[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001368]: Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples.
The following issue has a resolution that has been APPLIED. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368 == Reported By:steffen Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1368 Category: Shell and Utilities Type: Enhancement Request Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: Applied Name: Steffen Nurpmeso Organization: User Reference: Section:Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch Page Number:2479, 2523 Line Number:79636 ff., 81458 ff. Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text:https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 Resolution: Accepted As Marked Fixed in Version: == Date Submitted: 2020-07-08 23:10 UTC Last Modified: 2021-01-29 11:32 UTC == Summary:Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples. == Relationships ID Summary -- related to 0001367 mailx: add -E option to discard (not se... == Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenNew Issue 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenName => Steffen Nurpmeso 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenSection => Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenPage Number => 2479, 2523 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenLine Number => 79636 ff., 81458 ff. 2020-07-09 08:02 geoffclare Relationship added related to 0001367 2020-12-14 16:43 rhansenNote Added: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:44 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:46 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:47 rhansenTag Attached: issue8 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenInterp Status => --- 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenFinal Accepted Text => https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenStatus New => Resolved 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenResolution Open => Accepted As Marked 2021-01-14 16:43 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2021-01-14 16:46 rhansenNote Added: 0005201 2021-01-29 11:32 geoffclare Status Resolved => Applied ==
Re: [1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001368]: Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples.
Date:Thu, 14 Jan 2021 13:39:29 -0500 From:Richard Hansen Message-ID: <873368db-6447-6f90-be5d-65037e06b...@rhansen.org> | The accepted text has been updated to address your comments. | Please let us know if we missed anything. Looks fine now. Thanks. | Closing a bug doesn't mean that the "final accepted text" is actually | final, only that we think the issue has been sufficiently addressed. That problem was corrected already, and the issues now have note boxes in which comments can be made - the point was just that doing it via e-mail rather than adding a note means you have to do things like note 5201, which is meaningless extra work, both for you, and for people who later try to work out what has happened and why, who no longer find all the information in one convenient place. kre
Re: [1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001368]: Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples.
On 2020-12-14 19:11, Robert Elz via austin-group-l at The Open Group wrote: > Another issue where new text with a proposed resolution is posted > to the bug, and the bug is then closed within minutes, preventing > any further (in bug report) discussion. > > People, please stop doing this - if a new note is added with a proposed > resolution (other than "apply the text in note NNN" perhaps) then leave > the issue open, for at least a week, before closing it (assuming there > are no more substantive comments). The accepted text has been updated to address your comments. Please let us know if we missed anything. Closing a bug doesn't mean that the "final accepted text" is actually final, only that we think the issue has been sufficiently addressed. We will revise the accepted text if a valid concern is raised. -Richard
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001368]: Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples.
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368 == Reported By:steffen Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1368 Category: Shell and Utilities Type: Enhancement Request Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: Resolved Name: Steffen Nurpmeso Organization: User Reference: Section:Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch Page Number:2479, 2523 Line Number:79636 ff., 81458 ff. Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text:https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 Resolution: Accepted As Marked Fixed in Version: == Date Submitted: 2020-07-08 23:10 UTC Last Modified: 2021-01-14 16:46 UTC == Summary:Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples. == Relationships ID Summary -- related to 0001367 mailx: add -E option to discard (not se... == -- (0005201) rhansen (manager) - 2021-01-14 16:46 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5201 -- https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 was updated to address feedback sent to the mailing list: https://www.mail-archive.com/austin-group-l@opengroup.org/msg07304.html Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenNew Issue 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenName => Steffen Nurpmeso 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenSection => Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenPage Number => 2479, 2523 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenLine Number => 79636 ff., 81458 ff. 2020-07-09 08:02 geoffclare Relationship added related to 0001367 2020-12-14 16:43 rhansenNote Added: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:44 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:46 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:47 rhansenTag Attached: issue8 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenInterp Status => --- 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenFinal Accepted Text => https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenStatus New => Resolved 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenResolution Open => Accepted As Marked 2021-01-14 16:43 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2021-01-14 16:46 rhansenNote Added: 0005201 ==
Re: [1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001368]: Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples.
Another issue where new text with a proposed resolution is posted to the bug, and the bug is then closed within minutes, preventing any further (in bug report) discussion. People, please stop doing this - if a new note is added with a proposed resolution (other than "apply the text in note NNN" perhaps) then leave the issue open, for at least a week, before closing it (assuming there are no more substantive comments). In this one, while the example 3 being added (both of them) will work, it is (or they are, this applies to both) (or seems to me to be) more complicated than it needs to be. That is: at now + 1 hour <&1 run-batch-processing 2>&1 >&3 \ | mailx -E -s "errors during batch processing" mygroup } | mailx -s "batch processing output" mygroup EOF could be written as at now + 1 hour <&1 | mailx -E -s "errors during batch processing" mygroup couldn't it? Note there are two changes ... splitting the order in which the stdout and stderr pipes are done, so that natural fd ordering is preserved, and hacks using duplication onto another fd aren't required (in some cases, though probably not usefully here, it also means that any errors during the normal stdout mail processing are also included in the stderr mail) and second, avoiding use of the backslash-newline combination for line joining when there's not really any good reason to do it that way (the change in indentation is superficial, a result of my re-typing, and irrelevant). Since 3 is a new example, it can hardly be needed to demonstrate a use of duplicating onto another fd (ie: explicitly to show how to do that) or an example using that technique would have been there already (and it would be one where it really is needed, otherwise all people do is ask "why that way?") If the intent of the complicated processing is to avoid the "empty message body, hope that's OK?" or whatever message it is from mailx from the stdout mail being sent in the error mail (and perhaps only that), then at now + 1 hour <&1 | mailx -E -s "errors during batch processing" mygroup would avoid that happening, in a harmless way, and what's more demonstrates the one and only truly safe use of "echo". kre
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001368]: Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples.
The following issue has been RESOLVED. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368 == Reported By:steffen Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1368 Category: Shell and Utilities Type: Enhancement Request Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: Resolved Name: Steffen Nurpmeso Organization: User Reference: Section:Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch Page Number:2479, 2523 Line Number:79636 ff., 81458 ff. Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text:https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 Resolution: Accepted As Marked Fixed in Version: == Date Submitted: 2020-07-08 23:10 UTC Last Modified: 2020-12-14 16:48 UTC == Summary:Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples. == Relationships ID Summary -- related to 0001367 mailx: add -E option to discard (not se... == Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenNew Issue 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenName => Steffen Nurpmeso 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenSection => Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenPage Number => 2479, 2523 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenLine Number => 79636 ff., 81458 ff. 2020-07-09 08:02 geoffclare Relationship added related to 0001367 2020-12-14 16:43 rhansenNote Added: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:44 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:46 rhansenNote Edited: 0005168 2020-12-14 16:47 rhansenTag Attached: issue8 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenInterp Status => --- 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenFinal Accepted Text => https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenStatus New => Resolved 2020-12-14 16:48 rhansenResolution Open => Accepted As Marked ==
[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001368]: Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples.
A NOTE has been added to this issue. == https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368 == Reported By:steffen Assigned To: == Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 Issue ID: 1368 Category: Shell and Utilities Type: Enhancement Request Severity: Editorial Priority: normal Status: New Name: Steffen Nurpmeso Organization: User Reference: Section:Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch Page Number:2479, 2523 Line Number:79636 ff., 81458 ff. Interp Status: --- Final Accepted Text: == Date Submitted: 2020-07-08 23:10 UTC Last Modified: 2020-12-14 16:43 UTC == Summary:Unworldly use of redirection and mailx(1) in at(1) and batch(1) examples. == Relationships ID Summary -- related to 0001367 mailx: add -E option to discard (not se... == -- (0005168) rhansen (manager) - 2020-12-14 16:43 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1368#c5168 -- On page 2479 lines 79638-79640 (XCU at EXAMPLES) change:at now + 1 hour <&1 >outfile | mailx mygroup !to:at now + 1 hour <&1 >outfile | mailx -s "outfile update" mygroup EOFNote that this always sends mail when there has been an attempt to update outfile and the body of the message will be empty unless an error occurred. 3. The following shows how to capture both standard error and standard output:at now + 1 hour <&1 run-batch-processing 2>&1 >&3 | mailx -E -s "errors during batch processing" mygroup } | mailx -s "batch processing output" mygroup EOFand renumber the later examples. On page 2523 lines 81460-81462 (XCU batch EXAMPLES) change:batch <&1 >outfile | mailx mygroup !to:batch <&1 >outfile | mailx -s "outfile update" mygroup EOFNote that this always sends mail when there has been an attempt to update outfile and the body of the message will be empty unless an error occurred. 3. The following shows how to capture both standard error and standard output:batch <&1 run-batch-processing 2>&1 >&3 | mailx -E -s "errors during batch processing" mygroup } | mailx -s "batch processing output" mygroup EOF Issue History Date ModifiedUsername FieldChange == 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenNew Issue 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenName => Steffen Nurpmeso 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenSection => Vol. 3: Shell and Utilities, at, batch 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenPage Number => 2479, 2523 2020-07-08 23:10 steffenLine Number => 79636 ff., 81458 ff. 2020-07-09 08:02 geoffclare Relationship added related to 0001367 2020-12-14 16:43 rhansenNote Added: 0005168 ==
