Re: [AusNOG] Deep buffer switches and CDN networks

2019-05-24 Thread Jason Leschnik
Hi Tom, Appreciate both of your comments. Perfectly timed video from Netflix too, thanks for pointing me towards it! @Paul Wilkins I think that's what confused me the most around deeper buffers. I get how they could help with burst absorption for applications which sometimes might contend with

Re: [AusNOG] Deep buffer switches and CDN networks

2019-05-24 Thread Paul Wilkins
Deep buffers of transit routers do not add bandwidth, nor do they improve your bandwidth/delay product. The only use case I've ever found for deep buffers is remote sites on low bandwidth links, where with the right QoS maps you can shunt bulk transfer traffic aside, meaning user traffic eg

Re: [AusNOG] Deep buffer switches and CDN networks

2019-05-24 Thread Tom Paseka
Timely presentation from Netflix On this exact topic. https://ripe78.ripe.net/archives/video/128/ On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 7:52 AM Tom Paseka wrote: > everything depends on your application and how you're moving traffic. > > if you lots of east-west flow (between equal speed interfaces,

Re: [AusNOG] Deep buffer switches and CDN networks

2019-05-23 Thread Tom Paseka
everything depends on your application and how you're moving traffic. if you lots of east-west flow (between equal speed interfaces, especially in many to one) you'll need buffers. If you're doing north to south traffic with interface change, you'll likely need buffers. The choice here might not

[AusNOG] Deep buffer switches and CDN networks

2019-05-22 Thread Jason Leschnik
Hi Noggers, I just finished watching the NANOG presentation of Netflix openconnect[1], I noticed that their core switch of choice was an Arista 7500E which is a deep buffer switch. I remember seeing a lot of comments around buffer bloat for deep buffer switches. Would this be considered an