Re: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-09-23 Thread Karl Berry
If anyone who weighed in on the Python prefix stuff (or didn't, for that matter) has a chance to try the new pretest at https://meyering.net/automake/automake-1.16g.tar.xz that'd be great. It'd be nice not to have to do another patch-up release. Thanks, Karl

Re: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-09-19 Thread Karl Berry
Regarding PYTHON_PREFIX setting in automake, I've pushed a change that (I hope) reverts to the previous behavior of using the usual GNU prefix variables by default. It's attached. The new configure option --with-python-sys-prefix yields the the 1.16.4 behavior of using the sys.* Python values.

Re: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-08-26 Thread Karl Berry
I think we need an easy way to set a default for this behaviour from within configure.ac, similar to AC_PREFIX_DEFAULT(), so that the end-user doesn't have to pass a bunch of options to configure just to get the build to work sensibly. I have nothing against the idea, but my

Re: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-08-26 Thread Luke Mewburn
On 21-08-25 10:00, Karl Berry wrote: | yf> Would keeping PYTHON_PREFIX but changing its default to the | "classical" value be a working solution for this ? | | Yes, I think we should. And I think I should have been smart enough to | realize that changing the default behavior was

Re: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-08-25 Thread Karl Berry
yf> Would keeping PYTHON_PREFIX but changing its default to the "classical" value be a working solution for this ? Yes, I think we should. And I think I should have been smart enough to realize that changing the default behavior was too risky in the first place. Apologies for that. My

Re: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-08-25 Thread Joshua Root
On 2021-8-25 10:14 , Karl Berry wrote: Ok, I guess we'll have to revert the Python change and make another release. I was worried about the change. But I am not sure of how best to deal with the intended benefits. Joshua, can you please take a look at these reports and advise?

Re: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-08-25 Thread FOURNIER Yvan via Discussion list for automake
Hello, Would keeping PYTHON_PREFIX but changing its default to the "classical" value be a working solution for this ? Best regards, Yvan Le 25 août 2021 07:08, j...@macports.org a écrit : On 2021-8-25 10:14 , Karl Berry wrote: > Ok, I guess we'll have to revert the Python change and make

RE: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-08-24 Thread Karl Berry
Ok, I guess we'll have to revert the Python change and make another release. I was worried about the change. But I am not sure of how best to deal with the intended benefits. Joshua, can you please take a look at these reports and advise?

RE: automake 1.16.4 and new PYTHON_PREFIX

2021-08-24 Thread FOURNIER Yvan via Discussion list for automake
Hello, I concurr. In the case of the software I work on (code-saturne.org), we have in addition chosen not to version generated files, so as to be more consistent with a "maintainer mode" logic. Meaning that depending on the machine we install on, we can get a different behavior, as we cannot