Re: CAS for the masses (was RE: [Axiom-mail] how to calculate Ricci...)

2007-03-27 Thread Ondrej Certik
Anyway, I'm hopeful that someday CAS for the masses will consist of not a whole new simplified system but of defining in Axiom or something like it a set of assumptions and constraints that creates the simplified environment. To me that makes the most sense for both correctness and expandibility

Re: CAS for the masses (was RE: [Axiom-mail] how to calculate Ricci...)

2007-03-27 Thread Ondrej Certik
As a simple example - if it is not able to simplify simple powers or to do a simple limit (see my older emails on that), then it's not for me. Ondrej On 3/27/07, Ondrej Certik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I'm hopeful that someday CAS for the masses will consist of not a whole new

Re: CAS for the masses (was RE: [Axiom-mail] how to calculate Ricci...)

2007-03-27 Thread C Y
--- Ondrej Certik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a simple example - if it is not able to simplify simple powers or to do a simple limit (see my older emails on that), then it's not for me. Ondrej Sure. Some of that is probably bugs, and some might be more subtle. But in theory, if it is

Re: CAS for the masses (was RE: [Axiom-mail] how to calculate Ricci...)

2007-03-27 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
C Y [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: |It's like using a wagon to cross the US vs. building a | railway across it. Yes, if you only want to cross once and start | farming you can use the wagon, but in the long run the railway will | open up a lot more possibilities and it's worth the extra

Re: CAS for the masses (was RE: [Axiom-mail] how to calculate Ricci...)

2007-03-27 Thread Ondrej Certik
I agree with you. So SymPy is rather competing with Maxima than with Axiom. Maybe you would like The Zen of Python (by Tim Peters), it's something like an anthem of Python and it's actually built in the Python interpreter :). I share this philosophy in SymPy completely: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

[Axiom-mail] Re: CAS for the masses

2007-03-27 Thread Francois Maltey
I'm very iteresting by the question. Is there a CAS for masses ? Let me tell my point of view... I must use Maple with my beginning graduate students. About 1 hour per week for them. Maple isnot a great idea because the language isn't typed. There is only one type of matrix, 0 in Integer =