawley
a 100% gust immune vario will go a long way to ensure older pilots with less sensitive inner ears can have the same feel as lower age pilots > On 29 Jun 2016, at 8:06 PM, Justin Couch wrote: > > On 29/06/2016 8:01 PM, Richard Frawley wrote: >> I thought Mike was building

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Justin Couch
On 29/06/2016 8:01 PM, Richard Frawley wrote: I thought Mike was building the cheating device to beat all other cheating devices Michelin/Bridgestone/etc built tyres to beat tyres from all other manufacturers. Eventually one design got enforced and one of the manufacturers selected to be

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Justin Couch
On 29/06/2016 7:42 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: Peter, It won't be long before all of gliding is regarded as just a branch of vintage aviation, if it isn't already. I wish it wasn't like that but wishing won't make it so. I don't disagree with this point at all, but do want to point out that most

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
Peter, It won't be long before all of gliding is regarded as just a branch of vintage aviation, if it isn't already. I wish it wasn't like that but wishing won't make it so. Think about it. The advent of mass relatively low cost mass jet air travel nearly 60 years ago has meant that flying

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Peter Champness
"Gliding ain't what it used to be. " Spot on Mike. After your devastating analysis is it any wonder that Vintage Gliding is becoming more popular? Fortunately there are still some skills required. You still have to land your glider successfully. On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:50 PM, Mike Borgelt <

Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating

2016-06-29 Thread Ross McLean
From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 5:50 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating Depends how you define it and what level of help you consider