Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/15/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 October 2012 08:46:57 Paul Wise wrote: So, Debian is in the process of bringing up our upcoming arm64 port. Unfortunately we are also coming across lots of packages with rather outdated config.guess and config.sub files (see links

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Thomas Petazzoni
Hello, On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:53:44 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, Gentoo fixed this for every package in our tree like 9 years ago (we added a common function like 11 years ago that ebuilds could call manually, but we found that didn't scale). when you run a standard autoconf script, we

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 15 May 2013 09:54:08 Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 05/15/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 October 2012 08:46:57 Paul Wise wrote: So, Debian is in the process of bringing up our upcoming arm64 port. Unfortunately we are also coming across lots of packages with rather

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/15/2013 06:13 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 15 May 2013 09:54:08 Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 05/15/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 October 2012 08:46:57 Paul Wise wrote: So, Debian is in the process of bringing up our upcoming arm64 port. Unfortunately we are

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 15 May 2013 12:26:46 Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 05/15/2013 06:13 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 15 May 2013 09:54:08 Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 05/15/2013 05:53 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 08 October 2012 08:46:57 Paul Wise wrote: So, Debian is in the process of

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Petazzoni thomas.petazz...@free-electrons.com writes: On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:53:44 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, Gentoo fixed this for every package in our tree like 9 years ago (we added a common function like 11 years ago that ebuilds could call manually, but we found that didn't

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Warren Young
On 5/15/2013 11:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: i understand the point you're making. however, ~10 years of building from source in Gentoo and doing this for every single build has shown that in practice, it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant *for* *Gentoo*. Not all autoconfiscated source trees are

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 15 May 2013 15:25:31 Warren Young wrote: On 5/15/2013 11:20, Mike Frysinger wrote: i understand the point you're making. however, ~10 years of building from source in Gentoo and doing this for every single build has shown that in practice, it's irrelevant. It's irrelevant

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org writes: if Gentoo blowing away your rinky dinky config.sub hack breaks your project, then take it as a sign that You're Doing It Wrong :). I think this may be one of those historical momentum things. As INN maintainer, I used to carry local patches to

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Wookey
+++ Thomas Petazzoni [2013-05-15 16:30 +0200]: Hello, On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:53:44 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, Gentoo fixed this for every package in our tree like 9 years ago (we added a common function like 11 years ago that ebuilds could call manually, but we found that didn't

Re: [RFC] getting rid of the config.guess/sub problem when bootstrapping new ports/systems

2013-05-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 16:30 +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote: On Tue, 14 May 2013 23:53:44 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: yes, Gentoo fixed this for every package in our tree like 9 years ago FWIW, we do the same thing in Buildroot Yes, it is a very common hack in all of the distros. It would be