Hello!
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
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|Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in
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||Harald van Dijk wrote in
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|||On 12/05/2022 23:10, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
|||> Harald
Date:Sat, 14 May 2022 03:56:32 +0700
From:"Robert Elz via austin-group-l at The Open Group"
Message-ID: <2459.1652475...@jinx.noi.kre.to>
| | Show your work.
| I no longer remember the exact command I used (cannot even locate the
| message you're quoting
Date:Fri, 13 May 2022 11:22:20 -0400
From:Chet Ramey
Message-ID:
| Show your work.
|
| I tested this on macOS 12 and RHEL 7, using interactive shells with job
| control enabled,
That is likely the difference. The question was about what happens when
job
On 5/5/22 7:46 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote:
[Robert intended to send the mail I'm replying to to the list, but it
was only sent to me. I've quoted it in full.]
Robert Elz wrote, on 05 May 2022:
This leaves just bash of the shells I have to test. bash is odd,
chet.ra...@case.edu wrote in
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|On 5/13/22 10:27 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group \
|wrote:
|> Chet Ramey wrote, on 13 May 2022:
|>> On 5/13/22 5:20 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group \
|>> wrote:
|>>> The
On 5/13/22 10:27 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote:
Chet Ramey wrote, on 13 May 2022:
On 5/13/22 5:20 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote:
The definition of "Job" is:
A set of processes, comprising a shell pipeline, and any processes
Chet Ramey wrote, on 13 May 2022:
>
> On 5/13/22 5:20 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote:
>
> > The definition of "Job" is:
> >
> > A set of processes, comprising a shell pipeline, and any processes
> > descended from it, that are all in the same process group.
On 5/13/22 5:20 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote:
You are over reaching in the way you are reading that text.
I strongly disagree.
If you have to work that hard to make your case, it's a good indication
that the existing language is wrong -- or at least
On 13/05/2022 14:28, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
You again strip content of follow-up RFCs.
In my previous message, I quoted your message that I replied to in full.
I stripped absolutely nothing and do not appreciate your utterly false
claim here. Retract it.
Harald van Dijk
On 5/12/22 10:03 AM, Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote:
The normative text relating to creation of job numbers/IDs is all
conditional on job control being enabled.
Where is that? It's not in the definition of Job ID, it's not in 2.9.3
Asynchronous Lists, it's not in the
Harald van Dijk wrote in
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|On 12/05/2022 23:10, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
|> Harald van Dijk wrote in
|> :
|>|On 12/05/2022 18:19, Steffen Nurpmeso via austin-group-l at The Open
|>|Group wrote:
|>|> Bruno Haible wrote in
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On 5/11/22 6:31 PM, Robert Elz wrote:
| For neither the first nor the last time.
Including now.
People can disagree.
| > I think they should remain independent.
| Sure, I agree.
I don't. I cannot think of a single reason why the shell should be
forced to maintain two separate
On 5/11/22 6:56 PM, Robert Elz wrote:
| Maybe. And yet I can't recall ever receiving a bug about this.
[...]
The circumstances to provoke a problem need to be contrived.
Exactly. It's a largely hypothetical scenario.
--
``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' -
Date:Fri, 13 May 2022 10:20:49 +0100
From:"Geoff Clare via austin-group-l at The Open Group"
Message-ID: <20220513092049.GB17043@localhost>
| [Robert Cc'ed this to austin-grou...@netbsd.org which presumably bounced.
| I'm taking that as indication that he
[Robert Cc'ed this to austin-grou...@netbsd.org which presumably bounced.
I'm taking that as indication that he intended it to go to this list,
and am quoting it in full.]
Robert Elz wrote, on 12 May 2022:
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> | The standard needs to specify them separately because, as per the
> | mail I just
On 12/05/2022 23:10, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
Harald van Dijk wrote in
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|On 12/05/2022 18:19, Steffen Nurpmeso via austin-group-l at The Open
|Group wrote:
|> Bruno Haible wrote in
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|>|Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
|>|> ...
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