Re: [Fakeroot PATCH] Use transformed library name while testing.

2008-12-10 Thread Akim Demaille
Le 9 déc. 08 à 23:57, Clint Adams a écrit : [For the automake guys, the question is whether it's possible to have a computed name for a (libtool) library.] On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 10:44:44PM +0100, Akim Demaille wrote: I have written this because that's how it appears in the script

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Ralf Wildenhues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tom, * Tom Browder wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:38:53AM CET: Is it legal to use the += operator in lieu of \ when listing members of a variable in Makefile.am's? Yes. In this case, an Automake extension

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Tom Browder wrote: * Tom Browder wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:38:53AM CET: Is it legal to use the += operator in lieu of \ when listing members of a variable in Makefile.am's? Yes. In this case, an Automake extension over portable make syntax, i.e., automake will

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread NightStrike
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Ralf Wildenhues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Tom, * Tom Browder wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:38:53AM CET: Is it legal to use the += operator in lieu of \ when listing members of a variable in Makefile.am's? Yes. In this case, an Automake extension

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Wednesday 2008-12-10 16:04, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Tom Browder wrote: * Tom Browder wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:38:53AM CET: Is it legal to use the += operator in lieu of \ when listing members of a variable in Makefile.am's? Yes. In this case, an Automake

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, NightStrike wrote: If automake has the ability to flatten the += syntax so that non-portable make advances can be used, why can't the same logic apply to wildcard usage? The biggest argument against it that I've heard is that it is a GNU-only option. However, I've

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Jan Engelhardt wrote: I didn't really trust += in my own Automake makefiles since it was not really clear to me in what order the appending would occur Would it matter? Except for use of := (which I think is non-portable too), expansion of ${variables} will happen at the

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread NightStrike
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:35 AM, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, NightStrike wrote: If automake has the ability to flatten the += syntax so that non-portable make advances can be used, why can't the same logic apply to wildcard usage? The biggest argument

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, NightStrike wrote: Shouldn't the onus be on me, as the project maintainer, to accept that risk and craft the wildcards properly? I for one would wager heavily that the probability of that being a problem is FAR less than the current problems of maintaining the source file

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread NightStrike
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, NightStrike wrote: Shouldn't the onus be on me, as the project maintainer, to accept that risk and craft the wildcards properly? I for one would wager heavily that the probability of that being a

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Christopher Sean Morrison
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:39:04 +0100 From: Ralf Wildenhues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: GNU Make Extensions To: Tom Browder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: automake@gnu.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Tom, * Tom Browder wrote on Wed, Dec

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, NightStrike wrote: Ok, so again, I should be allowed to accept that *potential* risk as being far less than the current situation of *actual* risk which is causing problems. If I knew anything about Perl, I'd just do it myself, but alas, the automake source confounds me :(

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Bob, * Bob Friesenhahn wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:04:23PM CET: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Tom Browder wrote: * Tom Browder wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 01:38:53AM CET: Is it legal to use the += operator in lieu of \ when listing members of a variable in Makefile.am's? Yes. In this

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Jan Engelhardt wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:32:24PM CET: On Wednesday 2008-12-10 16:04, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: i.e., automake will flatten the += and 'make' won't ever see it. I didn't really trust += in my own Automake makefiles since it was not really clear to me in what order

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* NightStrike wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:25:58PM CET: If automake has the ability to flatten the += syntax so that non-portable make advances can be used, why can't the same logic apply to wildcard usage? The biggest argument against it that I've heard is that it is a GNU-only option.

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* NightStrike wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 04:46:28PM CET: Shouldn't the onus be on me, as the project maintainer, to accept that risk and craft the wildcards properly? I for one would wager heavily that the probability of that being a problem is FAR less than the current problems of

Re: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Russell Shaw
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, NightStrike wrote: Ok, so again, I should be allowed to accept that *potential* risk as being far less than the current situation of *actual* risk which is causing problems. If I knew anything about Perl, I'd just do it myself, but alas, the

RE: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Duft Markus
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, NightStrike wrote: Ok, so again, I should be allowed to accept that *potential* risk as being far less than the current situation of *actual* risk which is causing problems. If I knew anything about Perl, I'd just do it myself, but alas, the automake source

RE: GNU Make Extensions

2008-12-10 Thread Duft Markus
[snip] Also thinking this a little further: especially when I'm working at home on some free software, I have sometimes only half an hour or something like that to spend on developing; I *don't* want to spend this time maintaining the build mechanism!! Really: I don't want to do this.

Re: magic variables for included fragments

2008-12-10 Thread Akim Demaille
Le 4 déc. 08 à 09:38, Ralf Wildenhues a écrit : I have a silly question, but... is it really known for a fact that some Make out there do not support include if it exists? This question is not relevant to the problem. Automake requires some 'make'-provided inclusion mechanism to work,

Re: magic variables for included fragments

2008-12-10 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Akim, * Akim Demaille wrote on Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:21:50AM CET: Le 4 déc. 08 à 09:38, Ralf Wildenhues a écrit : I have a silly question, but... is it really known for a fact that some Make out there do not support include if it exists? This question is not relevant to the problem.