Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Philip Loenneker
Your story hits on an issue we have had too… When ordering FttN, you can choose to have voiceband continuity (connection back to the exchange) or not. Usually we choose to not have it, because the VDSL sync speeds in general are better without the noise from upstream. But we have had customers

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread David Hughes
On 24 Oct 2017, at 1:30 pm, Benjamin Ricardo > wrote: My question is, if this NBN is all about super-fast internet why force people to change their phone service? Because if you can keep a PSTN service then you could run ADSL over it and

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Benjamin Ricardo
My 2c Real world problems for us have been mostly to do with Voice services. I don’t know why but porting numbers is worse than pulling teeth and takes about 400x as long, Cat-A, Cat-C doesn’t matter, it sucks eggs. When I heard they were converting to FTTN from FTTP I initially thought beaut,

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Giles Pollock
Nah, the NBN issue is more along the lines of stringing a cable across a neighboring property, through a tree and low enough across a shared driveway for a truck to rip it out, when the entire installation is supposed to be underground (and yes the pits and conduit exist). Then further techs

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Mark Newton
On Oct 24, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Giles Pollock wrote: > > Difference is on NBN your landline is converted to a VoIP line and provided > by the ISP. Said ISP won't divulge the SIP configuration so if you want to > use it you're locked in to using their provided router. A router

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Giles Pollock
Bingo, and thats pretty much what we ended up doing, along with getting hold of the OEM firmware for the router and pulling it apart so we could figure out how to exploit the local CGIs to divulge all local configuration. It was what gathering the information from the ACS also exposed which was a

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Philip Loenneker
Personally, I would rather have less access to that kind of information so that you have less responsibility to collect it… I seem to recall the data retention legislation being very clear that if you don’t have access to information, you aren’t required to collect it. I think this is more

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Giles Pollock
Difference is on NBN your landline is converted to a VoIP line and provided by the ISP. Said ISP won't divulge the SIP configuration so if you want to use it you're locked in to using their provided router. A router which dials home for config and happily feeds back all the leases it gives out to

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Robert Hudson
On 24 October 2017 at 10:37, Giles Pollock wrote: > On that topic... What is everyone's thoughts on the prospect of ISPs > recording and having access to internal network data, such as knowing what > devices are given what DHCP leases and the like? Seems a bit invasive to me >

Re: [AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Giles Pollock
A risky project, ultimately ruined by politics. After seeing the disaster my brother has been through with his NBN HFC installation and his ISPs ineptitude both in how they forced a service porting onto a reported faulty installation as well as his finding an absolutely hideous security issue, I

[AusNOG] ABC 4Corners - What's Wrong with the NBN?

2017-10-23 Thread Tim Raphael
For those that didn’t watch 4Corners last night, this is very much worth watching. It really shows how NZ’s UFB compares to NBN. http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/four-corners/NC1704H037S00 -

Re: [AusNOG] TPP wholesale - urgent

2017-10-23 Thread Christopher Hawker
I also sympathise with you Luke. Every single experience with TPP has never been great. I shall sacrifice a Pentium 4 desktop PC to our Lord God Kre in your honour. Regards, Christopher H. From: AusNOG on behalf of Burt

Re: [AusNOG] TPP wholesale - urgent

2017-10-23 Thread Burt Mascareigne
My Sympathies Luke. I think, every single transfer I have ever done with them has failed and I’ve had to get TPP to do “Something” on their end to make it work. Those ABN check never pass ☹ I delete a VM to appease our Lord God Kre in your honour. Regards, Burt Mascareigne Mobile 0414

Re: [AusNOG] TPP wholesale - urgent

2017-10-23 Thread John Edwards
If you are an old testament sysadmin, the appropriate deity for Australian domains is Lord God Kre, from the temple of Munnari. On 23 October 2017 at 18:52, Ross Wheeler wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, Luke Fong wrote: > > If there is anyone on list that could assist, please

Re: [AusNOG] TPP wholesale - urgent

2017-10-23 Thread Ross Wheeler
On Mon, 23 Oct 2017, Luke Fong wrote: I have a customer with Uber/ TPP wholesale who is having a major issue. I'm sure you have all our sympathies. If there is anyone on list that could assist, please reach out offlist. I doubt [insert favorite deity here] him/herself could help. I've

[AusNOG] TPP wholesale - urgent

2017-10-23 Thread Luke Fong
Hi guys, I have a customer with Uber/ TPP wholesale who is having a major issue. If there is anyone on list that could assist, please reach out offlist. Cheers L Kind Regards, Luke Fong Chief Executive Officer Lateral Plains Pty Ltd PO Box 549 Ballarat ,Vic 3353 Tel : 03