Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-12 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Jan Engelhardt wrote on Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:55:02PM CET: On Wednesday 2009-03-11 22:43, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: The command line option --silent-rules does the same as the argument `silent' to the AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE macro in configure.ac: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE([silent]) Both enable silent

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-11 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Ralf Wildenhues wrote on Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 10:46:40AM CET: The current patch still has a couple of warts in that --silent-rules should turn off portability-recursive warnings independently of the command line argument order. This is another reason I don't like this addition much: it

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Wednesday 2009-03-11 21:06, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: * Ralf Wildenhues wrote on Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 10:46:40AM CET: The current patch still has a couple of warts in that --silent-rules should turn off portability-recursive warnings independently of the command line argument order. This is

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-11 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Jan Engelhardt wrote on Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:34:20PM CET: On Wednesday 2009-03-11 21:06, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Do we want to allow a command line knob (--silent-rules) to turn off `silent' mode, or do we force developers to either touch the AUTOMAKE_OPTIONS variable in Makefile.am

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Wednesday 2009-03-11 22:43, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: * Jan Engelhardt wrote on Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:34:20PM CET: On Wednesday 2009-03-11 21:06, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Do we want to allow a command line knob (--silent-rules) to turn off `silent' mode, or do we force developers to either

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Ralf Wildenhues wrote: * Ralf Corsepius wrote on Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 03:57:58PM CET: Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Monday 2009-03-09 15:44, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Ralf Wildenhues wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. I suppose you are

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-10 Thread Jim Meyering
Ralf Wildenhues wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. It adds an automake option to enable silent build rules. Here's why I wrote it in the first place: if you are a distribution and want to change all your packages to build silently, you may not want to change

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Monday 2009-03-09 15:44, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Ralf Wildenhues wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. All this silencing stuff does is to add further potential sources of errors. Which ones,

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2009-03-09 15:57, Ralf Corsepius wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. All this silencing stuff does is to add further potential sources of errors. Which ones, please? Those yet to be discovered. Oh what great

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Monday 2009-03-09 15:57, Ralf Corsepius wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. All this silencing stuff does is to add further potential sources of errors. Which ones,

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2009-03-09 16:10, Ralf Corsepius wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. All this silencing stuff does is to add further potential sources of errors. Which ones, please? Those yet to be discovered. Oh what

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Monday 2009-03-09 16:10, Ralf Corsepius wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. All this silencing stuff does is to add further potential sources of errors. Which ones, please?

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2009-03-09 16:54, Ralf Corsepius wrote: which has some similar silent mode too (by default even!)... Correct. that's one of cmake's sillynesses. It hides away the silent bugs a package suffers from. Potential bugs in the command line invoking $CC that automake generates just go

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Ralf Corsepius wrote on Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 03:57:58PM CET: Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Monday 2009-03-09 15:44, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Ralf Wildenhues wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. I suppose you are opposed to the whole topic,

Re: [PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-09 Thread Raja R Harinath
Hi, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@medozas.de writes: On Monday 2009-03-09 15:57, Ralf Corsepius wrote: For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. FWIW: I am opposed to it. All this silencing stuff does is to add further potential sources of errors. Which ones,

[PATCH 4/4] New automake command line option `--silent-rules'.

2009-03-08 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
For this patch, I'm unsure if we should even add it at all. It adds an automake option to enable silent build rules. Here's why I wrote it in the first place: if you are a distribution and want to change all your packages to build silently, you may not want to change each package's configure.ac