Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-16 Thread Conscious User
I had filed a bug report on this issue: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/519553 I, too, have seen the negative effects of it at this point. It hasn't been as pronounced as my original doomsday prediction, but it is troubling. To be honest I'm not

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-16 Thread Jarlath Reidy
When I'm teaching people how to use computers - I tell them to think of the right button as the 'menu button' (the word *context* is off-putting to many). This drastically improves their ability to interact with the desktop and predict what behaviour is expected of them. It makes sense to them

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-16 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/16 Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com Plus, with this mockup, you need an inidicator icon/menu for each class of application that might put things in the notification area? No. Just for the corner cases that cannot use libappindicator and never will, like Wine and Java. Are there

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-16 Thread Scott Ritchie
On 04/25/2010 04:04 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 19:28 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: I do believe that the best balance would be to prompt the user in specific moments (log-out, before suspend/lock) with a dialog that has as default option to apply the updates. The

Re: [Ayatana] Sound Menu

2010-06-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tyler Brainerd wrote on 12/05/10 02:48: Looking at the mockups for the new SoundMenu design https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu, which looks great, my one concern is for consistency. Right now, with all the new applets, we have a myriad of

Re: [Ayatana] Is it just me, or are the Users and Groups dialogs horrible?

2010-06-16 Thread Luke Benstead
On 16 June 2010 14:54, Omer Akram om2...@gmail.com wrote: the 'about me' and 'users and groups' will be replaced by User accounts diagloue in maverick. On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 14:39 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: Hi all, This has been bugging me for a little while. Most of the dialogs

Re: [Ayatana] Is it just me, or are the Users and Groups dialogs horrible?

2010-06-16 Thread Allan Day
the 'about me' and 'users and groups' will be replaced by User accounts diagloue in maverick. You mean the User Accounts dialog [1] that has been developed by Fedora? This is going to be part of GNOME 3.0 (I think). Allan [1]

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-06-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default install and session. MPT, you might want to provide guidance on the upgrade experience - this should be added to sessions after update. Mark signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Ayatana] Application Menu bug consolidation and plans

2010-06-16 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 14/06/10 18:59, nickwinl...@comcast.net wrote: My message is to the passive group or those who lurk.. Please note that ``duped'' isn't a word. That is what you all should work on fixing technologically and socially in the future, and not creating new branches or nodes from the same tree

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-16 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/16 Jarlath Reidy jarlathre...@gmail.com *(The only thing that catches them out is when to single-click and when to double-click, but explaining the difference between the file-manager, desktop, web-browser and toolbars etc comes later. )* When I realized that the difference is totally

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-16 Thread Anzan Hoshin Roshi
On 16 June 2010 09:51, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 16/06/10 11:45, Jarlath Reidy wrote: Having a different menu for each button seems to fall between two lines of thinking and personally, I get caught out all the time by the current setup - I can't remember which button to

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-16 Thread Conscious User
Kristoffer, calm down. This is a brainstorm phase. None of the ideas proposed so far were proposed in the most polished form possible, and there are many other possible ideas to consider. It is a little bit premature to conclude that keeping the notification area exactly as it is for Wine apps

Re: [Ayatana] dx-m-indicator-sound feedback

2010-06-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dylan McCall wrote on 14/05/10 18:19: ... I was listening to the dx-m-indicator-sound session at UDS-M. I'm really looking forward to the work on this now! (Although I couldn't find the Gobby document). Kudos for using existing specifications (eg:

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

2010-06-16 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jarlath Reidy wrote on 11/05/10 23:37: ... I'm wondering if the current form of the file-transfer dialog is up for discussion. I wanted to dismiss this dialog (see attachment). I was fairly certain that the red X to the right would abort the copy

Re: [Ayatana] Sound Menu

2010-06-16 Thread Tyler Brainerd
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tyler Brainerd wrote on 12/05/10 02:48: Looking at the mockups for the new SoundMenu design https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu, which looks great, my one concern

Re: [Ayatana] dx-m-indicator-sound feedback

2010-06-16 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 16:48, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: It's just a menu, it's not reinventing the audio system. ..yet it's close to reinventing the audio backend's interface to the technically unaware user. The menu should give easiest access to the volume of the primary

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

2010-06-16 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 17:04, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: To avoid that kind of confusion, a progress window -- a window that embodies a task the computer is completing, and closes itself when done - -- should not have a close button in its title bar at all. thank you.

Re: [Ayatana] File transfer dialog behaviour

2010-06-16 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 00:29, Frederik Nnaji frederik.nn...@gmail.comwrote: In 2008 I wrote a specification for Nautilus's progress window. http://live.gnome.org/Nautilus/ProgressWindow nce! you did that in '08 already? the item's name shouldn't be in the title? why is that? sorry

Re: [Ayatana] dx-m-indicator-sound feedback

2010-06-16 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 01:36, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: The panel is meant to be detached from the rest of the desktop. That means it looks the same on all workspaces no matter what window is currently focused. Workspaces were not part of my point, not relevant to my

Re: [Ayatana] VPN

2010-06-16 Thread Frederik Nnaji
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:08, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 15/06/10 07:37, Philipp Wendler wrote: So I definitely would like to have an easy way to start a VPN connection (directly in the indicator). It is like this even on my cellphone, which has very limited screen space.

Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

2010-06-16 Thread David Hamm
That picture makes me think of osx. I like what your sayiin tho. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/transient-windows into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-16 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/transient-windows into lp:indicator-appmenu has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-appmenu/transient-windows/+merge/27669 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/ubuntu-no-proxy-support into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-16 Thread Cody Russell
Cody Russell has proposed merging lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/ubuntu-no-proxy-support into lp:appmenu-gtk. Requested reviews: Canonical Desktop Experience Team (canonical-dx-team) -- https://code.launchpad.net/~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/ubuntu-no-proxy-support/+merge/27772 Your team ayatana-commits

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/application-fallback into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-16 Thread Ted Gould
Ted Gould has proposed merging lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/application-fallback into lp:indicator-appmenu. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) Doesn't do anything super useful. But it puts blank menus in for application fallback and desktop fallback.