Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Rob Wintulich]

BTW  --By The Way

Not VH registration!

From: Peter Brookman 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 10:16 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

BTW
Manufacturer: 
PIPER AIRCRAFT CORP
Model: 
PA-34-200
Serial number: 
34-7450107
Engine type: 
Piston
No of engines: 
2
Aircraft first registered in Australia: 
3 June 1974
Year of manufacture: 
1974
Registration holder: 
TISDALL BTW PTY LTD U 2 224 Qantas Ave ARCHERFIELD QLD 4108 Australia
Registration holder commencement date: 
9 May 2016
Registered operator: 
FLIGHT ONE (SERVICES) PTY LTD 224 Qantas Ave ARCHERFIELD QLD 4108 Australia
Registered operator commencement date: 
9 May 2016

From: Mike Borgelt 
Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 11:39 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

That was an hour or two after finding one that had been blown over out the back 
of a hangar a couple of years before. It was still on the register. A 
Kookaburra BTW.

Mike

On 1 Feb 2017, at 9:07 PM, Mike Borgelt  wrote:


  I've pushed a hangar door open and had pieces of a glider still on the 
register fall out of the rafters

  Mike

  On 1 Feb 2017, at 9:02 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:


Registration doesn’t expire, so an aircraft stays on the register even if 
it’s wrecked in a blown-over trailer in a corner of a gliding field that its 
deceased owner hasn’t visited for ten years. 

The real point of interest is the number of form-2 kits the GFA sells each 
year. 

Mandy Temple’s “Mande-news” on June 10 last year included an extract from 
the GFA’s Salesforce database, which said there were 738 gliders with a current 
form-2 as of that date.

So - slightly over half of the total number of registered gliders are 
airworthy.

The same extract said 2584 members flew GFA aircraft for 115,100 hours from 
68,200 launches in 2015-16 (based on form-2 returns).  That means every 
airworthy GFA aircraft averaged 156 hours and 92 launches, making the average 
GFA aircraft flight 102 minutes long.

Not sure what to make of that. Must be some absolute bladder-buster long 
endurance flights to compensate for the thousands of 6 minute circuits all the 
winch clubs spend most of the winter flying.

Also means the average GFA member logs about 45 hours per year. Once again, 
some pilots must be absolutely cranking out the hours to make up for the 
trainees who only log between 5 and 20 hours per year.

The other weird numbers worth noting: GFA had issued 932 GPCs, and had 189 
AEIs, 97 Level 1 instructors, 306 Level 2 instructors, and 97 Level 3 
instructors. That’s 689 members with instructor ratings (out of 2584 total — 
over a quarter of GFA’s membership base), and each Level 3 having their very 
own personal Level 1 to train. 

Let me put it another way: There’s an instructor for every three 
non-instructor GFA members.

The ratio is even stranger if you compare instructor headcount to GPC 
holders, and observe that 689 of those 932 GPCs are actually supposed to be 
instructors.

I reckon GFA members get instructor ratings instead of Level-2 Independent 
Ops.  If you want to fly club aircraft whenever you want without needing 
anyone’s permission, nearly 700 members have worked out that it’s easier to get 
an instructor rating than a Level 2 Independent Operator rating. Also easier to 
get a crew organized if you’re an instructor and you offer to run a day.

That’s a perverse outcome, isn't it?  I mean, in an ideal world, it 
wouldn’t be that way?

  - mark



  On 1 Feb 2017, at 6:04 PM, steph...@internode.on.net wrote:





  From the aircraft register of  2013

  1220 gliders and motor gliders

  950 privately owned

  270 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc.



  last year

  1276 gliders and motor gliders (+4.6%, 56 actual)

  981 privately owned (+3.3%, 31 actual)

  295 owned by clubs/cadets/societies etc. (+9.3%, 25 actual)



  Only about 3 years difference, I'd be reluctant to say too much about 
trends, have to go back and dig up a really old one. But private ownership (in 
absolute terms) increasing more than club ownership (and as others will point 
out, only about half of the gliders in Australia are given an annual in any one 
year, so it all may be moot anyway).

  gliders on the register newer than 3 years old in 2016 - (64 total) 

  36 private

  28 club

  Of those 64 new gliders 18 "pure" (mostly DG1000s, and 10 of them air 
cadets), 46 with some sort of motor. That's a clue to the future right there.





  For pilot flying times, much more difficult to get a handle on. 








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[Aus-soaring] 34th WGC Photos

[Rob Wintulich]

Hi all,
For anyone interested there is a small selection of Benalla images at the 
following link:--

http://www.sportaircraft.org.au/aircrft-galleries/flying-stories/world-gliding-championships-2017/
I only spent 3 days at the comps but managed to take 2500 pics plus video.  
If people are interested enough I could organise a more expansive and higher 
quality gallery.


Regards,
Rob Wintulich
President



 
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[Aus-soaring] Perlan Progress

[Rob Wintulich]

For those who may be interested, Perlan 2 has just reached 32,500 feet (9,900m) 
altitude over El Calafate, Argentina in its preparation for record attempts 
later in the year.
http://newatlas.com/perlan-2-altitude/50772/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers_campaign=58cd37f543-UA-2235360-4_medium=email_term=0_65b67362bd-58cd37f543-91911877

Regards,
Rob Wintulich.

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Re: [Aus-soaring] RASP no longer updating/needed for SA

[Rob Wintulich]

Thanks Mark for that info.

Rob W

From: Mark Newton
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 11:26 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] RASP no longer updating/needed for SA

On 7 Sep 2017, at 4:11 PM, Rob Wintulich <r...@signwizard.com.au> wrote:

  Yes, I care and I also love that particular RASP facility.

  My understanding is that someone appropriately informed and willing needs to 
service an area to keep it up and running.  Mark Newton may be someone who 
might be able to inform us better!?!

Nah, I’m the temp trace guy, not the RASP guy.

The temp trace site is still ingesting data, and still running. I haven’t 
looked at the logs recently to see how often it’s being used, but as long as 
data is available it’s still able to work.

Data is less available than it used to be. In 2004, Peter Temple organized a 
free account with the Bureau of Meteorology for the raw data on each of the 
temp trace sites. They shut that down a couple of years ago. We got ten years 
out of it for free, but they didn’t want to continue it without billing about 
$2500 per annum to keep it alive, and the availability of RASP and Matt 
Scutter’s experimentation with SkySight suggested to me that maybe that wasn’t 
a good investment.

Consequently, I switched the data ingestion back to University of Wyoming’s 
Upper Air Project, which gets the same BoM data I used to get, but with a delay 
of about an hour. That’s why the traces aren’t as early each morning as they 
used to be.

My site has stored every single sounding datapoint it has ingested for the last 
14 years. The sounding data table in the database has about 22 million rows. 
Nearly a decade and a half of several-times-per-day data for has proved to be a 
useful resource to some people: I’ve been asked to make extracts available to 
climate science departments at a couple of universities, and the data has 
informed some PhD projects.

I reckon the hang glider folks still use it too. I occasionally get questions 
or attaboys from them.

The best bit is that it’s required almost no maintenance, so I’m happy to let 
it sit on my server more or less forever. I wrote the software in the first 
half of the last decade, and except for a few small updates to cope with data 
provider changes and a couple of week-long outages when I’ve moved house, it’s 
run on autopilot ever since. I wish every software project I did was as 
reliable as this one :-D

  For the real die-hards (or moneyed,) a lot of folk are migrating to 
subscription services like Matthew Scutter’s SkySight which offer even more 
than ‘common’ old RASP, but for old hacks like myself who just want to be able 
to pick out the  regular good days each season, RASP is great.  If the task of 
maintenance is not too onerous I’d be happy to keep an eye on it, but I would 
need guidance and assistance initially to get me ‘installed’


Honestly, I’d recommend SkySight. Not just because it’s empirically excellent, 
but also because the gliding community is so small that useful facilities can 
only continue to be provided if people who need them support them.

Matthew’s trying to make a living out of SkySight.io. He’ll be motivated to 
keep it “good” as long as the money tap doesn’t dry up so much that he has to 
get a real job instead :-)

- mark




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Re: [Aus-soaring] RASP no longer updating/needed for SA

[Rob Wintulich]

Hi Ulrich,

Yes, I care and I also love that particular RASP facility.

My understanding is that someone appropriately informed and willing needs to 
service an area to keep it up and running.  Mark Newton may be someone who 
might be able to inform us better!?!

For the real die-hards (or moneyed,) a lot of folk are migrating to 
subscription services like Matthew Scutter’s SkySight which offer even more 
than ‘common’ old RASP, but for old hacks like myself who just want to be able 
to pick out the  regular good days each season, RASP is great.  If the task of 
maintenance is not too onerous I’d be happy to keep an eye on it, but I would 
need guidance and assistance initially to get me ‘installed’

Is anyone interested in helping me?

Regards,
Rob Wintulich

From: Ulrich Stauss 
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 12:43 PM
To: aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au 
Subject: [Aus-soaring] RASP no longer updating/needed for SA

Hi Australian Soaring Community,

 

I noticed that RASP at http://glidingforecast.on.net/RASP/RASPtable.html hasn’t 
been updating the SA data for a while now and I’m wondering whether it is just 
a process that crashed and didn’t get restarted because nobody noticed... With 
a number of other alternatives this is probably not an issue or is anyone still 
using RASP (or would like to use it in SA)? For the eastern states it still 
seems to work.

Does anyone care?

 

Ulrich

 


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Re: [Aus-soaring] details Lake Keepit

[Rob Wintulich]

Grietje,

After you get the 404, delete averything after .com in the address line and 
you get to the LKSC site and the rest is navigable from there.


Regards,
Rob W

-Original Message- 
From: Grietje Wansink

Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 8:15 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] details Lake Keepit

Hi Jacques,

thank you, but those links give 404.

Regards,
Grietje

On 22 Jan. 2018, at 8:43 pm, Jacques Graells  
wrote:


Links below.

http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/index.php/visiting-lksc/where-is-lake-keep
it

http://www.keepitsoaring.com/LKSC/index.php/information/club-contacts/12-con
tacts/3-general-enquiries


Regards

Jacques


-Original Message-
From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On 
Behalf

Of Grietje Wansink
Sent: Monday, 22 January 2018 8:08 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.

Subject: [Aus-soaring] details Lake Keepit

I would like to have the details of the gliding club Lake Keepit.

I cannot find it on their website, nor GFA website.

Name
Residential or organisation physical address postal address


Thank you in advance
Grietje


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