Re: Who is interested in

2012-05-14 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
No offense, but this kind of thing happens in every community once in a while.
A (new) guy wants to create his own site, get everyone on it, and then claim 
it's the ultimate community thing.
Such things are only good for your ego (if you were even able to achieve it, 
which you're not), and is usually not actually helpful at all, as it only 
increases scattering of information, and is often not what we needed in the 
first place.

Dieter 


On Mon, 14 May 2012 16:13:24 +0200
Christopher R. Parr foss...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look. As I said I'm new to awsome. And this could be a way easier to
 understand for people interested in switching to awesome..
 
 All I want is to build a plattform, which is open to anyone, no matter
 what knowleges they have. As long as they want to know more,
 awesomnia.org is here to help.
 
 Christopher
 
 2012/5/14 Thorsten Sperber li...@aero2k.de:
  On Mon, 14 May 2012 15:59:34 +0200
  Theodor van Nahl theo...@van-nahl.org wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  because you choose a blog-software I have to ask:
  What kind of community do you have in mind?
  What should be the aim for an seperated awesome-community?
 
 
  A more general question from my side: where do you (by you I mean the
  list recipients) talk about awesome? I rarely do, mostly with people I
  already know (from the debian community). More technical questions find
  their way to the mailing list. If awesome.naquadah.org had a forum
  with the core devs as active members, I would probably have a look from
  time to time. But I surely wouldn't follow a blog driven by people who
  can't even help themselves in rather easy questions ;) Sorry,
  Christopher.
 
  Thorsten
 
 
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Re: Comparison of extensible window managers

2011-09-15 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Awesome does not support tabbing.
Plugins that used to provide it have been broken for a long time, with no 
solution in sight
(which is why I think the tabbing support should not be listed on the frontpage 
- http://awesome.naquadah.org/ )

Dieter

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:55:54 +0200
Zsolt Udvari udvzs...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!
 
 Awesome has Tabbed windows feature?
 What's tabbed? Similar to many browsers and music players (each tab
 has an own content/playlist)?
 I think, this feature does not support by awesome (you can write an
 own lua code, but IMHO the basic awesome does not support).
 Awesome-users: or it supports and I think not good?
 
 Zsolt
 
 
 2011/9/15 Teika Kazura te...@lavabit.com:
  Hi, Awesome list.
 
  I think Awesome is one of window managers extensible by users, or
  programmable, offering the API and allowing users to override the
  core code, or freely define new behaviors, though I haven't tried
  Awesome actually yet.
 
  I'm a former developer of Sawfish which is also of such kind of WMs,
  using a Lisp dialect. I'm interested in comparing them, and created
  a wiki page for it:
   http://sawfish.wikia.com/wiki/Comparison_of_extensible_window_managers
  There Xmonad and StumpWM are also studied.
 
  If someone is interested, please improve that article. Feel free to
  add any subjects. Or if you don't feel like editing wiki, you can
  comment here, and I'll do the actual edit.
 
  Of course I'll be glad to answer any questions about Sawfish.
 
  I've already posted a similar message to the Xmonad list.
 
  With best regards,
  Teika (Teika kazura)
 
 
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Re: Awesome screencast

2011-09-06 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:40:52 +0200
Thorsten Sperber li...@aero2k.de wrote:

 Am 05.09.2011 18:06, schrieb Anurag Priyam:
  A couple of topics that I would like to see in future screen casts
  (in no particular order):
 
  0. Default rc.lua and configuring basic things like keybindings,
  mouse buttons 1. Awesome's rules engine
  2. Naughty
  3. Layouts
  4. Widgets
  5. Vicious
  6. Keygrabber and mousegrabber API
  7. Signals
  8. Menu
 
 I second that :)
 

+1. that would be great :)

Dieter

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Re: Awesome screencast

2011-09-02 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:03:54 +0200
Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 01 2011, Alexander Yakushev wrote:
 
  I decided to take a shot at making an Awesome screencast that may
  tell people about its basics. The first result is crappy as hell
  (especially, the sound) but I hope next parts would be better.
  Briefly speaking, take a look and tell what do you think:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ_RVkAGf60
  I think the second part would be about basic Awesome hotkeys,
  navigation etc., and in the third part configuration stuff can be
  highlighted. However any advices (concerning future screencast
  topics, mistakes and so on) from you are greatly appreciated.
 
 This is a good idea, an the first part is nice.
 
 Maybe new users can give you ideas of what they would like to learn,
 and mid-level users could give you ideas about what they would have
 liked to learn earlier. :-)
 

Hi,
you should probably get a better microphone / use better settings / pay more 
attention to speak in a more consistent volume or consistent distance from the 
microphone, or use a compresser to normalize the audio volume differences.

Looking forward to your screencasts, but ones with good sound quality I hope, I 
couldn't understand some parts of this one.

Dieter

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Re: How to make awesome launcher (Mod4-r) respect .bashrc aliases?

2011-05-05 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 05 May 2011 18:15:09 +0200
Pieter Praet pie...@praet.org wrote:

 Very odd.
 
 I'm beginning to doubt whether your .bashrc is even being sourced.
 
 
 Could you try adding to your remote .bashrc:
   export testvar=something
 
 And run locally:
   ssh user@remote echo \$testvar
 
 
 That should most definitely return a nonzero length string.

18:16:34 dieter@Gi ~ ssh dieter-linode1 # the remote
Last login: Thu May  5 18:16:13 2011 from 157.193.135.93
bash profile
bashrc
[dieter@dieter-linode1 ~]$ head -n 2 .bashrc 
export testvar=something
echo bashrc before interactive check
[dieter@dieter-linode1 ~]$ logout
Connection to dieter-linode1 closed.
18:16:31 dieter@Gi ~ ssh dieter-linode1 echo \$testvar # zsh on my local 
machine..

18:17:07 dieter@Gi ~ bash
[dieter@gibran ~]$ ssh dieter-linode1 echo \$testvar # just to be really 
sure: same result with bash..

[dieter@gibran ~]$



maybe you have something in your /etc/bash* that causes incorrect sourcing, 
whereas I don't?

Dieter



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Re: How to make terminal font smooth?

2011-04-20 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:31:26 +0400
immerrr again... imme...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/20/2011 02:36 PM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
  how confusing, how does this compare to other tricks like
  Xdefaults or .gtkrc?
 
  Dieter

 gtkrc  Xdefaults is a common way to store configuration parameters 
 for a variety of programs and these parameters may be used to
 fine-tune (override) font rendering configuration on per-application
 basis.
 

ah, that explains.  I thought one could also store cross-application
settings in Xdefaults/gtkrc. (like generic xft options)

Dieter

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Re: awesome and desktop files in ~/.config/autostart

2010-02-16 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:03:46 +0100
Gregor Best g...@ring0.de wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 04:08:29PM -0800, Mathieu Zhang wrote:
  [...]
  A more general question, is it the DM or WM's job to parse
  ~/.config/autostart?? [...]
 
 IMHO not. That's what we have .xinitrc or .xsession files for. They
 are easier to use, easier to maintain and they don't have nasty side
 effects (such as starting programs on each restart, as you mentioned).
 
 Also, IMHO, the freedesktop stuff is reinventing the wheel. I mean,
 yeah, DBUS and the .config/.cache directories are nice things, but
 doing something again which already has been done in an easily
 customizable fashion is just a waste of time.
 

what's wrong with $XDG_CACHE_DIR? i also don't like most of
freedesktop.org stuff; but imho the xdg basedir spec is a great thing.
it helps me to keep my ~ clean.

if you want a tool to spawn apps based on autostart .desktop files; i
wrote just that:
http://github.com/Dieterbe/dautostart

i used it for a while but then realised xinitrc kicks xdg autostart's
ass ;) now i use http://github.com/Dieterbe/microde

Dieter

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Re: [ANN]: Unagi: an XCB compositing manager

2010-02-11 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:43:06 +0100
Arnaud Fontaine arn...@andesi.org wrote:

 Hello,
 
 During the last  year, I began writing a compositing  manager as part
 of my Master  dissertation.  (...)

Looks cool.
- What's the difference with xcompmgr? (i haven't used either)
- does this make it possible to implement a clone view where you see
  the same window(s) on 2 screens (of potentially different sizes), or
  do you need a compositing WM for that?

Dieter

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Re: Modal/ratpoison/screen like key bindings

2010-01-08 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:52:41 +0530
Anurag Priyam anurag08pri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also want to implement the same. From a previous mail it seems that
 Gregor Best seems to have a solution.
 
 @Gregor Please do help us in implementing modal keybindings. We could
 contact you off the list if desired.

off-list? are you crazy?
share the wisdom!

Dieter

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list of questions

2009-12-28 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Hi everyone.
You may know me from uzbl, Arch Linux or somewhere else, if not: hi!

Mostly because of the requirements uzbl puts on WM's, but also because I
never had a this is it! moment with any WM, I'm looking for
a new WM, and awesome is one of the candidates (the others are xmonad,
i3, qtile and samurai-x)

I have a list of things I really want in a WM.
some of these things I already found in awesome (i.e. adherence to the
xdg basedir spec), but others I couldn't find yet.
So I would really appreciate it if you could help me answering these
questions/topics.
For most of them goes: if it's not implemented, does it fit
with the design goals and/or how hard is it to implement myself?
Some of the points are just a curiosity.

* maximized and fullscreen are two separate layouts?
* why do i need to restart xbindkeys after doing an awesome restart? how 
exactly does the restart work?
* tabbed mode for entire view or specific regions in it? is it possible to have 
for example 5 cells in a tiling layout, with one cell being in tabbed layout? 
according to 
http://www.mail-archive.com/awesome-de...@naquadah.org/msg03545.html, tabbing 
isn't really well supported right now?
* when matching windows in the config (or interactively) can i send windows to 
very specific cells/tabs or a tab in a cell?  can i then send commands to a 
specific cell/window? for example if you have 6 cells and i want to swap the 
windows between the 5th and 6th, or move it to another tag.
* can you move clients between arbitrary locations (next colum, up/down etc)
* everything that can be done interactively, can be done with an api/command?
* can i query everything? eg: which tags are there, which
  windows are in which position (floating layout) or cell (tiling), and/or tab?
* signals are spawned anytime *anything* happens? even for subtle things like a 
window resize, and would that
  example also give me information such as the X id, orig and new size? is 
there a list of signals somewhere?
* session saving/restoring? even with fancy layouts like a tabbed cell in a 
tiling layout?
* ability to launch new windows unfocused and/or invisible. very important for 
me (without flicker)
* modal keyboard interface? (i hate modkeys). ie single key commands to trigger 
WM behaviors, 'i' to go in insert mode to send key events to clients
   
* why not reparenting? (read this on wikipedia) how do the decorations work 
then?
* awesome-client seems to be quite costly: it's a shell script with several 
fork/exec calls, and uses dbus.
   can i do everything it does by just writing to a unix domain socket/fifo?
* tiling/floating behavior seems too hardcoded: what if i want a stack in the 
master or slave area? (eg multiple clients behind each other, where you can 
put new ones on top (put) or pop them off (pop). like a real stack.  what about 
a fullscreen/maximized stack? is everything available to truly customize how 
all layouts work?   
* what's the point of awsetbg? isn't it up to the user to know how to call his 
wallpaper setting app? after all he installed it on his system.
* can i close the topleft menu with esc after clicking it?

* quote from  http://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Awesome_3_configuration:
 There's a lot of hooks you can use and define: focus, unfocus, manage, 
unmanage, mouseover, arrange, titleupdate, urgent, timer, … Refer to the 
manpage for more information.
couldn't find info about hooks in any manpage.


Thanks,
Dieter

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