Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-18 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Akim Demaille wrote: | How about merging AC_PROG_CPP and AC_PROG_CC together? | | What's the point of keeping the two of them? | * Some tools (eg. imake) apply cpp as macro-processor, even if cc is | not available on a particular installation. Other tools might want |

Dropping CPP for AC_CHECK tests? (Was: CPP determined incorrectly)

2001-06-14 Thread Akim Demaille
Pavel == Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pavel This brings an interesting idea. How about AC_LANG(none)? In Pavel this mode any checks involving compilers will be Pavel disallowed. AC_PROG_CPP will default to cpp in $PATH with Pavel /lib/cpp being the fallback. I have another question

Re: Dropping CPP for AC_CHECK tests? (Was: CPP determined incorrectly)

2001-06-14 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Akim! My feeling is that CPP, here, was used only for performance issues. Yes, this was my point. The whole idea of dealing with preprocessor was to speed up checks for tests, _not_ to find CPP that the user should run directly. However, it was abused later. Header checks were used to

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-14 Thread Akim Demaille
Pavel == Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about merging AC_PROG_CPP and AC_PROG_CC together? What's the point of keeping the two of them? Pavel My concern is compatibility. There is no real reason to test Pavel for one but not the other, but if we go ahead and merge those Pavel

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-14 Thread Akim Demaille
| How about merging AC_PROG_CPP and AC_PROG_CC together? | | What's the point of keeping the two of them? | * Some tools (eg. imake) apply cpp as macro-processor, even if cc is | not available on a particular installation. Other tools might want | to apply these tools even if

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-14 Thread Akim Demaille
Ralf == Ralf Corsepius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ralf This thought however raises another question: Why does Ralf AC_PROG_CPP exist at all? Ralf I would assume: * Some autoconf-users wanted to use CPP without Ralf CC (I have even seen cases were a host's native cpp have been Ralf applied to

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-14 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Akim! Pavel If you feel that you can handle it feel free to merge. It Pavel should be done earlier or later anyways. So you share my opinion? I share your opinion that AC_PROG_CPP and AC_PROG_CC should be merged eventually. Whether it should be done before Autoconf-2.51 is another

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Pavel Roskin wrote: Hello, Ralf! Hi Pavel, How about merging AC_PROG_CPP and AC_PROG_CC together? What's the point of keeping the two of them? * Some tools (eg. imake) apply cpp as macro-processor, even if cc is not available on a particular installation. Other

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-13 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Ralf! [I'm dropping [EMAIL PROTECTED] since the discussion concentrates on Autoconf.] Testing the preprocessor without testing for a working compiler is reasonable, but in many cases $CC -E is preferred over /lib/cpp, so it's a good idea to test for the compiler anyways. Hmm, my

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-12 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Ralf! How about merging AC_PROG_CPP and AC_PROG_CC together? What's the point of keeping the two of them? * Some tools (eg. imake) apply cpp as macro-processor, even if cc is not available on a particular installation. Other tools might want to apply these tools

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-11 Thread Akim Demaille
Pavel == Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pavel I have noticed Automake testsuite failures in distname.test, Pavel subobj5.test and subobj6.test on OpenBSD 2.7 with the CVS head Pavel versions of Autoconf and Automake. What's the status of this issue, Pavel?

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-11 Thread Akim Demaille
Harlan == Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harlan This sounds familiar to me - I think I ran in to the same Harlan problem under FreeBSD on a configure.in script that only Harlan wanted to find the X directories (header and libs). I had to Harlan specify AC_PROG_CC to solve the problem.

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-11 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hi, Akim! Pavel I have noticed Automake testsuite failures in distname.test, Pavel subobj5.test and subobj6.test on OpenBSD 2.7 with the CVS head Pavel versions of Autoconf and Automake. What's the status of this issue, Pavel? Nothing has changed. The problem persists. There is a useful

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-06-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Akim Demaille wrote: Harlan == Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harlan This sounds familiar to me - I think I ran in to the same Harlan problem under FreeBSD on a configure.in script that only Harlan wanted to find the X directories (header and libs). I had to Harlan specify

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-05-23 Thread Tom Tromey
Pavel == Pavel Roskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pavel I don't know whether Autoconf should be more robust or Automake Pavel should take less (or more?) hackerish approach. Probably the former. Pavel Since Autoconf-2.50 has been released, it would be fair to drop Pavel support for

CPP determined incorrectly

2001-05-23 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello! First of all, sorry for cross-posting, but as you will see it's hard to decide whether Automake or Autoconf is guilty. I have noticed Automake testsuite failures in distname.test, subobj5.test and subobj6.test on OpenBSD 2.7 with the CVS head versions of Autoconf and Automake. It turns

Re: CPP determined incorrectly

2001-05-23 Thread Harlan Stenn
This sounds familiar to me - I think I ran in to the same problem under FreeBSD on a configure.in script that only wanted to find the X directories (header and libs). I had to specify AC_PROG_CC to solve the problem. H