Do you have netflix? Are you affected?
You're a customer and you have access to ACCC to get some buttock prodded ;-).

I think the suggestion was involving that route in addition to your activities in the back end rather than instead of.

On 23/08/2021 9:50 am, Matthew Enger wrote:

Further to this, you end up with the other extreme, a customer believes Netflix (who are saying it is us) and then lodge a TIO complaint and we cannot fix it. So we get TIO fees for something which is not our fault and which we have been trying to fix.

The customer just ends up upset as ultimately the party who needs to fix it are not responding and pointing fingers elsewhere.

        

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> Direct your customers to the ACCC. They are paying for a service from Netflix that they are not getting. That is illegal under Australian consumer law.

100% agree with this in principle

But the problem here is it's just so easy to move providers now. 1 online order, no setup fee, and a few hours later (sometimes minutes?) the problem probably goes away as you are on another provider with a different IP. That is easier than dealing with ACCC / Netflix / Provider, right?

Kinda drives the providers to want (and have) to fix it, before it becomes a mass exodus.

Nick

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:21 PM Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org <mailto:ma...@isc.org>> wrote:

    Direct your customers to the ACCC. They are paying for a service
    from Netflix that they are not getting. That is illegal under
    Australian consumer law.

-- Mark Andrews

    > On 22 Aug 2021, at 20:38, Jarryd Sullivan
    <jarryd.sulli...@team.aussiebroadband.com.au
    <mailto:jarryd.sulli...@team.aussiebroadband.com.au>> wrote:
    >
    > Can +1, we're in the same boat, been asked to focus on using the
    ticketing system as our ticket is with the correct team
    (geoblocking/VPN) however got 1 reply that ignored half of what we
    wrote and has been radio silence since. Furthermore, we've
    confirmed with most of the customers that they have never tried to
    use a VPN to access content they shouldn't have access to, most of
    them were quite confused. They have raised cases with Netflix
    support themselves and have been instructed to contact their ISP
    if they're being blocked.
    >
    > Jarryd Sullivan
    >
    >
    > From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
    <mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Nathan
    Brookfield <nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au
    <mailto:nathan.brookfi...@iperium.com.au>>
    > Date: Sunday, 22 August 2021 at 7:50 pm
    > To: Damian Ivereigh <d...@launtel.net.au
    <mailto:d...@launtel.net.au>>
    > Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <aus...@ausnog.net
    <mailto:aus...@ausnog.net>>
    > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Netflix Contact
    >
    > This is actually a problem internationally that everyone is
    having and pretty much being ignored :(
    > Nathan Brookfield
    > General Manager
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    > p: 1300 592 330  |  m: 0401 424 445 |
    > w: http://iperium.co/ <http://iperium.co/>
    > On 22 Aug 2021, at 19:47, Damian Ivereigh <d...@launtel.net.au
    <mailto:d...@launtel.net.au>> wrote:
    >
    > Yeah mate, we're seeing the same thing. Very frustrating. Also
    have a ticket open with them.
    >
    > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, 18:52 Matthew Enger,
    <mailto:m.en...@xi.com.au <mailto:m.en...@xi.com.au>> wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > Anyone got a Netflix contact who can help with vpn/cgnat/geo
    blocking?
    >
    > I have been emailing the peering db entry of
    mailto:geosupp...@netflix.com <mailto:geosupp...@netflix.com> who
    initially responded but then went dead.
    >
    > I have been following up regularly no reply. Created a new
    ticket, no reply to that either.
    >
    > This has been going on for a number of weeks and I know of a
    number of other providers also having similar issues so if anyone
    has a contact who can help I am sure the industry would appreciate
    it 😊
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >
    >
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