Re: [1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001440]: Calling `system("-some-tool")` fails (although it is a valid `sh` command)

2021-10-30 Thread Wayne Pollock via austin-group-l at The Open Group
Is it guaranteed that on conforming systems nohup (and friends) must not accept or delete the first "--"? For the example to work, nohup must not discard the "--". But might it? Section 1.4 "Utility Description Defaults" of the Introduction states "... Default Behavior: When this section is

Re: Anyone know how XCU/fuser got into POSIX, or why?

2021-10-30 Thread steph...@chazelas.org via austin-group-l at The Open Group
On 2021-10-30 16:27, Stephane Chazelas via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote: [...] While I agree it's badly designed, it's still useful. And since lsof is rarely available, that's generally your only option for this kind of things. To clarify, I meant that lsof is rarely *installed by

Re: [1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001531]: time: follow-up to issue #1440

2021-10-30 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via austin-group-l at The Open Group
...i have omitted all those "sh -c" invocations without an expansion of command_string that could be misinterpreted. Ideally i catched them all. Ciao, and a nice weekend from Germany i wish, --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer,The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully

[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001531]: time: follow-up to issue #1440

2021-10-30 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group
The following issue has been SUBMITTED. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1531 == Reported By:steffen Assigned To:

[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001530]: nohup: follow-up to issue #1440

2021-10-30 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group
The following issue has been SUBMITTED. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1530 == Reported By:steffen Assigned To:

[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001529]: ex: follow-up to issue #1440

2021-10-30 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group
The following issue has been SUBMITTED. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1529 == Reported By:steffen Assigned To:

Re: Interpretation starting for a 30 day review (1440)

2021-10-30 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso via austin-group-l at The Open Group
Robert Elz wrote in <21180.1635554...@jinx.noi.kre.to>: |Date:Sat, 30 Oct 2021 02:23:40 +0200 |From:Steffen Nurpmeso |Message-ID: <20211030002340.gtkvv%stef...@sdaoden.eu> | || Dear Robert Elz, on the other hand || || #?127|unstable9s:$ /usr/xpg4/bin/sh -c

Re: Anyone know how XCU/fuser got into POSIX, or why?

2021-10-30 Thread Stephane Chazelas via austin-group-l at The Open Group
2021-10-30 22:01:51 +0700, Robert Elz via austin-group-l at The Open Group: > Date:Fri, 29 Oct 2021 18:13:29 -0700 > From:Alan Coopersmith > Message-ID: > > | The SVR4 implementation (inherited by Solaris & illumos) writes white > | space before each pid to

Re: Anyone know how XCU/fuser got into POSIX, or why?

2021-10-30 Thread Robert Elz via austin-group-l at The Open Group
Date:Fri, 29 Oct 2021 18:13:29 -0700 From:Alan Coopersmith Message-ID: | The SVR4 implementation (inherited by Solaris & illumos) writes white | space before each pid to stdout: Thanks, with that, and Geoff's reference to XBD 5 to justify it, this doesn't look

Re: Interpretation starting for a 30 day review (1440)

2021-10-30 Thread Stephane Chazelas via austin-group-l at The Open Group
I'll just voice my opinion on this matter: That system("-x") doesn't run "-x" is a (minor) bug. I don't think anyone would argue with that. On historic Unix systems, it's a regression introduced by a change of API of the sh utility. POSIX ended up mandating that bug (mandating that system("+c")

Re: Anyone know how XCU/fuser got into POSIX, or why?

2021-10-30 Thread Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group
Robert Elz wrote, on 30 Oct 2021: > > That spec requires stdout to be just an unseparated list of pids, > no white space, no terminating newline, just digits. No. It _allows_ stdout to be just the digits, but it also allows each pid to be surrounded by characters (see %d in XBD chapter 5). Not