Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
Harlan Stenn wrote (meaning Linux distribution when he writes OS): help tool maintainers make choices about how things that are hard to find out otherwise (like OS-based choices). ... everybody who wants to make OS-level decisions has to code their own tests to figure out the OS name.

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Bruno Haible
Harlan Stenn wrote: If the releases are all that similar, why not use: i686-GnuLinux-* as your test, and provide the popular distributions in the 3rd field? This is a little more reasonable, since it allows to check for Linux with a single test. But the fundamental problem remains: your

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Bob Proulx wrote: If the releases are all that similar, why not use: i686-GnuLinux-* as your test, and provide the popular distributions in the 3rd field? The magic command has a large database of selections on it; using this sort of mechanism should greatly

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 13:43, Bruno Haible wrote: Harlan Stenn wrote: If the releases are all that similar, why not use: i686-GnuLinux-* as your test, and provide the popular distributions in the 3rd field? This is a little more reasonable, How would that be basically different

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
If there was a version number in the Vendor field I'd be lots happier. In the RH distros I've seen (and the config.guess output on those boxes) I have still only seen pc for the Vendor field. H -- On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 13:43, Bruno Haible wrote: Harlan Stenn wrote: If the releases are

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Harlan Stenn
I bet you have never tried to deploy this in the real world in an environment with a useful number of heterogeneous OS installations running at different OS rev levels. In my experience this simply doesn't scale. Especially if it gets used in somebody's shell RC files. Your approach still

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Tue, 2004-01-13 at 18:18, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Bob Proulx wrote: If the releases are all that similar, why not use: i686-GnuLinux-* as your test, and provide the popular distributions in the 3rd field? The magic command has a large database of

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-09 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:53:58AM +, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: | Sorry for having to say this, but IMO, configure scripts relying on | config.guess'ed values are badly designed and fundamentally flawed. It's a pity you think that. I always found libtool to be rather

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 11:53, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: Ralf Corsepius wrote: | Sorry for having to say this, but IMO, configure scripts relying on | config.guess'ed values are badly designed and fundamentally flawed. It's a pity you think that. I always found libtool to be rather useful.

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-07 Thread Bruno Haible
Harlan Stenn wrote in a footnote: There are people who think a config.guess output that says: i686-pc-linux-gnu is normal, while some of us feel that is a particularly useless value and would prefer to see something like: i686-pc-redhat7.3 instead, just like the original documentation

Re: config.guess and freedom (was: 1.8 and mkdir_p)

2004-01-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 22:51, Harlan Stenn wrote: A configure script that has to check for 125 brand names, only for Linux, is not only unmaintainable, it also limits the freedom to fork a new distribution. So for this reason people who write scripts (autoconf or otherwise) who can