[1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2 0001117]: Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V

2019-10-30 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker


The following issue has a resolution that has been APPLIED. 
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http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1117 
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Reported By:geoffclare
Assigned To:
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Project:1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1117
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Clarification Requested
Severity:   Comment
Priority:   normal
Status: Applied
Name:   Geoff Clare 
Organization:   The Open Group 
User Reference:  
Section:command 
Page Number:2596 
Line Number:84278, 84294 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text:See Desired Action 
Resolution: Accepted
Fixed in Version:   
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Date Submitted: 2017-01-20 10:03 UTC
Last Modified:  2019-10-30 10:51 UTC
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Summary:Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V
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Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare New Issue
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Name  => Geoff Clare 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Organization  => The Open Group  
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Section   => command 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Page Number   => 2596
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Line Number   => 84278, 84294
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Interp Status => --- 
2018-06-29 18:42 kreNote Added: 0004048  
2018-06-30 09:31 geoffclare Note Added: 0004049  
2018-06-30 09:32 geoffclare Note Edited: 0004049 
2018-07-19 16:12 nick   Final Accepted Text   => See Desired Action
2018-07-19 16:12 nick   Status   New => Resolved 
2018-07-19 16:12 nick   Resolution   Open => Accepted
2018-07-19 16:12 nick   Tag Attached: tc3-2008   
2019-10-30 10:51 geoffclare Status   Resolved => Applied 
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[1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2 0001117]: Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V

2018-07-19 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker


The following issue has been RESOLVED. 
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http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1117 
== 
Reported By:geoffclare
Assigned To:
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Project:1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1117
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Clarification Requested
Severity:   Comment
Priority:   normal
Status: Resolved
Name:   Geoff Clare 
Organization:   The Open Group 
User Reference:  
Section:command 
Page Number:2596 
Line Number:84278, 84294 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text:See Desired Action 
Resolution: Accepted
Fixed in Version:   
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Date Submitted: 2017-01-20 10:03 UTC
Last Modified:  2018-07-19 16:12 UTC
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Summary:Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V
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Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare New Issue
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Name  => Geoff Clare 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Organization  => The Open Group  
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Section   => command 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Page Number   => 2596
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Line Number   => 84278, 84294
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Interp Status => --- 
2018-06-29 18:42 kreNote Added: 0004048  
2018-06-30 09:31 geoffclare Note Added: 0004049  
2018-06-30 09:32 geoffclare Note Edited: 0004049 
2018-07-19 16:12 nick   Final Accepted Text   => See Desired Action
2018-07-19 16:12 nick   Status   New => Resolved 
2018-07-19 16:12 nick   Resolution   Open => Accepted
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[1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2 0001117]: Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V

2018-06-30 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1117 
== 
Reported By:geoffclare
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1117
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Clarification Requested
Severity:   Comment
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Geoff Clare 
Organization:   The Open Group 
User Reference:  
Section:command 
Page Number:2596 
Line Number:84278, 84294 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
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Date Submitted: 2017-01-20 10:03 UTC
Last Modified:  2018-06-30 09:31 UTC
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Summary:Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V
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-- 
 (0004049) geoffclare (manager) - 2018-06-30 09:31
 http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1117#c4049 
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The term "implementation-provided" is already used in several other places.
 It even has an explanation in XRAT A.1.5:The term
``implementation-defined’’ implies requirements for documentation [...]
In some places the text refers to facilities supplied by the implementation
that are outside the standard as implementation-supplied or
implementation-provided. This is not
intended to imply a requirement for documentation. If it were, the term
``implementation-defined’’ would have been used.
There is already a reference to 2.9.1.1 (as quoted under Description in
this bug). 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare New Issue
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Name  => Geoff Clare 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Organization  => The Open Group  
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Section   => command 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Page Number   => 2596
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Line Number   => 84278, 84294
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Interp Status => --- 
2018-06-29 18:42 kreNote Added: 0004048  
2018-06-30 09:31 geoffclare Note Added: 0004049  
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[1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2 0001117]: Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V

2018-06-29 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1117 
== 
Reported By:geoffclare
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1117
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Clarification Requested
Severity:   Comment
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Geoff Clare 
Organization:   The Open Group 
User Reference:  
Section:command 
Page Number:2596 
Line Number:84278, 84294 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2017-01-20 10:03 UTC
Last Modified:  2018-06-29 18:42 UTC
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Summary:Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V
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-- 
 (0004048) kre (reporter) - 2018-06-29 18:42
 http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1117#c4048 
-- 
Why  not clean up the language as well (make it easier
to understand rather than including invented hyphenated words),
and make it say:

and any functions provided by the implementation which are
found using the PATH variable

(and add a reference to section 2.9.1.1 so the "found using the
PATH variable" can be understood.) 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare New Issue
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Name  => Geoff Clare 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Organization  => The Open Group  
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Section   => command 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Page Number   => 2596
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Line Number   => 84278, 84294
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Interp Status => --- 
2018-06-29 18:42 kreNote Added: 0004048  
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[1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2 0001117]: Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V

2017-01-20 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker

The following issue has been SUBMITTED. 
== 
http://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1117 
== 
Reported By:geoffclare
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1117
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Clarification Requested
Severity:   Comment
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Geoff Clare 
Organization:   The Open Group 
User Reference:  
Section:command 
Page Number:2596 
Line Number:84278, 84294 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
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Date Submitted: 2017-01-20 10:03 UTC
Last Modified:  2017-01-20 10:03 UTC
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Summary:Use of "implementation-defined" in command -v / -V
Description: 
The -v and -V options for "command" include the text "and any
implementation-defined functions that are found using the PATH
variable (as described in Section 2.9.1.1, on page 2367)".

I suspect this is intended just to mean "functions defined by the
implementation", but by using the defined term "implementation-defined"
the text introduces a documentation requirement.  This is not the
appropriate place to make such a requirement - if we want the functions
found by PATH to be documented, 2.9.1.1 is the place to require it,
not here.

Desired Action: 
For both -v and -V, change:

and any implementation-defined functions that are found using the PATH
variable

to:

and any implementation-provided functions that are found using the PATH
variable

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Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare New Issue
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Name  => Geoff Clare 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Organization  => The Open Group  
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Section   => command 
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Page Number   => 2596
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Line Number   => 84278, 84294
2017-01-20 10:03 geoffclare Interp Status => --- 
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