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Re: Automake 1.8.3 doesn't build?

2004-04-20 Thread Eric Sunshine
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:01:58 +0200, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote:
 A suggestion was to always use `SHELL = /bin/sh' in Makefiles.
 I simply don't know how correct this is, because that's how it
 was in the past before Chris Provenzano changed it to what it is
 now.  The reason for that change seems to have been lost.
 Because Chris had a cygnus email address it could be a cygwin
 singularity?  Maybe it's for systems that do not have /bin/sh?

Reverting to a state where SHELL is hard-coded as /bin/sh does indeed seem  
undesirable. As Richard Dawe points out, DJGPP would not benefit from a  
reversion to /bin/sh; and, in general, the flexibility of an Autoconf  
substitution just makes more sense.

 In automake Makefiles, most auxiliary scripts like depcomp,
 missing, etc. are run as an argument of $(SHELL).  A few are run
 directly (e.g., install-sh), go figure why.  Since all of them
 are executable, start with `#!/bin/sh', and require only basic
 shell features, I wonder why we bother running them we $(SHELL).

It is sometimes the case when transporting code between platforms that a  
script's execute status gets lost, which causes the script to fail when it is  
run directly. The $(SHELL) indirection works in all cases, regardless of  
the script's execute permission. I work on projects, for instance, which are  
developed heavily by Unix and Windows users. When Windows users create new  
scripts and commit them to a CVS repository, very often, they do not have the  
execute bit enabled. By employing the $(SHELL) indirection when running the  
scripts, we avoid what would otherwise be a fatal problem caused by the  
missing executable status. I would think that the aforementioned invocation  
of install-sh should be upgraded to also employ the $(SHELL) indirection.

 Obviously when $(SHELL) is Zsh most of these scripts will break
 with unsplit variable symptoms.  Unless we equip these scripts
 (and many Makefile rules) with the _AS_BOURNE_COMPATIBLE code.

The patch which I submitted to autoconf-patches yesterday will at least make  
it much, much less likely for zsh to be chosen.

 Regarding the aforementioned thread, I'm not really fond of the
 proposal to introduce a MAKE_SHELL variable and use
 SHELL = @MAKE_SHELL@
 because in order to access the CONFIG_SHELL variable set
 at configure time we would have to use
 CONFIG_SHELL = @SHELL@
 creating a spaghetti plate of variables definitions.

I'm not quite sure why CONFIG_SHELL is even being exported from configure.  
My understanding of CONFIG_SHELL is that it is an implementation detail of  
configure itself which should never have escaped to the outside world.  
CONFIG_SHELL is a flag used internally by configure to tell itself that it  
does not have to re-perform the preferred-shell search when it re-runs itself  
after finding a preferred shell.

 This of course assumes we know how to compute @SHELL@, which I
 don't.  If I had to vote for a definition, I'd say it would be
 useful that @SHELL@ be the most POSIX compliant shell that does
 not require any configuration code (such as
 _AS_BOURNE_COMPATIBLE) to work.

This is an interesting idea, and Paolo's generic shell testing and selection  
code in Autoconf CVS is just about able to handle this additional  
requirement. (The only hitch is that his code presently invokes  
_AS_BOURNE_COMPATIBLE when testing each candidate shell, but with a little  
re-factoring, invocation of that macro could become optional, thus making it  
possible to detect a shell which does not require it.) This raises the  
question of what constitutes a POSIX-compliant shell (at least in terms of  
what Autoconf and Automake expect), and how does one test for those features?  
The shell's split behavior is one obvious case, but what are the others  
(if any)?

 CONFIG_SHELL would allow shell that require such extra code.

I'm not sure that I see the point to this. If a POSIX-compliant shell is  
discovered which is suitable for Automake's needs, then the same shell will  
be suitable for Autoconf, so why make a distinction? It is true that Autoconf  
contains compatibility code to deal with less capable shells, and can safely  
fall back to using even very crippled shells, but I don't see the benefit of  
making a distinction between a shell suitable for Automake and one suitable  
for Autoconf.

 Note that the above definition of SHELL would be useful to
 configure itself.  For instance it currently runs things like
 ac_config_guess=$SHELL $ac_aux_dir/config.guess
 ac_config_sub=$SHELL $ac_aux_dir/config.sub
 ac_configure=$SHELL $ac_aux_dir/configure
 and I doubt these will enjoy zsh.

I am wondering if this discussion about SHELL vs. CONFIG_SHELL vs.  
MAKE_SHELL is actually obscuring a more basic issue. It is, of course, a  
reasonable idea to search out and utilize the most capable shell available,  
but, just because a search for a capable shell is performed, does not mean  
that such a shell will be found.

Therefore, 

Re: Automake 1.8.3 doesn't build?

2004-04-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
Regarding use of Zsh, is it not possible to add options to the SHELL
definition so that even if Zsh is the selected shell, it will properly
split arguments.

For example, in my Zsh manual page, I see that the -y option enables
SH_WORD_SPLIT so presumably

SHELL = /bin/zsh -y

should emulate the Bourne shell in this respect.

Bob
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Re: AMTAR brokenness

2004-04-20 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
 Paul == Paul Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

 Paul Many tar implementations have trouble with path names longer than 99
 Paul bytes.  This includes the current GNU tar official latest non-alpha
 Paul release (which is buggy in this area).  It would be reasonable to add
 Paul an automake option that checks for longer-than-99-byte file names, for
 Paul people who are worried about such things.  But I don't think it needs
 Paul to be high priority.

I've prepared this.  However I'm not really proud of the name
`filenames-99'.  Maybe someone can suggest some nicer name?

2004-04-20  Alexandre Duret-Lutz  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

For PR automake/414:
Introduce option filenames-99.
* doc/automake.texi (Options): Document it.
* configure.ac (AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE): Use it.
* lib/Automake/Options.pm (_process_option_list): Recognize it.
* automake.in (handle_dist): Set FILENAMES_99.
* lib/am/distdir.am (distdir) [FILENAMES_99]: Diagnose long
filenames.
* tests/fn99.test: New file.
* tests/Makefile.am (TESTS): Add fn99.test.

Index: NEWS
===
RCS file: /cvs/automake/automake/NEWS,v
retrieving revision 1.268
diff -u -r1.268 NEWS
--- NEWS19 Apr 2004 23:20:07 -  1.268
+++ NEWS20 Apr 2004 20:30:56 -
@@ -45,8 +45,8 @@
 * Diagnose AC_CONFIG_AUX_DIR calls following AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE. (PR/49)
 
 * Tar format can be chosen with the new options tar-v7, tar-ustar, and
-  tar-pax.
-
+  tar-pax.  The new option filenames-99 helps diagnosing filenames
+  that are too long for tar-v7.
 
 New in 1.8:
 
Index: automake.in
===
RCS file: /cvs/automake/automake/automake.in,v
retrieving revision 1.1553
diff -u -r1.1553 automake.in
--- automake.in 17 Apr 2004 18:46:05 -  1.1553
+++ automake.in 20 Apr 2004 20:31:00 -
@@ -3500,7 +3500,8 @@
 
   $output_rules .= file_contents ('distdir',
   new Automake::Location,
-  %transform);
+  %transform,
+  FILENAMES_99 = !! option 'filenames-99');
 }
 
 
Index: configure.ac
===
RCS file: /cvs/automake/automake/configure.ac,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 configure.ac
--- configure.ac10 Apr 2004 17:18:01 -  1.14
+++ configure.ac20 Apr 2004 20:31:02 -
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 # Process this file with autoconf to produce a configure script.
 
-# Copyright (C) 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003
+# Copyright (C) 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
 # Free Software Foundation, Inc.
 #
 # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
 # bothered by `missing'.
 am_AUTOCONF=${AUTOCONF-autoconf}
 
-AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([1.6 dist-bzip2])
+AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([1.6 dist-bzip2 filenames-99])
 
 # The API version is the base version.  We must guarantee
 # compatibility for all releases with the same API version.
Index: doc/automake.texi
===
RCS file: /cvs/automake/automake/doc/automake.texi,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -r1.32 automake.texi
--- doc/automake.texi   19 Apr 2004 23:20:07 -  1.32
+++ doc/automake.texi   20 Apr 2004 20:31:07 -
@@ -5812,6 +5812,16 @@
 Hook @code{dist-tarZ} to @code{dist}.
 @trindex dist-tarZ
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] @code{filenames-99}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Option, filenames-99
[EMAIL PROTECTED] filenames-99
+Abort if filenames longer than 99 characters are found during
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dist}.  Such long filenames are generally considered not to
+be portable in tarballs.  See the @code{tar-v7} and @code{tar-ustar}
+options below.  This option should be used in the top-level
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or as an argument of @code{AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE} in
[EMAIL PROTECTED], it will be ignored otherwise.
+
 @item @code{no-define}
 @cindex Option, no-define
 This options is meaningful only when passed as an argument to
@@ -5919,6 +5929,17 @@
 @item @code{tar-v7}
 @itemx @code{tar-ustar}
 @itemx @code{tar-pax}
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Option, tar-v7
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Option, tar-ustar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Option, tar-pax
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tar formats
[EMAIL PROTECTED] v7 tar format
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ustar format
[EMAIL PROTECTED] pax format
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tar-v7
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tar-ustar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tar-pax
+
 These three mutually exclusive options select the tar format to use
 when generating tarballs with @code{make dist}.  (The tar file created
 is then compressed according to the set of @code{no-dist-gzip},
@@ -5935,7 +5956,8 @@
 given longer filenames some tar implementations will diagnose the
 problem while other will generate broken tarballs or use non-portable
 extensions.  Furthermore, the 

Re: Automake 1.8.3 doesn't build?

2004-04-20 Thread Paul Eggert
Eric Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Autoconf could, for example, publish a macro such as the following:

 AS_SELECT_SHELL([features], [action-if-found], [action-if-not-found])

I like this basic idea approach (though of course it would take some
hacking).




Re: AMTAR brokenness

2004-04-20 Thread Paul Eggert
Alexandre Duret-Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've prepared this.  However I'm not really proud of the name
 `filenames-99'.  Maybe someone can suggest some nicer name?

I don't know what the rules are for Automake option spelling, but how
about filename-length-max=99?  This is because the obvious
generalization is to be able to specify whatever length you like.




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'make distcheck' fails due to Automake

2004-04-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
I am once again experiencing problems with Automake leaving behind the
distribution files it built so 'make distcheck' fails:

ERROR: files left in build directory after distclean:
./GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040419.tar.gz
./GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040419.tar.bz2
./GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040419.zip
gmake[1]: *** [distcleancheck] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/home/bfriesen/build/GraphicsMagick-8-static/GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040418/_build'

% automake --version
automake (GNU automake) 1.8.3

This is under FreeBSD 5.X.

What steps should I take to find the cause of this problem?

Bob
==
Bob Friesenhahn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: 'make distcheck' fails due to Automake

2004-04-20 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
I should mention that changing to the source directory and executing
'automake --force' seems to clear up this problem when it occurs.  It
seems that there must be an ordering problem to maintainer-mode
activities which results in the tarballs not being removed properly.

I have seen the problem three times already while using Automake
1.8.3.  I did not see it with 1.8.2 (which was used for quite a
while), but I did see it several minor releases back (don't remember
which).

Bob

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

 I am once again experiencing problems with Automake leaving behind the
 distribution files it built so 'make distcheck' fails:

 ERROR: files left in build directory after distclean:
 ./GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040419.tar.gz
 ./GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040419.tar.bz2
 ./GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040419.zip
 gmake[1]: *** [distcleancheck] Error 1
 gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
 `/usr/home/bfriesen/build/GraphicsMagick-8-static/GraphicsMagick-1.2.020040418/_build'

 % automake --version
 automake (GNU automake) 1.8.3

 This is under FreeBSD 5.X.

 What steps should I take to find the cause of this problem?

 Bob
 ==
 Bob Friesenhahn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen




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