[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-03-02 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


The following issue has been CLOSED. 
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https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
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Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
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Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: Closed
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
Resolution: Withdrawn
Fixed in Version:   
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Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-03-03 06:16 UTC
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Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
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Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
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 (0005730) Don Cragun (manager) - 2022-03-03 06:16
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5730 
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Withdrawn as requested by the submitter at the end of
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5596. 

Issue History 
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2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587  
2022-01-10 15:56 geoffclare Note Added: 0005588  
2022-01-10 21:34 stephane   Note Added: 0005589  
2022-01-10 22:22 calestyo   Note Added: 0005590  
2022-01-10 23:47 philip-guentherNote Added: 0005591  
2022-01-11 00:24 calestyo   Note Added: 0005593  
2022-01-11 04:19 philip-guentherNote Added: 0005595  
2022-01-11 05:48 calestyo   Note Added: 0005596  
2022-03-03 06:16 Don Cragun Interp Status => --- 
2022-03-03 06:16 Don Cragun Note Added: 0005730  
2022-03-03 06:16 Don Cragun Status   New => Closed   
2022-03-03 06:16 Don Cragun Resolution   Open => Withdrawn   
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[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
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Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
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Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-11 05:48 UTC
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Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
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Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
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 (0005596) calestyo (reporter) - 2022-01-11 05:48
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5596 
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One could of course define a '-P' to refer to exactly the behaviour as of
Perl version x.y.z or some PCRE version, but even if one would do that,
implementations would likely just continue to link e.g. libpcre (in it's
respectively available version).

One could also argue, that hopefully neither Perl nor PCRE, changes their
RE languages in a way that would be backwards incompatible, or at least not
in places where this would have any big effect.


Take Web standards... sure you can refer to some specific HTML or DOM
version, but what's done in the "real world" is (unfortunately) often far
beyond that.


Isn't that a bit nitpicking if one says it's okay for an implementation to
change explicitly undefined behaviour to it's needs (and still being
compliant) while not being allowed to use undefined options in order to be
compliant?

In both cases the problem is, that POSIX couldn't really change it anymore,
without either no one adhering to it or breaking things.
It couldn't give "\+" in BRE's some other meaning (because it kinda
"promised" no to do this), nor could it use GNU grep's -P for something
completely else without likely being ignored.

So its fate is to be frozen, whenever something was already used in some
way by some major implementation.
At best, it could just follow what's already done by some big player,
hopefully not breaking anything else.


And that's where at least in my personal opinion it's better for the sake
of portability to "reserve" something for a certain purpose, to make at
least sure that no one uses e.g. -P for something completely different.
Cause that would break portability for sure, while if one says something
like "if a -P option is supported, than Perl-like regular expressions shall
be used", chances are in reality still quite good, that thing will just
work.

Even if one says explicitly that "-P, if supported, shall cause Perl 5.32.1
REs to be use", and applications wouldn't just adhere to that and simply
use the current PCRE version, it would be IMO still better to have that,
than one of them choosing to use -P for (P)printing debug information.


Anyway,... my main point here was -E, and I have no strong opinion on
whether or not -P should be handled in some way by POSIX... I just wanted
to throw the idea into the room for discussion.
So from my side we can simply close the ticket. 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587

[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-11 04:19 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
==
Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
== 

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 (0005595) philip-guenther (reporter) - 2022-01-11 04:19
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5595 
-- 
The standard can and does refer to other standards, using their *stable*
identifiers.  For example, Geoff's been spending a lot of time working out
the details of updating the reference to the C standard to by C17.  If an
application compiles in the environment of the current POSIX standard and
following its rules they get the version of C associated with that
version.

So, if there's a stable standard for the behavior of PCRE, then sure, POSIX
could cite that and specify that grep/sed -P follow the behavior specified
there.  That would let applications authors request a precise behavior and
if they didn't get it it would be a defect in the implementation, not their
application.

But you're explicitly denying the existence of a stable standard,
"PCRE-2021", or maybe denying an interest in having applications adhere to
such a thing if it does exist.  How is an application author supposed to
use or rely on that information?  How is an implementation team supposed to
know whether their particular version is "good enough" to abide?

"So, there might be a -P option, and if it exists, it will presumably
change the behavior of the regexp, but we can't tell you exactly how as
that depends on what some 3rd party group decides.  Well, two different 3rd
party groups, because perl != PCRE and we don't say which.  And yeah, an
unmatched open-brace matched a literal open brace for 20+ years and then it
became an error in some places, and then later more places, but not all,
don't worry.  Well, except for the other changes in behavior."


The situation with BREs is that the behavior of the extensions is
explicitly undefined per XBD 9.3.2 "BRE Ordinary Characters" and
applications using them are not POSIX conformant; implementations can make
them do whatever they want and there's no statement that they are reserved
for the use that any particular tool has assigned.

That's actually exactly the situation currently for the -P option to sed or
grep: the behavior of sed or grep with that option is not defined by the
standard and any application using that with them is not POSIX conformant;
implementations can (and do!) make use of that to do what you desire.



The goal of POSIX is "to support applications portability".  How does
'reserving' -P for behavior that is not specified and *expected* to change
support application portability?  Do you not trust everyone involved to say
"no, hell no" if POSIX contributors were to lose touch with the deployed
environment and randomly specify sed/grep -P for some completely unrelated
purpose? 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 

[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-11 00:24 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
==
Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
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 (0005593) calestyo (reporter) - 2022-01-11 00:24
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5593 
-- 
Well isn't that common practice in standards to not fully describe
everything and refer to some other place?
E.g. anyone using things like \u would refer to Unicode, which by
itself is a evolving standard.

The only difference here would be that there is no single standard. As for
Perl RE's the standard is likely "whatever the current version of Perl
does" (and perlre(1) rather just describing that).
And PCRE is very but not absolutely similar to that. Again not so much
different to what we have e.g. with BREs, which e.g GNU extends.


The concern is rather that *implementations* might assign -P to something
completely different (or use something else for the same effect, i.e. using
PCRE), thus causing unnecessary portability issues.
See e.g. GNU's grep, which assigned several one-letter options for some use
beyond what POSIX specifies. 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
== 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587  
2022-01-10 15:56 geoffclare Note Added: 0005588  
2022-01-10 21:34 stephane   Note Added: 0005589  
2022-01-10 22:22 calestyo   Note Added: 0005590  
2022-01-10 23:47 philip-guentherNote Added: 0005591  
2022-01-11 00:24 calestyo   Note Added: 0005593  
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[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-10 23:47 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
==
Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
== 

-- 
 (0005591) philip-guenther (reporter) - 2022-01-10 23:47
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5591 
-- 
I'm not sure I understand how "reserved for use to provide a behavior that
is itself not completely specified" logically makes sense.  The term 'PCRE'
would have to be defined by some stable reference, or else anyone can just
say "oh, I comply with _a_ version of PCRE" and there's nothing *in posix*
that someone could say they are non-compliant with.

If the concern is just that some future version of POSIX might specific a
-P option that has some totally unrelated effect, well, I think that's
solved/prevented by the on-going participation of community members in the
POSIX revision/review process.  "Don't do something stupid in the future"
isn't actually implementable: we are not always wiser than our successors
and they have the power to make their own decisions about what is wise,
rescinding our choices now. 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587  
2022-01-10 15:56 geoffclare Note Added: 0005588  
2022-01-10 21:34 stephane   Note Added: 0005589  
2022-01-10 22:22 calestyo   Note Added: 0005590  
2022-01-10 23:47 philip-guentherNote Added: 0005591  
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[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-10 22:22 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
==
Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
== 

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 (0005590) calestyo (reporter) - 2022-01-10 22:22
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5590 
-- 
I thought PCRE in GNU sed was rather kinda rejected... (see [0] and [1])

But if at all, I would rather just "reserve" and option for Perl/PCRE like
regular expressions, so that vendors don't use -P for something completely
else.
And not define exactly how these work or which implementations is should
be.

Maybe one could name it "Perl-like" or similar, so that one neither clearly
mandates them to be 100% Perl compatible, nor 100% PCRE compatible.



[0] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/sed-devel/2017-11/msg1.html
[1] https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=22801 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
== 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587  
2022-01-10 15:56 geoffclare Note Added: 0005588  
2022-01-10 21:34 stephane   Note Added: 0005589  
2022-01-10 22:22 calestyo   Note Added: 0005590  
==




[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-10 21:34 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
==
Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
== 

-- 
 (0005589) stephane (reporter) - 2022-01-10 21:34
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5589 
-- 
Re: https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5587

In ast-open's sed (which is also the sed builtin of ksh93 if enabled at
compile time), sed -P enables perl-like regexps, but not via PCRE (only a
subset is implemented and there are some incompatibilities). In any case,
PCRE like perl's regexps is still a moving target (even though probably a
lot less so these days).

In ssed (which could be considered as the devel version of GNU sed when it
was still actively maintained), sed -R enabled PCRE matching (this time via
PCRE).

I would welcome sed -P to use perl-like regexp, considering that perl-like
regexps have become the new de-facto standard for regexps, but maybe POSIX
is not the place where those regexps should be specified. 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
== 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587  
2022-01-10 15:56 geoffclare Note Added: 0005588  
2022-01-10 21:34 stephane   Note Added: 0005589  
==




[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-10 15:56 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
==
Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
== 

-- 
 (0005588) geoffclare (manager) - 2022-01-10 15:56
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5588 
-- 
> Are these somewhere publicly available?

Not publicly, but the barrier is quite low. You just need to have an Open
Group account and subscribe to the austin-group-l mailing list. Then the
drafts should be available from:

https://www.opengroup.org/austin/login.html 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
== 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587  
2022-01-10 15:56 geoffclare Note Added: 0005588  
==




[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-10 15:19 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
==
Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
== 

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 (0005587) calestyo (reporter) - 2022-01-10 15:19
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5587 
-- 
Oh thanks for the information and sorry for not knowing it. Are these
somewhere publicly available?

Other than that:

I'd either simply close this bug now, or "re-dedicate" it to "reservere"
the option "-P", in the same sense, i.e. *if* it is used, than it should
switch to PCRE.

Whether or not this makes sense, is another question ;-) 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
== 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
2022-01-10 15:19 calestyo   Note Added: 0005587  
==




[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


The following issue has been set as DUPLICATE OF issue 528. 
== 
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
== 
Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
== 
Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
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Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-10 09:19 UTC
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Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
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Relationships   ID  Summary
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duplicate of528 Support extended regular expressions (E...
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Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Relationship added   duplicate of 528
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[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-10 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


A NOTE has been added to this issue. 
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https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
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Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
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Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
== 
Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-10 09:19 UTC
== 
Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
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-- 
 (0005583) geoffclare (manager) - 2022-01-10 09:19
 https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545#c5583 
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The -E option has already been added in the Issue 8 drafts.

This bug should be closed as a duplicate of bug
https://austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=528. 

Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
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2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
2022-01-10 09:19 geoffclare Note Added: 0005583  
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[1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2 0001545]: sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for use of EREs

2022-01-07 Thread Austin Group Bug Tracker via austin-group-l at The Open Group


The following issue has been SUBMITTED. 
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https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1545 
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Reported By:calestyo
Assigned To:
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Project:1003.1(2016/18)/Issue7+TC2
Issue ID:   1545
Category:   Shell and Utilities
Type:   Enhancement Request
Severity:   Editorial
Priority:   normal
Status: New
Name:   Christoph Anton Mitterer 
Organization:
User Reference:  
Section:sed utility 
Page Number:N/A 
Line Number:NA/ 
Interp Status:  --- 
Final Accepted Text: 
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Date Submitted: 2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
Last Modified:  2022-01-08 03:22 UTC
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Summary:sed: standardise or at least reserve -E with sed for
use of EREs
Description: 
As of now:
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/sed.html
doesn’t specify a mode where EREs are used instead of BREs.

For some major implementation this is however supported, a quick check
revealed at lest GNU, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and busybox.

Desired Action: 
I think POSIX should at least reserve sed's "-E" option (allowing
implementations to support ERE's with sed im some way)... or standardise
the use of EREs with sed.
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Issue History 
Date ModifiedUsername   FieldChange   
== 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   New Issue
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Name  => Christoph Anton
Mitterer
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Section   => sed utility 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Page Number   => N/A 
2022-01-08 03:22 calestyo   Line Number   => NA/ 
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