Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread mac_v
> Ryan Prior > > My common sense says that it won't be a big problem, and I haven't > seen anyone be confused in that way yet. Pop-unders containing > advertisements definitely trigger that reflex, but as this is a very > orderly and useful widow without any garish images or exclamation > points,

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread Natan Yellin
Hello, On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:00 AM, tacone wrote: > Hello, I'd like to share my view on the issue, since I consider it a > drammatically serious one ;-). > > As many people I loved the orange icon (and I loved the choice of icon > as well), and I'm much concerned about pop unders. > > * If I

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread tacone
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:21 AM, Ryan Prior wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:00 PM, tacone wrote: >> * If I am right, the issue with the orange icon is that not noticeable. >> * The issue with popups, is they're intrusive. So time limits had to >> be put on (the once a week limit) > > I don't se

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread Ryan Prior
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:00 PM, tacone wrote: > * If I am right, the issue with the orange icon is that not noticeable. > * The issue with popups, is they're intrusive. So time limits had to > be put on (the once a week limit) I don't see the popups as intrusive. No information is being sent out

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread tacone
Hello, I'd like to share my view on the issue, since I consider it a drammatically serious one ;-). As many people I loved the orange icon (and I loved the choice of icon as well), and I'm much concerned about pop unders. * If I am right, the issue with the orange icon is that not noticeable. * T

[Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread Paulo J. S. Silva
Ryan reply to me. --- Begin Message --- Hello Paulo, Thanks for the reply. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: > Ryan, > Why did you answer directly to me? Shouldn't the discussion take place > in the list? Yes. This was my mistake, I clicked to reply just to you and then l

[Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread Paulo J. S. Silva
Reply to Ryan: --- Begin Message --- Ryan, Why did you answer directly to me? Shouldn't the discussion take place in the list? Do you have some hard data to back up your assertions on the fact that repeated notifications + a well designed icon on the panel versus a pop-under window will generate

[Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

2009-06-15 Thread Paulo J. S. Silva
Forwarding a message from Ryan that was inadvertently sent only to me... I will also forward my answer and his reply to that. --- Begin Message --- On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: > The purpose of this message is to present an alternative that I believe > is in line with

Re: [Ayatana] a "radically different" solution for updates and reboot requests

2009-06-15 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno lun, 15/06/2009 alle 11.09 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: > > > I originarily wanted to add comments to the wiki page, but it is > oriented to notifications while this is a specific idea for the > notification manager, so I finally deleted it from the wiki and I > post > it here

[Ayatana] a "radically different" solution for updates and reboot requests

2009-06-15 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Paulo J. S. Silva ha scritto: Hi, Sorry for the long message, must I need to set some context before going to the point. I am trying to bring the discussion on update-manger changes, with its new pop-under behavior to this forum as suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/updat