On 02/05/2012 18:16, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:18 AM, David Brownda...@westcontrol.com wrote:
I agree with what you are saying. I'm just trying to suggest that getting
Haskell to work on the AVR is more akin to getting Linux to work on the AVR
- while perhaps Lua,
Gabriel Dos Reis schrieb:
Georg-Johann Lay wrote:
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
I guess I would need to get my feet wet with
1. minimal free-standing C++ implementations without exceptions
2. get support for RTTI (without exceptions)
3. exceptions (assuming 1 and 2 are done successfully)
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Georg-Johann Lay a...@gjlay.de wrote:
Gabriel Dos Reis schrieb:
Georg-Johann Lay wrote:
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
I guess I would need to get my feet wet with
1. minimal free-standing C++ implementations without exceptions
2. get support for RTTI (without
On 05/03/2012 05:20 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
and flashT if we decide to have one.
And to have great incompatibility with C11 address space qualifiers.
Sergey.
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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Sergey A. Borshch
sb...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
On 05/03/2012 05:20 PM, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
and flashT if we decide to have one.
And to have great incompatibility with C11 address space qualifiers.
See how C11 handles std::atomicT.
Anyway, all I am
On 01/05/2012 21:34, Bob Paddock wrote:
a subgroup
of students (under my direction) has set up to write a
compiler for a subset
of Haskell targetting AVR. This is quite an exciting research project.
There is the Atom subset of Haskell meant for embedding, if you are
not aware
On 01/05/2012 15:04, Georg-Johann Lay wrote:
Gabriel Dos Reis schrieb:
Georg-Johann Lay wrote:
Kövesdi György schrieb:
I am using avr-g++ for building my projects for avr and i am
happy with it. :-)
But i would need exception support, and could not find how to
get it work. I found some mails
Not having libstdc++ for the AVR has not had big consequences; the only
complaints that we've ever had was for not having the new and delete
operators.
I know your aware of this Eric as you commented on it back in 2006,
but for any new comers that might want to became the new/delete
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
My recent interests in AVR grew out of educational and research
activities -- as I explained in a relatively recent post on libstdc++.
I am still learning AVR and its toolsets but I can definitely help with
the C++ part.
We are in the situation where we would like
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Georg-Johann Lay a...@gjlay.de wrote:
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
My recent interests in AVR grew out of educational and research
activities -- as I explained in a relatively recent post on libstdc++.
I am still learning AVR and its toolsets but I can definitely
On 01/05/2012 17:18, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
My recent interests in AVR grew out of educational and research
activities -- as I explained in a relatively recent post on libstdc++. I am
still learning AVR and its toolsets but I can definitely help with the C++ part.
We are in the situation
-gcc-list] using exceptions
I can't help wondering in all this - is it worth the effort? Are people
/really/ going to program in Haskell for the AVR? Don't get me wrong
here - I like functional programming, and would prefer to be able to do
more of it. It is a programming style which
- Could Lua be made to work on an AVR?
eLua already runs on the AVR32:
http://www.eluaproject.net/overview/status
Only real problem with Lua on the AVR that I recall is lack of RAM,
when I looked at doing this a few years ago.
Some type of post processing of the code might be able to get more
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Weddington, Eric
eric.wedding...@atmel.com wrote:
We're talking about university students and research projects. It does NOT
have to be efficient. They're working on something new. It's the nature of
research projects to try and find out what are the issues.
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:18 AM, David Brown da...@westcontrol.com wrote:
I agree with what you are saying. I'm just trying to suggest that getting
Haskell to work on the AVR is more akin to getting Linux to work on the AVR
- while perhaps Lua, OCAML, more C++, or other options might be a
Gabriel Dos Reis schrieb:
Georg-Johann Lay wrote:
Kövesdi György schrieb:
I am using avr-g++ for building my projects for avr and i am
happy with it. :-)
But i would need exception support, and could not find how to
get it work. I found some mails in the archive (dated many
years ago) about
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Georg-Johann Lay a...@gjlay.de wrote:
Gabriel Dos Reis schrieb:
Georg-Johann Lay wrote:
Kövesdi György schrieb:
I am using avr-g++ for building my projects for avr and i am
happy with it. :-)
But i would need exception support, and could not find how to
: [avr-gcc-list] using exceptions
My recent interests in AVR grew out of educational and research
activities -- as I explained in a relatively recent post on libstdc++. I am
still learning AVR and its toolsets but I can definitely help with the C++
part.
We are in the situation where we
, 2012 9:18 AM
To: Georg-Johann Lay
Cc: avr-gcc-list@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] using exceptions
My recent interests in AVR grew out of educational and research
activities -- as I explained in a relatively recent post on libstdc++. I am
still learning AVR and its toolsets but I
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
I guess I would need to get my feet wet with
1. minimal free-standing C++ implementations without exceptions
As for getting started, you'll find much of the collected knowledge
about using C++ on AVRs in the AVR Freaks thread below.
a subgroup
of students (under my direction) has set up to write a
compiler for a subset
of Haskell targetting AVR. This is quite an exciting research project.
There is the Atom subset of Haskell meant for embedding, if you are
not aware of it:
Atom is a Haskell DSL for
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From: dosr...@gmail.com [mailto:dosr...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos
Reis
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:48 AM
To: Weddington, Eric
Cc: Georg-Johann Lay; avr-gcc-list@nongnu.org; Joerg Wunsch
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] using exceptions
I've seen
-gcc-list] using exceptions
a subgroup
of students (under my direction) has set up to write a
compiler for a subset
of Haskell targetting AVR. This is quite an exciting research
project.
There is the Atom subset of Haskell meant for embedding, if you are
not aware
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] using exceptions
There is the Atom subset of Haskell meant for embedding, if you are
not aware of it:
Atom is a Haskell DSL for designing hard real-time embedded software.
At Eaton, we use it for automotive control systems. Based on guarded
atomic actions
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From: dosr...@gmail.com [mailto:dosr...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel Dos
Reis
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:48 AM
To: Weddington, Eric
Cc: Georg-Johann Lay; avr-gcc-list@nongnu.org; Joerg Wunsch
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] using exceptions
Essentially
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Bob Paddock graceindustr...@gmail.com wrote:
a subgroup
of students (under my direction) has set up to write a
compiler for a subset
of Haskell targetting AVR. This is quite an exciting research
project.
There is the Atom subset of Haskell
@nongnu.org; Joerg Wunsch
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] using exceptions
Essentially, we would like to:
(1) spice up our programming class projects with
robots programming -- many of our students are native C++ speakers,
and AVR-based robots are cheap :-)
(2) as a research project
, 2012 2:06 PM
To: Bob Paddock; Gabriel Dos Reis
Cc: avr-gcc-list@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [avr-gcc-list] using exceptions
There is the Atom subset of Haskell meant for embedding, if you are
not aware of it:
Atom is a Haskell DSL for designing hard real-time embedded software.
At Eaton
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Georg-Johann Lay a...@gjlay.de wrote:
Kövesdi György schrieb:
I am using avr-g++ for building my projects for avr and i am happy with
it. :-)
But i would need exception support, and could not find how to get it work.
:-(
I found some mails in the archive
Kövesdi György schrieb:
I am using avr-g++ for building my projects for avr and i am happy with it. :-)
But i would need exception support, and could not find how to get it work. :-(
I found some mails in the archive (dated many years ago) about possibility of
building libstdc++ or libsupc++
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