Re: software build

2003-03-30 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'd like to invite you to this project. how do you handle cycles in the tree? how do you handle multiple roots? how do you handle transient relations? thi

Re: Is a ChangeLog file realistic if /lots/ of developers adding/lots/ of changes?

2003-06-19 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you have any advice or ways to streamline the process I would very much like to hear it. spend one hour a week as a group reading change logs (and only change logs -- no code!) for the week preceding. discuss applicability of changes, especially whether or not the

Re: Is a ChangeLog file realistic if /lots/ of developers adding/lots/ of changes?

2003-06-20 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
From: Ronald Landheer-Cieslak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:52:25 +0200 (CEST) That is actually a very good idea! that's why they pay me the big bux (oh wait... ;-) thi

Re: Is a ChangeLog file realistic if /lots/ of developers adding/lots/ of changes?

2003-06-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:57:26 -0700 This overhead will take work and commitment from people. How much improvement can this deliver?? 10%? 50%? 500%? the way to look at it is that you WANT work and commitment from people, but you want the right kind of work a

zonking .la and .a files

2003-09-13 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
greetings libtool and automake folks, is there any way to tell libtool/automake NOT to install .la and .a files? i would like to install only the shared object libraries as "plugin modules" (the main program knows of the plugin modules location and can dlopen them directly w/o search; there is no

Re: zonking .la and .a files

2003-09-13 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
argh! it figures, the answer is actually in autoconf: AC_DISABLE_STATIC AM_PROG_LIBTOOL sorry for the noise. thi

Re: how to change the behaviour of "make check"?

2003-09-17 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Ireneusz SZCZESNIAK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: But I only want "make" to ignore errors from running tests, not all errors. My test scripts are automatically generated by "make" and then run. If "make" fails to generate such a script, then I want "make" to report the error and stop.

Re: how to change the behaviour of "make check"?

2003-09-17 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:07:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Ireneusz SZCZESNIAK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yeah! But still I want the output of "make check" to be clean. When a test fails, then I expect to see: "FAIL: test.sh". in this case the only thing i can suggest is to post-process the Makefil

Re: Should -i mkdir?

2003-09-25 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: So, should automake -i make sure the directory exists and create it if needed? Or that would be considered unsafe (a typo in the name, et voil=E0, a nasty dir pollutes your codeshore). perhaps only if --force is also specified, else signal error

Re: Help Requests

2003-12-09 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
i see from the previous post that you use a "manual VPATH" methodology. there are two approaches you can try: 1/ undo the unorthodoxy (move auto* files to top-level dir) 2/ prefix relative paths (such as "../../") w/ $(srcdir) probably 1/ is the best for minimizing gray hairs long term, although

Re: automake -vs- huge projects

2003-12-18 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
"Paul D. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: If you're willing to require GNU make then I'm quite confidant you could write automake as nothing more than a suite of GNU make macros and functions. I doubt there would be any need for code changes to GNU make at all. i think it would be

Re: Building the .info files in build directory.

2004-03-10 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Kelley Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sorry if this is a RTFM, but I can't find it. The release notes for automake 1.8, mention that it changes the defaults to go back to building the .info files in the source directory since that is the GNU coding standards. What do I have to p

autoconf 1.x for vms maintainership request

2004-04-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
i posted the following to the autoconf list: http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/autoconf/2004-04/msg00131.html but perusing the archive shows that list is mostly full of (other) junk, hence this post, in case autoconf maintainers have decided to avoid that list. thi

Re: autoconf 1.x for vms maintainership request

2004-04-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
From: Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 09:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Autoconf 1.12 is an anchient legacy version dating from eight years ago. The current Autoconf is 2.59. If no one responded, it was probably because your request was similar to proposing a design

Re: autoconf 1.x for vms maintainership request

2004-04-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Maintenance should really include upgrading to the current version of autoconf. that's probably something a maintainer decides, hopefully w/ some input from the users. Is there any VMS support in the older version that is missing in the current

Re: [ot]wiki for auto* tools?

2004-05-21 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
"Jay West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I'll host it in exchange for someone taking 60 seconds to answer my previous post ;) probably if you host such a wiki, your questions (or related ones) will receive wider review and potentially useful answers will show up sooner. thi

Re: executable scripts produced by AC_OUTPUT?

2005-05-22 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Irek Szczesniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a way of achieving my goal? i believe this can be handled completely by autoconf, w/o involving automake. try placing in configure.ac: AC_CONFIG_FILES([fsclient.sh],[chmod +x fsclient.sh]) AC_OUTPUT tested w/ GNU Autoconf 2.59. thi

Re: How to get AC_DEFINE to generate a macro, e.g., #define incr(x) ((x)+1) ?

2005-06-09 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Fred Proctor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How can one get AC_DEFINE to define a variable with an argument > list? I want to do something like this: > > AC_DEFINE(incr(x),((x)+1),"increment") i think either you misunderstand AC_DEFINE or i misunderstand you. where in the documentation is the po

Re: how to run a test file with command line options...

2005-06-17 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Ed Hartnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Howdy all! > > If I have some tests, and want to run them with command line options, > how do I do it? > > For example, I have to have a shell script to run tst_parallel below, > because it needs to be called with the poe command, and some env vars > set

Re: [IMPORTANT] A new versioning scheme for automake releases, and a new branching scheme for the Git repository

2013-01-28 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
be explained in HACKING. to publicize the new versioning scheme - ??? (suggestions welcome) Maybe cut a release that changes only the version number? Personally i would find that to be not particularly useful, but others might welcome the explicitness. -- Thien-Thi Nguyen

Re: Removal of INCLUDES in favour of AM_CPPFLAGS

2013-02-01 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
utomake-NG) from the throng of candidates (one hopes), and then, after a suitable ramp-up period, let the new maintainer decide the fate of the code. [cc -> to, trimmed] -- Thien-Thi Nguyen . GPG key: 4C807502 . NB: ttn at glug dot

Re: [IMPORTANT] Savannah issues

2013-02-24 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
://www.gnuvola.org/u/2013/01/24h09.html>. The point is: For timely resolution, you need to take direct action. Let RCS's (ever-growing) lacuna serve as a warning! -- Thien-Thi Nguyen . GPG key: 4C807502 .

Re: Can automake move aclocal.m4 into subdirectory?

2013-04-22 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
his approach yet, having just learned about it, prompted by your query (so thanks for asking!), however. Does it work? -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 pgp2gxOjWJRrL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Want "make check" to test shared, static lib

2013-11-14 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
r) between a static and shared-lib build. That sounds weird to me. What am i missing? -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list)))

Re: stripping directory component from installation file pathname

2014-03-10 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
sual "make install" flow via: install-data-local: $(MAKE) install-data-am intreelib= This would mimic the -data side of "make install" (i think). -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lis

"make check" clean up

2014-11-23 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
robust solution that can DTRT noninteractively. -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) => nil signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: "make check" clean up

2014-11-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
aemon isn't running; the exit 77 if the daemon isn't running to skip that stop group. [details] Thanks for describing this Autotest setup. I will experiment. -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (

Re: Part 2: Add Cleanfiles for User Defined Special Sources [Re: How to add new Makefile-Rules through Configure?]

2015-03-10 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
precise, all this should happen before calling autoreconf. If you can maintain this phase separation, life is easier. -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical)

INSTALL_DATA += -p

2020-11-03 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
ay to do this? -- Thien-Thi Nguyen --- (defun responsep (query) ; (2020) Software Libero (pcase (context query) ; = Dissenso Etico (`(technical ,ml) (correctp ml)) ...))

Re: INSTALL_DATA += -p

2020-11-04 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
be different then this is a bit trickier (call touch in a loop until the timestamp changes). Thanks. I didn't think/know about the (potential) truncation. -- Thien-Thi Nguyen --- (defun responsep (query) ; (2020) Software

PATCH: doc/automake.texi

2006-04-25 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
ChangeLog entry: * doc/automake.texi (Dependency Tracking Evolution): Fix typo. --- automake.texi 17 Apr 2006 12:14:07 - 1.134 +++ automake.texi 26 Apr 2006 03:03:41 - @@ -10420,7 +10420,7 @@ @item @command{makedepend} This was a commonly-used method in the past

--print-libdir request

2007-04-17 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
some of my autogen.sh (bootstrap script) files use the construct: amprefix=`automake --help | sed '/^Usage:/!d;s/Usage: //;s,/bin/automake.*,,'` amlibdir=`ls -d ${amprefix}/share/automake-* | tail -1` for f in install-sh INSTALL COPYING ; do ln -sf ${amlibdir}/$f done this is not r

Re: --print-libdir request

2007-04-17 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> () Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:58:11 +0200 You mean, other than `automake --add-missing' (or, short: -a)? not really. Or is it that you'd need something like automake --add-missing --install-even-if-i-do-not-use-automake yes. (for some projects i don

AC_PROG_CC sets CFLAGS, what about AM_CFLAGS?

2007-08-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Benoit SIGOURE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> () Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:48:16 +0200 AM_CFLAGS is reserved for developers. It's not a problem if the user overrides the default value of CFLAGS since CFLAGS is reserved for the user. i understand, and am actually trying achieve, this. my point is tha

Re: AC_PROG_CC sets CFLAGS, what about AM_CFLAGS?

2007-09-15 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Benoit SIGOURE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> () Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:12:28 +0200 OK look, here is how it goes AFAIK: - You want to set project-wide flags, use AM_CFLAGS - Your user wants to set project-wide flags, it does: ./configure CFLAGS=... - If your user didn't set project-wide flag

Re: installing only shared lib

2008-02-12 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> () Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:36:29 +0100 Please, do not propagate ugly solutions, unless you know that a clean one does not exist. It's hard to know if a clean one does not exist; i don't maintain these tools and don't generally dig into them more deeply tha

Re: installing only shared lib

2008-02-12 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
ode=install # # Copyright (C) 2007 Thien-Thi Nguyen # # This file is part of ttn-do, released under the terms of the # GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software # Foundation; either version 3, or (at your option) any later # version. There is NO WARRANTY. See file COPYING

playing w/ GCC warnings

2008-08-13 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
What do people do to make experimentation w/ GCC warnings easy? In Guile-PG's configure.in, there is: |## If we're using GCC, ask for aggressive warnings. |if test x"$GCC" = xyes ; then | AGGRESSIVE_WARNINGS="-std=gnu99 -pedantic" | for x in all extra float-equal declaration-after-statement \ |

Re: Makefile to Makefile.am

2010-08-15 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
() "samson.pierre" () Sun, 15 Aug 2010 03:09:50 +0200 (CEST) > > %.bmp: %.xcf > > $(GIMP) -i -b '(xcf-bmp "$<" "$@")' -b '(gimp-quit 0)' Is there an equivalent or anything else which can help me to write this rule avoiding this warning message? I think here you can use something lik

Re: Makefile to Makefile.am

2010-08-15 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
>From 7b70f8b27057c5b9a0f621dcfd5064c5d90947dd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 02:14:56 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Document a common conversion for GNU make pattern rules. * doc/automake.texi (Multiple Outputs): Expand on GNU make pattern rules; explain how to con

Re: guile.m4 documentation

2002-01-08 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
From: Bruce Korb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 21:47:43 -0800 manual dependencies [...] ^^ probably find a lot of these in docs/Makefile.am (yuk yuk ;-). thi

depcomp for texinfo + automake in guile

2002-08-10 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
hi automake folks, in the version of guile i'm munging, i decided to generate texinfo from scanned source snippets, i.e.: .scm -> .doc -> .doc-index -> .texi .c -> .doc (or .cdoc) -> .doc-index -> .texi this is not a simple concatenation, however. .texi is actually made from .twerp ("texi

Re: depcomp for texinfo + automake in guile

2002-08-14 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It would be nice to let other tools that generate dependencies well integrate into automake seamlessly. presumably "well" means "following depcomp protocol", i.e., the transformer for foo.a to foo.b needs to by side effect create .deps/foo.Pb, in whic

conditional subdir handling

2002-08-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
hi automake folks, i would like to have SUBDIRS = a b c D but control recursion into D via a configure.in "enable_D" var. any hint would be appreciated. if there's a recommended way, i'll write it up and submit a doc patch. the docs (autoconf/automake) don't mention "conditional subdirs" l

Re: conditional subdir handling

2002-08-27 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Alexandre Duret-Lutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Amusingly this topic was discussed here last week, and we updated the manual while we were at it. Here is the resulting section of the manual (this text will go into Automake 1.7, but it applies to 1.6.x as well). Fell free to suggest

Re: installing config.h

2002-09-04 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Waldemar Rosenbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Is there another way to solve this kind of problem? well, it's not clean, but you can process the headers on install. this could be a provisional approach (i.e., kludge) while you make the interface platform independent. see below for petrify-h

Re: installing config.h

2002-09-04 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Thien-Thi Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes (imprecisely): you can process the headers on install. sorry, i forgot to emphasize: the headers processed are those other than config.h -- the horrible approach described does not require you to install config.h. (did i mention that this ap

Re: installing config.h

2002-09-04 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
Bruce Korb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: http://ac-archive.sf.net/Miscellaneous/ac_create_prefix_config_h.html thanks for the tip. fwiw, to try this i had to substitute AC_ECHO_MKFILE(foo,bar) with echo 'foo' > bar (the AC_ECHO_MKFILE from the website is empty.) thi

stamp-vti prerequisites

2002-09-05 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
greetings, can someone suggest a way to regen stamp-vti based on changes to a file besides configure.ac? i see this in am/vers-texi.am: ## Depend on %CONFIGURE-AC% so that version number updates cause a ## rebuild. $(srcdir)/stamp-%VTI%: %TEXI% $(top_srcdir)/%CONFIGURE-AC% this is fine i

Re: proposal to fork the build-tools projects

2002-10-18 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
sounds about right -- finding the appropriate mux point to pinch is indeed the first step towards sanity. if you get funding, give me a buzz. otherwise, i will continue to work w/ (old) librx and approach the problem from the guile perspective. (e.g., below is lex.test w/ a simple shell-lexer sp

Re: proposal to fork the build-tools projects

2002-10-21 Thread Thien-Thi Nguyen
From: Dan Kegel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:51:51 -0700 You think the world is ready for Guile? guile is not ready for the world. current install practice spews .la and .so files all over $libdir and uses an internal "bugfixed" copy of libltdl (if my reading of the cvs