Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
I recommend reading the autoconf and automake lists via the NNTP server at gmane.org, as the gmane.comp.sysutil.auto{conf,make}.* groups. They filter spam for you and you don't have to screw around with email subscriptions. -- Implementation details are beyond the scope of the Java virtual

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-28 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 27 May 2004, Lars Hecking wrote: o gnu.org has a prohibitively high volume of email, and SA/Bayes require massive resources. Therefore, the volume of mail going through SA or any other tool must be limited. Bogofilter does a fine job of Bayesian filtering and is 50-100X faster than

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 18:58, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 27 May 2004, Lars Hecking wrote: o Ruthless use of DNS blacklists before mails reach anti-spam. Most of spam on GNU lists originates from known bad boys - Korea, China, dialup/dyn-ip hosts, Comcast, *bell etc. Recommended

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-27 Thread Lars Hecking
Unfortunately, SPAMmers quickly learn how to break through automated defenses so that they can simply subscribe to lists. One way or another, list servers are simply overwelmed. There seems to be no reasonable solution. The problem here is not that spammers subscribe to lists; these

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-27 Thread Earnie Boyd
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 26 May 2004, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Face it, this is not 1994 anymore, the internet has lost its innocence, and badly maintained open lists like the auto*tools lists on gnu.org are a relict of the past. Unfortunately, SPAMmers quickly learn how to break through

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-27 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 10:12:19AM +0100, Lars Hecking wrote: I believe that all of the SourceForge lists are also open. They used to support blocking non-subscribers but that became a nightmare for maintainers so the capability was removed. SourceForge uses SpamAssassin. Just for

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Jay West wrote: You should have sent this to the list owner/admin, not the list. Yes. But the list owner for the automake list is gnulists-ownrr at gnu.org, which is to say, effectively nobody. The list is really running entirely on inertia. For example there are over a hundred messages in

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-26 Thread Earnie Boyd
Ralf Corsepius wrote: On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 07:43, Bob Proulx wrote: Jay West wrote: You should have sent this to the list owner/admin, not the list. Lars Hecking wrote: Most likely, the same thing happens to OP that happens to me: the lists run at gnu.org are crawling with

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 07:43, Bob Proulx wrote: Jay West wrote: You should have sent this to the list owner/admin, not the list. Lars Hecking wrote: Most likely, the same thing happens to OP that happens to me: the lists run at gnu.org are crawling with spam, and a good number of them

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-26 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 26 May 2004, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Face it, this is not 1994 anymore, the internet has lost its innocence, and badly maintained open lists like the auto*tools lists on gnu.org are a relict of the past. Unfortunately, SPAMmers quickly learn how to break through automated defenses so that

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-25 Thread Lars Hecking
More succinctly put, the list server is having trouble reliably reaching your machine. Most likely this isn't the list servers problem, it's yours due to either sporadic connectivity on your part, or somewhere between the list server and you, or sporadic DNS service on your part. If you have

excessive bounces

2004-05-24 Thread Alien999999999
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Every 10 days I get a message from the automake-mailing list that I have to re-enable my subscription, because of excessive bounces. This is very frustrating, I'm running linux, don't have any viruses, and i don't spam people, i hardly ever sent

Re: excessive bounces

2004-05-24 Thread Jay West
. Regards, Jay West - Original Message - From: Alien9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 12:10 PM Subject: excessive bounces -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Every 10 days I get a message from the automake-mailing list that I have